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Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 3:10 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:10 am

I don't understand how parents can be retarded enough to DRUG THEIR OWN KIDS. How does this happen?

lazy parenting. ..a pill is easier.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 12:56 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 12:56 am

I don’t pretend like I have any say, I don’t have power enough to make any changes, except in my own limited circle of friends and family and self.

but you don’t have to rub my face in it, sheesh

I rather saw it as needful.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 12:58 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 12:58 am

Times change.  These are very Democratic times, and popular support for something can do miracles.  It’s not like 100 years ago where the empower of Japan was considered a literal god on earth and everybody just did his will.

Where has popular support gotten marijuana? Even with SOME of the states finally legalizing, the feds continue to make it illegal - to the point that putting pot money in the bank is a RICO offense.
 

Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 1:00 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 1:00 am

Like I said, I don't mince words. There's always Chicken Soup 4 the Soul available.

I don't even know why I am critiquing you to be honest, Cannon's the one who started with a false assumption ("liberals are anti-establishment.")

They are. By definition. Liberals are always questioning the status quo - and the establishment is always serving it

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 1:00 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 1:00 am

I don’t know either, when me and you agree on 90% of issues...

Perhaps because this falls in the 10%?

Like you and me, Po1arity doesn't go along and get along, just because he likes you. He argues his truth - same as you.

FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 1:01 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 1:01 am

Literally no. 

Their mummies managed to preserve DNA. 

We have sampled it. 

Guess the results, bro?

And now, we venture into forbidden archaeology.

If we are not careful, a thread about liberals being anti-establishment might teeter into the real motives for the iraq invasion.
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 3:20 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:20 am

They are. By definition. Liberals are always questioning the status quo - and the establishment is always serving it

How many liberals (or people who claim they are liberals) follow that definition? Maybe like 2%?

Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 3:10 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:10 am

I don't understand how parents can be retarded enough to DRUG THEIR OWN KIDS. How does this happen?

Hypnosis through distraction, coupled with bowing to false authority.

As humans, we have an axis. If they can get us off our axis, they can catch us in mind traps. Once lured into tautologies, humans are easy prey. Black becomes white and up becomes down. It takes character to resist this hypnosis, and most people don't have that in abundance.

The serpent understands and capitalizes on the frailty of the mammal.
 

Polar1ty » 21 Jun 2021, 3:28 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:28 am

How many liberals (or people who claim they are liberals) follow that definition? Maybe like 2%?

You, yourself, have already established that these people are not and never were liberals.

The liberal impulse is change and the conservative impulse is maintenance of the status quo, in political terms. If you are happy with the status quo, welcome to political conservatism.

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 3:23 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:23 am

And now, we venture into forbidden archaeology.

If we are not careful, a thread about liberals being anti-establishment might teeter into the real motives for the iraq invasion.

'project for a new american century', lol

 

...further proof that arguing about subjective political THEORY is a futile exercise....

....an honest understanding of objective monetary REALITY is MUCH MUCH more functional/important and directs you to your true 'e$tabli$hment' ruler$...

...anyone arguing about puppets pelosi, trump, and every other republicrat puppet politician is doing what 'the establi$hment' has planned... 
 
 

SJConspirator » 20 Jun 2021, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2021, 8:14 pm

I will go to an extreme and take the very polar opposite position from you.  ALL liberal positions REQUIRE government to implement, while all conservative positions are in opposition to organized government.

 
still waiting for you to explain the difference between liberal and anarchist.
 

Contextual extremes are role playing scenarios while still occupying space with one ancestral point of displacement. Oops, your socially induced insanity is showing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyHPKlbkUZI

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 3:08 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:08 am

Taking umbrage at being rightly described as their disposable peon contradicts your stated belief that they are your overlords and are extorting you while depriving you of services.

If you really believe the billionaires are **** you, why would you take umbrage at being reminded that you - meaning you and I and he - are their **** toy?

The post I took umbrage with started “ your assumptions are so wrong I don’t know where to begin “ followed by name calling, **** testing, and no factual rebuttal  to any of my points.  That’s the fact, spin it as you like.

to be clear on another point, peons and peasants are simply those making less than $60k annual in this country.  Tools and pawns are different.  They are more like Sean Hannity.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 9:45 am

The post I took umbrage with started “ your assumptions are so wrong I don’t know where to begin “ followed by name calling, **** testing, and no factual rebuttal  to any of my points.  That’s the fact, spin it as you like.

to be clear on another point, peons and peasants are simply those making less than $60k annual in this country.  Tools and pawns are different.  They are more like Sean Hannity.

Sean Hannity has a national audience, you get to post on a message board doing the same thing Hannity does for big time money. the sport of creating a royal we take charge, loyal us collect taxes, obedient they, them, and those people paying to be misled ancestrally here so far.

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 3:17 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:17 am

Where has popular support gotten marijuana? Even with SOME of the states finally legalizing, the feds continue to make it illegal - to the point that putting pot money in the bank is a RICO offense.

Now THIS is a good rebuttal... it’s anecdotal, but shows a good example that counters my point.  

Popular support for marijuana leads to a lot of people smoking it, but not legalizing it.  This is because the repeal of drug prohibition would leave many, many people without a job.  Many functions in the justice system would be decimated.. how many less prison guards would be needed, less public defenders, judges, cops, prosecutors, court clerks, wardens, not to mention the contractors who supply the prisons with food, blankets, clothes, etc..

Locking up ppl is big business.  There is a good chunk of the economy riding on it.  Legalization would even harm the drug dealers as it would become much less profitable if it were not black market stuff.  So you have wide support, but you also have this massive invisible opposition that is powerful.
 

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am

Now THIS is a good rebuttal... it’s anecdotal, but shows a good example that counters my point.  

Popular support for marijuana leads to a lot of people smoking it, but not legalizing it.  This is because the repeal of drug prohibition would leave many, many people without a job.  Many functions in the justice system would be decimated.. how many less prison guards would be needed, less public defenders, judges, cops, prosecutors, court clerks, wardens, not to mention the contractors who supply the prisons with food, blankets, clothes, etc..

Locking up ppl is big business.  There is a good chunk of the economy riding on it.  Legalization would even harm the drug dealers as it would become much less profitable if it were not black market stuff.  So you have wide support, but you also have this massive invisible opposition that is powerful.
 

you projecting yourself as the advanced intellectual is all self induced illusion to justify your brain minding other peoples' interpretation of who you are working the debate circuit in cyberspace.

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 2:58 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 2:58 am

Again, that "you" is a collective you. He's in that collective. I'm in that collective.

And I don't feel ad hommed.

This reminds me of The Peepee dilemma.  His constant harping on the same issue, money creation, is tiresome even though it does address a serious problem.  It’s like “yeh, you have a point, but there are other things going on too.”  He’s a one note wonder.

So it is with the calling everybody a pissant peon peasant tool of the oligarchs.  It is true to some degree,  it there is more to life and it’s depressing to dwell on it so much.

I don’t identify as a victim or a pawn.  I have more freedom and opportunity than most people have had throughout human history, I can travel freely and enter into contracts with people, I can LEAVE this country if I really wanted to.  I have access to indoor plumbing, electricity, air conditioning, and entertainment.  The plight of the modern white man, a popular meme on this board is... overblown.
 

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am

This reminds me of The Peepee dilemma.  His constant harping on the same issue, money creation, is tiresome even though it does address a serious dilemma.  It’s like “yeh, you have a point, but there are other things going on too.”  He’s a one note wonder.

So it is with the calling everybody a pissant peon peasant tool of the oligarchs.  It is true to some degree,  it there is more to life and it’s depressing to dwell on it so much.

I don’t identify as a victim or a pawn.  I have more freedom and opportunity than most people have had throughout human history, I can travel freely and enter into contracts with people, I can LEAVE this country if I really wanted to.  I have access to indoor plumbing, electricity, air conditioning, and entertainment.  The plight of the modern white man, a popular meme on this board is... overblown.

You are one degree of separation. now circle jerk your way out of living eternally separated as a biological displacement now here as one of a kind never existed prior to conceived, never same form since conception, won't ever be duplicated again.

hell of a 3 dimensional dilemma you intellectually defined yourself as in character supporting type casting people by context, not ancestral position ratio of ever changing people alive so far.

omh » 21 Jun 2021, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:19 am

You are one degree of separation. now circle jerk your way out of living eternally separated as a biological displacement now here as one of a kind never existed prior to conceived, never same form since conception, won't ever be duplicated again.

hell of a 3 dimensional dilemma you intellectually defined yourself as in character supporting type casting people by context, not ancestral position ratio of ever changing people alive so far.

OMH of you ever learn proper syntax of sentence structure, placing noun-verb-pro noun in the right places, I will respond to you.

IOW, learn English son.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:27 am

OMH of you ever learn proper syntax of sentence structure, placing noun-verb-pro noun in the right places, I will respond to you.

IOW, learn English son.

What does proper grammar bring to a conversation? Separate single talking points out of the collective whole. categorize them by subjectivity and objectivity to controlling outcomes of everyone left living from now on. that is practiced in every tongue, alphabet, and form of mathematics.

You want to try that again? You just destroyed your reality another degree of self deception caught in action. when intellectuals fire up my genetic anger, I navigate between syllables directing social outcomes clearer every time. Defeat the methodologies behind the ideologies brought to fruition through laws that rule social behavior cradle to grave while a life cycle is timed apart conceived to decomposed not just born to dead.