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By Cannonpointer
17 Jun 2021 9:44 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
21 Jun 2021 1:20 am
Here's another example of the fatal Caucasian "altruism" gene.FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:14 am » wrote: ↑ I don't really know, dude.
Yeah they could.
They could pretend that opposition to such programs is japanese supremacy.
I can see it.
Cannonpointer is someone whom I introduced "race realism" theory to. You already know the theory so I won't go over it.
Despite accepting its premises, he thinks it is still "wrong" or "unethical" if white people discriminate against blacks in employment, customer service, etc. IOW he still supports "civil rights" which is what led to discrimination against whites in the first place.
"Civil rights" has always been a guise to attack whites but people still think the end goal was "color blind" standards LOL.
Then you have whites like Neo who think "race doesn't matter" and naively thinks if we adopted "race blind" ideology everyone will sing kumbaya around a campfire.
I SURMISE this is a problem with biological roots. Jews seem to know this and have exploited it incredibly/criminally well.
21 Jun 2021 1:24 am
Well... biological?Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 1:20 am » wrote: ↑ Here's another example of the fatal Caucasian "altruism" gene.
Cannonpointer is someone whom I introduced "race realism" theory to. You already know the theory so I won't go over it.
Despite accepting its premises, he thinks it is still "wrong" or "unethical" if white people discriminate against blacks in employment, customer service, etc. IOW he still supports "civil rights" which is what led to discrimination against whites in the first place.
"Civil rights" has always been a guise to attack whites but people still think the end goal was "color blind" standards LOL.
Then you have whites like Neo who think "race doesn't matter" and naively thinks if we adopted "race blind" ideology everyone will sing kumbaya around a campfire.
I SURMISE this is a problem with biological roots. Jews seem to know this and have exploited it incredibly/criminally well.
Eh I doubt that.
We was lychin people n sheet.
I get that this is always a huge hump to overcome. But I think you have nature working with you...not against you.
You have Jews working against you.
That's all.
if you can make someone anti semitic, the rest follows.
Sooooo....just talk about Palestine and ****.
21 Jun 2021 1:29 am
If it's not biological, then it must be some environmental effect. I do NOT believe propaganda alone is powerful enough to convince people to turn against themselves. Yes there are always retarded people who will believe what the media tells them but that cannot explain everything.FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:24 am » wrote: ↑ Well... biological?
Eh I doubt that.
We was lychin people n sheet.
I get that this is always a huge hump to overcome. But I think you have nature working with you...not against you.
You have Jews working against you.
That's all.
It's probably the estrogen-mimicking plastics, fluoride in water, processed food, vaccines, and thousands of other toxins that mess up people's brains and encourage "feminine" traits like being cucks. I do not know.
We can come up with many theories and see which ones seem to be most consistent with "why people are supporting their own destruction." That would require thousands of hours of careful research and obviously no university is going to fund you - you'll have to be independently wealthy (and scientifically/statistically oriented enough) to venture out yourself into the realm of forbidden knowledge.
21 Jun 2021 1:33 am
I get what yr saying.Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 1:29 am » wrote: ↑ If it's not biological, then it must be some environmental effect. I do NOT believe propaganda alone is powerful enough to convince people to turn against themselves. Yes there are always retarded people who will believe what the media tells them but that cannot explain everything.
It's probably the estrogen-mimicking plastics, fluoride in water, processed food, vaccines, and thousands of other toxins that mess up people's brains and encourage "feminine" traits like being cucks. I do not know.
We can come up with many theories and see which ones seem to be most consistent with "why people are supporting their own destruction." That would require thousands of hours of careful research and obviously no university is going to fund you - you'll have to be independently wealthy (and scientifically/statistically oriented enough) to venture out yourself into the realm of forbidden knowledge.
But look dude. We already kinda have all the data we need with the trump election, for example.
You don't think trump was a direct result of white people kinda getting sick of being altruistic?
Even among the brainwashed whites...you can see as well as I do they they are triggered on certain subjects. Because they hav to be...right? They have to be.
21 Jun 2021 1:40 am
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... ed-voters/FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:33 am » wrote: ↑ I get what yr saying.
But look dude. We already kinda have all the data we need with the trump election, for example.
You don't think trump was a direct result of white people kinda getting sick of being altruistic?
Even among the brainwashed whites...you can see as well as I do they they are triggered on certain subjects. Because they hav to be...right? They have to be.
Whites went 54-39 for Trump. That's a slim majority.
Now look at Negroids/Hispanics...it's not even close.
The Hispanics who voted for Trump probably did so because they wanted "less competition" from foreign illegals and don't GAF about race.
21 Jun 2021 1:42 am
Trump didn't keep his promises did he?Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 1:40 am » wrote: ↑ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... ed-voters/
Whites went 54-39 for Trump. That's a slim majority.
Now look at Negroids/Hispanics...it's not even close.
Whites liked what he said more than what he did.
White people are ready, bro. They just need a leader.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PEoTpeTTgwgW/
21 Jun 2021 1:44 am
I understand. But this was back during the 2016 election prior to all the "broken promises" (which I knew was going to happen since Trump throughout his career was a billionaire con artist - he was a globalist posing as a populist).FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:42 am » wrote: ↑ Trump didn't keep his promises did he?
Whites liked what he said more than what he did.
White people are ready, bro. They just need a leader.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PEoTpeTTgwgW/
21 Jun 2021 1:49 am
Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 1:44 am » wrote: ↑ I understand. But this was back during the 2016 election prior to all the "broken promises" (which I knew was going to happen since Trump throughout his career was a billionaire con artist - he was a globalist posing as a populist).
He fooled me for a year or so.
I mean...the fact he was an asshole made his promises plausible.
But one thing you can say in the aftermath is this: white people are tired of ****.
21 Jun 2021 2:03 am
That's one of the tricks of con men these days...they "talk harshly" which gives you the impression they're "honest" but they're still full of **** lol.FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:49 am » wrote: ↑ He fooled me for a year or so.
I mean...the fact he was an asshole made his promises plausible.
But one thing you can say in the aftermath is this: white people are tired of ****.
I'm actually dealing with this right now...basically I spoke with some owners looking to sell their bzness and they all gave me the "I'm a honest, brutal, straightforward guy" impression...then I ask for 2 years of tax returns (incl. 2020) and they gave me some random BS about how they "can't show me" how much they reported to the IRS and I should just believe what they put down on some profit/loss sheet.
Basically unless a politician gets hung by his or her entrails for broken promises, I just assume what they say is a lie.
21 Jun 2021 2:07 am
Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 2:03 am » wrote: ↑ That's one of the tricks of con men these days...they "talk harshly" which gives you the impression they're "honest" but they're still full of **** lol.
I'm actually dealing with this right now...basically I spoke with some owners looking to sell their bzness and they all gave me the "I'm a honest, brutal, straightforward guy" impression...then I ask for 2 years of tax returns (incl. 2020) and they gave me some random BS about how they "can't show me" how much they reported to the IRS and I should just believe what they put down on some profit/loss sheet.
Basically unless a politician gets hung by his or her entrails for broken promises, I just assume what they say is a lie.
Yeah ok.
I personally use a heuristic like this: how many **** jews do you talk to?
Cause again...you wanna talk history...Bismark was real and he didn't give a **** about jews.
21 Jun 2021 2:45 am
I was in Santa Cruz the day he was kilt. I was 8 years old. My old man worked oil field, and that's where we were housed. It was just a little bitty town with mostly dirt roads and an army garrison. Now, it's the largest city in Bolivia, I believe.SJConspirator » 20 Jun 2021, 10:50 pm » wrote: ↑ He was in charge of the Cuban central bank for awhile. What a position! He could have controlled the money supply of a beautiful tropical paradise, sipping pina colodas and banging hot Cuban bitches every weekend.
Instead, Che was like “ Aw hell with this pampered ****. Im’a go back to the jungle and be a revolutionary again and get myself killed by a traitor who snitches my location to the CIA.”
I asked my mom if there were really guerillas in the hills fighting the soldiers, and she said yes. I asked who gave the guerillas guns - she said, "People who agree with them." Of course, she could not know that to me, the word guerilla and the word gorilla were the same word. It really **** with me - gave me serious trust issues.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 2:53 am
Polar1ty » 20 Jun 2021, 11:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Your assumptions are so wrong I don't even know where to begin.
Gridlock is by design. The trick is that Nancy Pelosi/McConnell KNOW THIS AND ARE DUTIFULLY PLAYING THEIR roles while pretending to 'be against each other.' They are not. THEY ARE COLLUDING.
I don't know why you think they "cannot" build a wall. THEY DO NOT WANT A WALL. They want to drive wages down by importing illegal immigrants and smelly Indian curry *** H1Bs.
They do not want "high speed rail." They DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT STUFF.
You seriously think the Dimocraps and Repukes (and Jews) care about building high speed rail in America? ROFL
Here is their true agenda:
The goal is to make your children retarded (retarded government schools that teach "whitey bad" instead of actual useful skills, fluoride in your water, estrogen contamination via plastic, vaccines, food pyramid, RoundUp in your food) and siphon any income the bottom 80% make via high insurance premiums, credit card fees, high cost of living (rent or mortgages) and other parasitic features of the system.
They do not want you to "retire." They want you to be a slave to the system.
The oligarchs' plan is to bleed the country dry while transferring the production/IP to other countries.
You, a lowly worker peon/worker bee, are just collateral damage in the process. They DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU.
Get this through your head and everything makes sense.
Q: "Polarity, how do you know this?"
A: Um...you just look at their actions since the 1970s.
ACTIONS, NOT WORDS. Stop giving a **** about what they say/promise and look @ what they HAVE BEEN DOING.
Higher fees, higher taxes, higher cost of living, **** "food" (industrial waste byproducts masquerading as food), pill pushers masquerading as doctors, etc. This is by design and not an "accident."
**** bingo. All laid out, plain and clear.
The other error people make is buying into the "government is stupid" meme so popular with conjobs.
If they're so stupid, why is their dick in your ***? Who's the stupid one in this picture?
There are no oopsie doopsies. There are intended outcomes - period. The drug war, for example, is not "accidentally" having the effect of enabling pushers and spreading addiction. That is the INTENDED outcome. This was made crystal clear - if drug use moving from the dregs of society to college campuses to high schools to junior highs over a couple of decades - abundantly clear, I say, when the STATE ITSELF started giving adderol to elementary school kids because little kids don't have the wherewithal to buy their own drugs, so the state needed to buy the drugs for them.
Turning on the MSM is sitting pretty for brainwashing.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 2:54 am
SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 12:06 am » wrote: ↑ none of what you said disproved or even refuted any of my points.
nice ad Homs, though
I disagree on both counts. What he said did indeed stand in opposition to your narrative explaining "why" - and where were these ad homs?
Are you referring to his references to how THEY view US? You took that as an attack on YOU?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 2:58 am
Again, that "you" is a collective you. He's in that collective. I'm in that collective.
And I don't feel ad hommed.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 3:01 am
I like you a lot as a poster - def in my top five. But you're just full of crap on this one.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 3:03 am
FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 12:28 am » wrote: ↑ SJ is a smart guy. I think it is a civic duty to bully him into the correct worldview.
I concur - no matter how thin skinned he appears, he cares about reality.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 3:08 am
Taking umbrage at being rightly described as their disposable peon contradicts your stated belief that they are your overlords and are extorting you while depriving you of services.SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 12:38 am » wrote: ↑ how did I contradict myself? Nothing in my writing exonerates billionaires or politicians, totally the contrary. I think you somehow missed my point.
If you really believe the billionaires are **** you, why would you take umbrage at being reminded that you - meaning you and I and he - are their **** toy?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 3:09 am
What if you re-read that, but use "one" where he uses "you." Would that help you get his point and stop falsely accusing him of name calling?SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 12:42 am » wrote: ↑I enjoy the verbal sparring, but the name calling bores me, sorry. Have at it if you must, your content is otherwise usually quite good.Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 12:36 am » wrote: ↑ How to tell if you are a pawn/tool for the oligarchs 101:
1 - you pay taxes instead of doing 1031 RE transactions/defer taxes via business losses/use "charitable foundations"/borrow against equity/etc.
2 - you are not retired/you are working for someone else as an employee and making < $1M/yr (which implies you are disposable)
3 - you vote for candidates/think candidates will "change the system and help the country"
4 - you unwittingly spread propaganda that benefits (((CERTAIN PEOPLE)))
I probably missed 2-3 points but that about summarizes 80% of the population.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jun 2021 3:10 am
Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 2:53 am » wrote: ↑ **** bingo. All laid out, plain and clear.
The other error people make is buying into the "government is stupid" meme so popular with conjobs.
If they're so stupid, why is their dick in your ***? Who's the stupid one in this picture?
There are no oopsie doopsies. There are intended outcomes - period. The drug war, for example, is not "accidentally" having the effect of enabling pushers and spreading addiction. That is the INTENDED outcome. This was made crystal clear - if drug use moving from the dregs of society to college campuses to high schools to junior highs over a couple of decades - abundantly clear, I say, when the STATE ITSELF started giving adderol to elementary school kids because little kids don't have the wherewithal to buy their own drugs, so the state needed to buy the drugs for them.
Turning on the MSM is sitting pretty for brainwashing.
I don't understand how parents can be retarded enough to DRUG THEIR OWN KIDS. How does this happen?
21 Jun 2021 3:14 am
My only disagreement is that this argument is contrary to the OP. It certainly EXPANDS it - but I hardly feel refuted by it, or feel any need to defend against it. Indeed, it has my hearty and unmitigated agreement.Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 12:50 am » wrote: ↑ My counterargument to your first point is that the opinion of "the people" is irrelevant. Even if 90% of people wanted infrastructure projects like desalination plants or reservoirs that feed into the Colorado River basin or a Mexico border wall or breaking up the banks it doesn't matter unless they all march on Washington D.C. or Wall Street with weapons...THEN it might matter, but good luck getting that many people to attend - not to mention the (((media))) would immediately decry these attendees as "racists" or "white supremacists" or "terrorists" or whatever and the retarded people will believe what the (((media))) says.
Human nature necessitates disagreement over how they think society should be structured. We have fascists, anarchists, libertarians, socialists, liberals, conservatives, primitivists, etc. debating what policies should be implemented. These disagreements have always existed/will always exist.
Yet there were politicians in the past (just look at Otto v Bismarck back in 1890) who ruled with an iron fist and managed to get their agenda passed as long as they were skilled and powerful enough. They didn't need "the people's opinions." They simply knew how to navigate the system and force the wealthy parasites to go along with their plan. Xi Jinping is also a master at this which is why the Chinese billionaires are scrambling to escape the country - the billionaires want to rule the countries where they are staying and not BE RULED.
The "people's opinions" don't matter unless people miss 2 weeks of meals/go hungry and can't feed their children or something (The oligarchs already have cheap processed foods like chips/crackers/bread/ramen noodles/other trash "food" as their backup plan so good luck with that as well, LOL).
This is getting way off topic but my point throughout this thread is very simple:
Contrary to Cannon's argument that "liberals need to be anti-establishment," modern liberalism amounts to a managed system with all the exterior functions and architecture of a republican system of governance. In practice it serves a small clique of oligarchs whose loyalties do not lie with "the nation," "the people," or anything of that sort. Since these oligarchs are the ones who have the most political sway, it makes sense that they get to decide what happens with the country, and you (an ordinary citizen) have no actual say other than casting a vote for a mouthpiece at the ballot box every [X] years or writing some anti-oligarch posts on LF.net/some online forum.
What the actual liberals themselves (or people claiming to be "liberals" - it makes not ONE WHIT OF DIFFERENCE in the end as they will all meet the same fate) say or do or claim they support is largely irrelevant.
Caveat - except the 90%.
10 could do it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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