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SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am

Now THIS is a good rebuttal... it’s anecdotal, but shows a good example that counters my point.  

Popular support for marijuana leads to a lot of people smoking it, but not legalizing it.  This is because the repeal of drug prohibition would leave many, many people without a job.  Many functions in the justice system would be decimated.. how many less prison guards would be needed, less public defenders, judges, cops, prosecutors, court clerks, wardens, not to mention the contractors who supply the prisons with food, blankets, clothes, etc..

Locking up ppl is big business.  There is a good chunk of the economy riding on it.  Legalization would even harm the drug dealers as it would become much less profitable if it were not black market stuff.  So you have wide support, but you also have this massive invisible opposition that is powerful.

...'legalizing' is a dumbf@ck republicrat term... decent knowledgeable demand REPEAL of any/all 'laws' interfering with the natural inalienable individual rights of self-medication, plant cultivation, etc...

...as to drug pigs losing their jobs, you republicrats need only to commission some vandals to break windows and your drug pigs can get jobs as glaziers, bidumptard...   

[republicrats are slow to recognize that society would be MUCH better off with the vandals and glaziers than the drug pigs and the broken victims of the drug pigs..]    
 
 

peepee » 21 Jun 2021, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:39 am

...'legalizing' is a dumbf@ck republicrat term... decent knowledgeable demand REPEAL of any/all 'laws' interfering with the natural inalienable individual rights of self-medication, plant cultivation, etc...

...as to drug pigs losing their jobs, you republicrats need only to commission some vandals to break windows and your drug pigs can get jobs as glaziers, bidumptard...   

[republicrats are slow to recognize that society would be MUCH better off with the vandals and glaziers than the drug pigs and the broken victims of the drug pigs..]    
 
 

you are as incomplete on this topic as you are "currency creation" government revenue, and national debt accumulation from annual budgets projected out 20 years every continuing resolution done 4 times a year.

Get the idea where manifested destiny comes from?

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am

This reminds me of The Peepee dilemma.  His constant harping on the same issue, money creation, is tiresome even though it does address a serious problem.  It’s like “yeh, you have a point, but there are other things going on too.”  He’s a one note wonder.


 

 

...someone has to talk about the most important thing$...you sure as f@ck hardly ever talk about it...using your time to work your hole about subjective political THEORY, trannies, aliens, puppet$ ad nauseam....   

peepee » 21 Jun 2021, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:46 am

:blink:  

...someone has to talk about the most important thing$...you sure as f@ck hardly ever talk about it...using your time to work your hole about subjective political THEORY, trannies, aliens, puppet$ ad nauseam....  ;)  

syllables over substance mentality peepee is called the behavior of obeying hope, faith, charity delivers power, wealth, fame to those selling tomorrow as a destination achieved by a rotating planet while biology eternally separates reproductions timed apart now in its atmosphere.

doing those six assures every next generation will loathe previous generations as much as the time they get mutually evolving now. Vernacular prey to defending a hypothetical state of mind.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am

This reminds me of The Peepee dilemma.  His constant harping on the same issue, money creation, is tiresome even though it does address a serious problem.  It’s like “yeh, you have a point, but there are other things going on too.”  He’s a one note wonder.

So it is with the calling everybody a pissant peon peasant tool of the oligarchs.  It is true to some degree,  it there is more to life and it’s depressing to dwell on it so much.

I don’t identify as a victim or a pawn.  I have more freedom and opportunity than most people have had throughout human history, I can travel freely and enter into contracts with people, I can LEAVE this country if I really wanted to.  I have access to indoor plumbing, electricity, air conditioning, and entertainment.  The plight of the modern white man, a popular meme on this board is... overblown.

There is a pinned thread that presages doom for white people. When you can openly ruminate about killing folks without fear of censure, those folks are next on the chopping block. If that's lost on you, that's lost on you p continue blithely ignoring the drum beat.

As to the rest, I don't think he's going full peepee in his response to you. I think he's appropriately responding to the actual content of your post.

And not for nothin? The iraqis were certainly grateful for THEIR indoor plumbing. While it lasted. When the state breaks, the indoor plumbing stops - and this one shows every sign of being on the skids. The very biggest single indicator of impending state failure is weak and ineffective clowns being appointed - often through sham elections - to top leadership.

 
 

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:01 am

Now THIS is a good rebuttal... it’s anecdotal, but shows a good example that counters my point.  

Popular support for marijuana leads to a lot of people smoking it, but not legalizing it.  This is because the repeal of drug prohibition would leave many, many people without a job.  Many functions in the justice system would be decimated.. how many less prison guards would be needed, less public defenders, judges, cops, prosecutors, court clerks, wardens, not to mention the contractors who supply the prisons with food, blankets, clothes, etc..

Locking up ppl is big business.  There is a good chunk of the economy riding on it.  Legalization would even harm the drug dealers as it would become much less profitable if it were not black market stuff.  So you have wide support, but you also have this massive invisible opposition that is powerful.

Which sustains my argument - and waives your own - that popular support means **** at this point. It'll get you fiery rhetoric, "thwarted" by "gridlock."

Which brings us back to gridlock being a puppet show - which is where you and Po!arity BEGAN the dance I've butted in on.

As an aside, an "economy" that runs on prisons is no economy at all - it's smoke and mirrors. When the music stops, tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, will be without chairs.
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 3:25 pm

There is a pinned thread that prsages doom for white people. When you can openly ruminating about killing folks without fear of censure, those folks are next on the chopping block. If that's lost on you, that's lost on you p continue blithely ignoring the drum beat.

As to the rest, I don't think he's going full peepee in his response to you. I think he's appropriately responding to the actual content of your post.

And not for nothin? The iraqis were certainly grateful for THEIR indoor plumbing. While it lasted. When the state breaks, the indoor plumbing stops - and this one shows every sign of being on the skids. The very biggest single indicator of impending state failure is weak and ineffective clowns being appointed - often through sham elections - to top leadership.

wasnt that person fired for having fantasies of killing white people?

 

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 5:11 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 5:11 pm

wasnt that person fired for having fantasies of killing white people?

no

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:14 am

This reminds me of The Peepee dilemma.  His constant harping on the same issue, money creation, is tiresome even though it does address a serious problem.  It’s like “yeh, you have a point, but there are other things going on too.”  He’s a one note wonder.

So it is with the calling everybody a pissant peon peasant tool of the oligarchs.  It is true to some degree,  it there is more to life and it’s depressing to dwell on it so much.

I don’t identify as a victim or a pawn.  I have more freedom and opportunity than most people have had throughout human history, I can travel freely and enter into contracts with people, I can LEAVE this country if I really wanted to.  I have access to indoor plumbing, electricity, air conditioning, and entertainment.  The plight of the modern white man, a popular meme on this board is... overblown.

A Roman in 409 AD would have said exactly the same thing.

You are focusing on material comforts. Far more important than material comforts is living in an actual society...(this is how humans survive)...and having a reason to stay alive...(being excited about the next star wars movie, when a fat black tranny plays luke skywalker, isnt good enough)

I personally do not think this nihilistic existence is worth very much. And the outrageous number of white people killing themselves right now seem to agree with me

FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 5:22 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 5:22 pm

A Roman in 409 AD would have said exactly the same thing.

You are focusing on material comforts. Far more important than material comforts is living in an actual society...(this is how humans survive)...and having a reason to stay alive...(being excited about the next star wars movie, when a fat black tranny plays luke skywalker, isnt good enough)

I personally do not think this nihilistic existence is worth very much. And the outrageous number of white people killing themselves right now seem to agree with me

good points.  I am trying to focus on the bright side, have gratitude etc... to stave off depression, TBH.  

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 5:28 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 5:28 pm

good points.  I am trying to focus on the bright side, have gratitude etc... to stave off depression, TBH.  

what can be brighter than not riddled with doubt created by people ignoring the self evident reason life is what it became so far.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 5:11 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 5:11 pm

wasnt that person fired for having fantasies of killing white people?

No. She received no censure whatsoever.

Under extreme pressure, the university issued a manifestly false statement claiming the offensive speech did not reflect the university's values.

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 8:41 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 8:41 pm

No. She received no censure whatsoever.

Under extreme pressure, the university issued a manifestly false statement claiming the offensive speech did not reflect the university's values.

If she does kill somebody, and it happened to be on campus where she worked, that university would be liable.  She should be fired and banished from the premises for making death threats.

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 8:51 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 8:51 pm

If she does kill somebody, and it happened to be on campus where she worked, that university would be liable.  She should be fired and banished from the premises for making death threats.

The system is never going to protect white people. 

White people have to somehow figure out how to self organize and protect themselves. 

 

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 8:51 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 8:51 pm

If she does kill somebody, and it happened to be on campus where she worked, that university would be liable.  She should be fired and banished from the premises for making death threats.

That's as far from the issue as toledo is from denver. The issue is that it's now permissible in polite settings to openly ruminate about murdering people for being caucasian. If you don;t see that as a threat to you, fine See it as a threat to the people you love. Because it is one.

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2021, 9:58 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 9:58 pm

That's as far from the issue as toledo is from denver. The issue is that it's now permissible in polite settings to openly ruminate about murdering people for being caucasian. If you don;t see that as a threat to you, fine See it as a threat to the people you love. Because it is one.

Machiavelli once said 'since fear and love cannot exist simultaneously, and we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved'. 

The fake 'right wing' need to stop trying to earn people's love, and start doing what is called actual politics. 
 
 

FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 10:02 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:02 pm

Machiavelli once said 'since fear and love cannot exist simultaneously, and we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved'. 

The fake 'right wing' need to stop trying to earn people's love, and start doing what is called actual politics.

how has the right wing tried to be loved?  By canceling free lunch programs to the kids?

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 10:53 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:53 pm

how has the right wing tried to be loved?  By canceling free lunch programs to the kids?

Lol that never happened.
 

FOS » 21 Jun 2021, 10:57 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 10:57 pm

Lol that never happened.

https://educationopportunitynetwork.org ... -let-them/


let them eat cake right?

SJConspirator » 21 Jun 2021, 11:33 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2021, 11:33 pm

https://educationopportunitynetwork.org ... -let-them/

let them eat cake right?

whispers and rumors dude.

That's politics.