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Look, anti-vaccinators, we all have a right to our opinion about things. What I don't think you understand is that the virus doesn't give a **** about your opinion. If you want to think it's a ll one big hoax so big drug companies can make billions, and whatever other conspiracies, then have it. Whatever. Nonetheless, the virus doesn't give a **** about your conspiracies. The fact is that this guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. 

Can any anti-vaccinator here deny that this guy would still be alive if he was vaccinated?

A man who joked about not getting vaccinated died of the coronavirus a little more than a month later.Stephen Harmon's death was announced by the Hillsong Church founder Brian Houston on Twitter on Thursday.Houston wrote on Instagram that Harmon was in his early 30s, a graduate of Hillsong College, and a "vital part of our church in California.""He was one of the most generous people I know and he had so much in front of him," Houston wrote.Harmon posted an image of himself in the hospital.

 

A California man in his early 30s who derided vaccines on Twitter and Instagram died of COVID-19 (msn.com)

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm

Do you know what a healthy 30 year old's chances are from dying OF CV19 [and nothing else]...?
In our nation of 330 million do you think I could "CHERRY PICK" a story like this daily about ADVERSE VACCINATION REACTION /  DEATH  from our vast data base of information..?
I spent yesterday at a large hospital with a friend.
There were 75 ER Rooms.
I asked about CV19 cases and  ALL the nurses and aides said they were not permitted to talk about that.....  
If I asked the same question 10, 20, 30 or more years ago about a virulent outbreak do you think I would get the same  "1984 BIG BROTHER" response from the workers..?..  
I didn't see any obvious CV19 cases waiting to be seen.
No DOUBLE MASKED EMPLOYEES.....  
At the admissions desk they didn't bother with CV19 screening, either....

 

There were 75 ER Rooms.
I asked about CV19 cases and  ALL the nurses and aides said they were not permitted to talk about that..... 

HPPA passed in 1990.

  

At the admissions desk they didn't bother with CV19 screening, either....

Did they make you take a fresh mask and disinfect your hands?
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:12 pm

I wasn't asking about specific cases you **** idiot.

Doesn't much matter given the circumstance..


 

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm

Do you know what a healthy 30 year old's chances are from dying OF CV19 [and nothing else]...?
In our nation of 330 million do you think I could "CHERRY PICK" a story like this daily about ADVERSE VACCINATION REACTION /  DEATH  from our vast data base of information..?
I spent yesterday at a large hospital with a friend.
There were 75 ER Rooms.
I asked about CV19 cases and  ALL the nurses and aides said they were not permitted to talk about that.....  
If I asked the same question 10, 20, 30 or more years ago about a virulent outbreak do you think I would get the same  "1984 BIG BROTHER" response from the workers..?..  
I didn't see any obvious CV19 cases waiting to be seen.
No DOUBLE MASKED EMPLOYEES.....  
At the admissions desk they didn't bother with CV19 screening, either....

Where did you attend medical school?
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm

Do you know what a healthy 30 year old's chances are from dying OF CV19 [and nothing else]...?
In our nation of 330 million do you think I could "CHERRY PICK" a story like this daily about ADVERSE VACCINATION REACTION /  DEATH  from our vast data base of information..?
I spent yesterday at a large hospital with a friend.
There were 75 ER Rooms.
I asked about CV19 cases and  ALL the nurses and aides said they were not permitted to talk about that.....  
If I asked the same question 10, 20, 30 or more years ago about a virulent outbreak do you think I would get the same  "1984 BIG BROTHER" response from the workers..?..  
I didn't see any obvious CV19 cases waiting to be seen.
No DOUBLE MASKED EMPLOYEES.....  
At the admissions desk they didn't bother with CV19 screening, either....

It's better to be safe about it. This guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. Period. A mask is not a straight jacket. It's a simple thing to wear, and the data shows that it does work. Yes, most of those who are in danger are the elderly. But I would like to think that we should be compassionate enough to protect them by having all of us not get infected. If a young guy is infected, he could infect an elderly person. Sure, the young guy will be fine, but the elderly person that he/she has infected has a greater probability of becoming deathly ill. Why not get vaccinated to protect the elderly?
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:18 pm

BS. I just nailed you for making another  stupid comment, so just "man up" about it.

You're an imbecile...

If the rate is 80%, you have a pretty good bead on who is and isn't.


 

Blackvegetable » 23 Jul 2021, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:27 pm

You should stop asserting, or even implying, ****..

You and your daughter are the reason why I activated the PG. It's always the same ****. Never offer anything. 

Bye.   

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:18 pm

BS. I just nailed you for making another  stupid comment, so just "man up" about it.

He and his daughter are the reasons why I enabled the PG. I want a serious discussion about this. They have nothing to offer. 

Benson13 » 23 Jul 2021, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:34 pm

Gay

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:35 pm

Gay

No, it isn't!  

Benson 14

 
 

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm

It's better to be safe about it. This guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. Period. A mask is not a straight jacket. It's a simple thing to wear, and the data shows that it does work. Yes, most of those who are in danger are the elderly. But I would like to think that we should be compassionate enough to protect them by having all of us not get infected. If a young guy is infected, he could infect an elderly person. Sure, the young guy will be fine, but the elderly person that he/she has infected has a greater probability of becoming deathly ill. Why not get vaccinated to protect the elderly?

I think people should be vaccinated for their own safety, and not for how being unvaccinated would affect anyone else.  We need to acknowledge the fact that the vaccine has not yet had the proper length of time to determine the possible long-term effects of it, as well as others who choose to refuse it because they've already got antibodies from having Covid themselves as millions of people have.   Americans should be able to choose that safety level for themselves and their families and not be forced to do so by government officials, especially those like our brainless VP who told the world she would refuse to take it because Trump was instrumental in developing it.  Should I feel bad for the guy when his choice not to vaccinate cost him his life?  Not really, since he knew the risks when he made his decision not to take it.  Likewise, I don't really feel that bad for someone dying from drug abuse, being shot by a cop when breaking the law, or even dying from alcoholism or cigarette smoking.  I respect the fact that they made their choice freely, and part of that is accepting the negative consequences of their actions. 

And even though I've been vaccinated, I don't need a government nanny to tell me what's good for me. 
 

Zeets2 » 23 Jul 2021, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:55 pm

I think people should be vaccinated for their own safety, and not for how being unvaccinated would affect anyone else.  We need to acknowledge the fact that the vaccine has not yet had the proper length of time to determine the possible long-term effects of it, as well as others who choose to refuse it because they've already got antibodies from having Covid themselves as millions of people have.   Americans should be able to choose that safety level for themselves and their families and not be forced to do so by government officials, especially those like our brainless VP who told the world she would refuse to take it because Trump was instrumental in developing it.  Should I feel bad for the guy when his choice not to vaccinate cost him his life?  Not really, since he knew the risks when he made his decision not to take it.  Likewise, I don't really feel that bad for someone dying from drug abuse, being shot by a cop when breaking the law, or even dying from alcoholism or cigarette smoking.  I respect the fact that they made their choice freely, and part of that is accepting the negative consequences of their actions. 

And even though I've been vaccinated, I don't need a government nanny to tell me what's good for me.

I don't favor the government forcing anyone either. I do favor people making responsible choices. What should we make of a grandson  who refused to get vaccinated , ends up with Covid, and lives with his elderly grandparent? The grandparent gets infected because of it and ends up deathly ill. The grandson knew the risk about the harm he could do his grandparent. I say **** that kid. 

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 2:02 pm

I don't favor the government forcing anyone either. I do favor people making responsible choices. What should we make of a grandson  who refused to get vaccinated , ends up with Covid, and lives with his elderly grandparent? The grandparent gets infected because of it and ends up deathly ill. The grandson knew the risk about the harm he could do his grandparent. I say **** that kid.

I'd prefer to blame the grandparent, who would most likely be in the class of the elderly who are most susceptible to it, especially since there have been a number of serious side effects of the vaccine in children.  I honestly can't blame the kid, particularly because the parents (depending on their kid's age) likely have either become aware of those side effects in children, or they may have been frightened by the stupidity of our whore VP, who unequivocally stated on national TV that she wouldn't trust it and wouldn't take it because Trump helped develop it.  If it were a black family who chooses to believe the words of the first black VP who they probably voted for, it's tough to blame them for their skepticism.
 

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm

It's better to be safe about it. This guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. Period. A mask is not a straight jacket. It's a simple thing to wear, and the data shows that it does work. Yes, most of those who are in danger are the elderly. But I would like to think that we should be compassionate enough to protect them by having all of us not get infected. If a young guy is infected, he could infect an elderly person. Sure, the young guy will be fine, but the elderly person that he/she has infected has a greater probability of becoming deathly ill. Why not get vaccinated to protect the elderly?

Long term side effects are unknown so there is no safe or sorry dichotomy. Covid19 has a 99.95% survival rate for those under 70. Higher if you have no significant comorbidities. It's a choice between taking an experimental drug with unknown long term side effects or risking a 0.05% chance you will die if you get Covid19. That is the truth of the situation. Your take on this situation is becoming as honest as our resident progressives. Unfortunate. 

If the vaccine is safe and effective, why not ensure the elderly are vaccinated? Why am I required to give a **** about your grandma? She never baked me a cookie. 
 

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am

Look, anti-vaccinators, we all have a right to our opinion about things. What I don't think you understand is that the virus doesn't give a **** about your opinion. If you want to think it's a ll one big hoax so big drug companies can make billions, and whatever other conspiracies, then have it. Whatever. Nonetheless, the virus doesn't give a **** about your conspiracies. The fact is that this guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. 

Can any anti-vaccinator here deny that this guy would still be alive if he was vaccinated?

A California man in his early 30s who derided vaccines on Twitter and Instagram died of COVID-19 (msn.com)

Did you hear this story? https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/lead-f ... gers-party

so this violent perverted freak who pretended he wanted to kidnap a politician in order to get some random mentally retarded or schizophrenic dude thrown in prison (or maybe they couldnt even find a mark, i dunno, maybe it was all a hoax just to make people who vote republican seem like terrorists)

So imagine this guy comes up to you with a syringe and says he needs to inject you with something.

"is it a vaccine?" you ask

"not really, it just **** with your mRNA. But we are saying it makes you not die of covid, which very few people die of anyway"

You are going to accept that?

Nobody needs to say that covid is harmless. That is irrelevant. all decisions are a cost benefit analysis. MY position is quite simply that i would rather take my chances with COVID than to let this evil, incompetent, perverted government inject me with anything.

Even if I die of COVID, i still feel that way.

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am

A California man in his early 30s who derided vaccines on Twitter and Instagram died of COVID-19 (msn.com)
 

Jesus-freaks!!!!
."He also posted memes about how people trusted Dr. Anthony Fauci, over the Bible. "When you can't trust the Bible cause it was written by man, but you trust the CDC/Fauci guidelines cause they were written by a man. Makes total sense."

RollingRock » 23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 1:16 pm

Where did you attend medical school?
 

2 types of information create expert opinions on how to govern people to seek goals of better tomorrows than ancestrally delivered results here today.

Theoretical and theological as both are incomplete making both sides always inaccurate of the whole story. But never fear humanity created academic experts training ancestors cradle to grave to never doubt contextual truths people rather believe anything is possible than face what actual life does in plain sight as one of a kind mutually evolving here so far.

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am

Look, anti-vaccinators, we all have a right to our opinion about things. What I don't think you understand is that the virus doesn't give a **** about your opinion. If you want to think it's a ll one big hoax so big drug companies can make billions, and whatever other conspiracies, then have it. Whatever. Nonetheless, the virus doesn't give a **** about your conspiracies. The fact is that this guy would be alive if he was vaccinated. 

Can any anti-vaccinator here deny that this guy would still be alive if he was vaccinated?

A California man in his early 30s who derided vaccines on Twitter and Instagram died of COVID-19 (msn.com)

Shoulda coulda woulda . . .

He was a Californian - probably praying for death at this point anyway.