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Then you are not a liberal.

The very IDEA of liberalism is in opposition to the established order.

If you fancy yourself a liberal, I challenge you to tell us in what ways you are anti-establishment - including in what ways biden has let you down.
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm

Then you are not a liberal.

The very IDEA of liberalism is in opposition to the established order.

If you fancy yourself a liberal, I challenge you to tell us in what ways you are anti-establishment - including in what ways biden has let you down.

Classical liberals were anti establishment.. 
Today's liberals are idiots.

 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm

Then you are not a liberal.

The very IDEA of liberalism is in opposition to the established order.

If you fancy yourself a liberal, I challenge you to tell us in what ways you are anti-establishment - including in what ways biden has let you down.

so liberal = anarchist?

SJConspirator » 17 Jun 2021, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 10:37 pm

so liberal = anarchist?

Not at all. Anarchists are anti-government. Liberals are pissed at the establishment. If they SUPPORT the establishment, they are not liberals. They are conservatives, aren't they.

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 11:26 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 11:26 pm

Not at all. Anarchists are anti-government. Liberals are pissed at the establishment. If they SUPPORT the establishment, they are not liberals. They are conservatives, aren't they.

If one supports the establishment, they are conservative?  I don’t know..  Tim Mcviegh probably identified as a conservative, and he blew up a federal building, not exactly supporting the establishment

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm

Then you are not a liberal.

The very IDEA of liberalism is in opposition to the established order.

If you fancy yourself a liberal, I challenge you to tell us in what ways you are anti-establishment - including in what ways biden has let you down.

I'm a progressive Democrat; all of this "liberal" vs "conservative" **** is just a distraction.

We need fair graduated marginal taxation that starts at the top, an end to all wars (including the Drug War on people & a Public Health Option for all.

supraTruth » 18 Jun 2021, 3:37 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 3:37 am

I'm a progressive Democrat; all of this "liberal" vs "conservative" **** is just a distraction.

We need fair graduated marginal taxation that starts at the top, an end to all wars (including the Drug War on people & a Public Health Option for all.

...the 'liberal' [retard code for 'democrat'] vs. 'conservative' [retard code for 'republican'] dichotomy is a monstrously stooooooooooooooooooopid construct that only brain-laundered republicrat-level idiots use...

...i challenge the need for 'graduated marginal taxation' or a 'public health option' ...i contend an honest, egalitarian system of money issuance will LARGELY eliminate the need for either...

 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm

Then you are not a liberal.

The very IDEA of liberalism is in opposition to the established order.

If you fancy yourself a liberal, I challenge you to tell us in what ways you are anti-establishment - including in what ways biden has let you down.

Perhaps you could give some examples of what you are calling 'establishes order'?

Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 9:44 pm

   you are anti-establishment

Establishment means, traditional USA. Because Establishment means, a term which I.D.'s a group or sect that usually controls a society or community or polity or etc...therefore Traditional USA means, old racist White men get to live like Kings and all other Americans get to eat the crumbs from their table.  Period.

I am anti-Establishment, and proud of it thanks to Biden. He's come in, and tried to take people like himself [old, racist, White men] out of the omnipotent equation called the future America
 
 
 

I am anti-establishment of organized doubt where everyone agrees to disagree that biology is the source of eternal separation of each lifetime that ever occupies space in this universal moment from now on as "established genetically so far.".

there is no working theories or theologies ever created to govern outcomes with symbolism over substance philosophies and mind over matter psychology to removing anyone defending their time rather than their state of mind nurtured after birth that are as accurate as my first paragraph.

Gee end of time never harming a living thing except all the methods of denying life in plain sight by the lifetimes timed apart now.

I really like your talking point Cannonpointer. hell of a topic isn't it.

Blutarski » 18 Jun 2021, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 9:29 am

[[[THE ESTABLISHMENT]]] = [[[GLOBALIST ELITE SOCIAL ENGINEERS]]]

stop taking sides of leaderships and fellowships working to sustain doubt until extinction of this species. the philosophical long game is severely shortened by reminding everyone participating in making believe biology isn't the kinetic source of eternal separating lifetimes here so far from now on, corruption will not be fixed until extinction removes the species doing it ancestrally to that point self inflicted saving contextual possibilities biology never did keep things eternally separated now.

Isn't any more complicated than ^^^^^^^^ this.
Oh! I liked this thread so much I pinned it.

The "establishment" has turned into Corporatism....its what the gop has been attempting for decades


and how do they get their voters to vote for it?


RACISM....aka....the gops "southern strategy"

Time to wake up Trailer Trash...you're being Used

The republicans are only anti establishment when they are not running the establishment. They are only anti government power when they are not running the government. It's pretty easy to see when you watch their talking points. It's like saying you are burning books and cancel culturing things then trying to cancel culture free and fair elections with election fraud lies.

The real question cannon is what do you consider establishment.

I only ask what you consider establishment because the left wing seems to be bucking the system when it come to community policing. And I consider you an establishment republican standing up for the old way of doing business.

SJConspirator » 17 Jun 2021, 11:33 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jun 2021, 11:33 pm

If one supports the establishment, they are conservative?  I don’t know..  Tim Mcviegh probably identified as a conservative, and he blew up a federal building, not exactly supporting the establishment

Being a radical is not antithetical to being a liberal or a conservative.

The weather underground were liberal.

Benson13 » 18 Jun 2021, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 10:24 am

The "establishment" has turned into Corporatism....its what the gop has been attempting for decades


and how do they get their voters to vote for it?


RACISM....aka....the gops "southern strategy"

Time to wake up Trailer Trash...you're being Used

the establishment of everyone agreeing to never accept biology as source of origin to each reproduction being eternally separated now covers every reality established since dawn of civilization socially corrupting each ancestor added so far.

AnnoyedLiberall » 18 Jun 2021, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 9:00 am

Perhaps you could give some examples of what you are calling 'establishes order'?

It currently goes by the name biden administration.

Abatjour » 18 Jun 2021, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 9:04 am

Establishment means, traditional USA. Because Establishment means, a term which I.D.'s a group or sect that usually controls a society or community or polity or etc...therefore Traditional USA means, old racist White men get to live like Kings and all other Americans get to eat the crumbs from their table.  Period.

I am anti-Establishment, and proud of it thanks to Biden. He's come in, and tried to take people like himself [old, racist, White men] out of the omnipotent equation called the future America
 

Biden is the establishment, retard.

What has he done to reset our relationship with israel? You're good with how Palestinians are being treated on your tax dollars, weasel? You're good with foreign policy being dictated by PNAC and AIPAC, as always?

Even MSN dogs out biden for his terrorism in syria, you weak livered simp.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bi ... r-BB1e4rpr

Keep sucking that tired old cock and calling yourself a liberal.

Cannonpointer » 18 Jun 2021, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2021, 11:07 am

Biden is the establishment, retard.

What has he done to reset our relationship with israel? You're good with how Palestinians are being treated on your tax dollars, weasel? You're good with foreign policy being dictated by PNAC and AIPAC, as always?

Even MSN dogs out biden for his terrorism in syria, you weak livered simp.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bi ... r-BB1e4rpr

Keep sucking that tired old cock and calling yourself a liberal.

Trump is a retarded tired old redneck establishment guy. He uses tax cuts to drive the economy with top down economics. You're a establishment republican.