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FOS » 24 Jul 2021, 1:49 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 1:49 am

And actually, i am just telling you the official narrative.

the point of this 'vaccine' might have nothing to do with COVID at all as far as i know.

like i said, i dont trust.

Supposedly there is another vaccine due to come out very soon. It is made like the polio one was.. more ol fashioned and does build anti-bodies.. that info comes from the man who made these vaccines.. Dr. Malone. Who does seem like.
 A say it like it is,  type of person..

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2021, 2:24 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 2:24 am

Eh, none of my lines was rooted in politics.... that's just the way I see it...

Funny, you seem to care a lot about what the media says about one guy... just one.. dying because(?) he didn't get vaccinated...

I did my own research... and some basic statistics.. and came to the only logical conclusion... something smells... and I'm not going to let myself get injected with an experimental medicine in the hope of avoiding a bad case of the flu... and maybe I already had the virus, I was pretty sick for a few days last year... but that could also have been the flu... oh, wait.... that can't be...

Funny thing, did you know the flu doesn't exist anymore?

You're avoiding the question... if the vaccine works why should I get vaccinated in order to protect the ones at risk.. why not vaccinate them instead?

Actually there's no point in debating the "science"...because the numbers are completely fabricated.

We already know they performed the scam where they turned PCR cycle thresholds super high back in 2020 and only recently reduced them.

All this back and forth debate implies that both parties agree the numbers are valid. They clearly aren't so there is nothing more to say.

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Vegas » 24 Jul 2021, 12:24 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 12:24 am

Our leaders have never been trustworthy. it's been that way since 1776. That's why my conclusion is solely based on the findings of the researchers and scientists.

Researchers and scientists are not immune to politics. They are also not immune to kickbacks from industry-tied groups.

Prior to 1950 the vast majority of scientists including Watson and Crick were very much aware of the immutable differences between Caucasoids and Negroids.

Today it is "forbidden knowledge" that no scientist who wants to keep his or her job will say openly. Scientists will either lie or unintentionally believe the falsehood that race is merely a social construct.

If you tell the truth, be prepared to accept life as an outcast and have your career/business cancelled by subhuman progressive retards.

Polar1ty » 24 Jul 2021, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 3:00 am

Actually there's no point in debating the "science"...because the numbers are completely fabricated.

We already know they performed the scam where they turned PCR cycle thresholds super high back in 2020 and only recently reduced them.

All this back and forth debate implies that both parties agree the numbers are valid. They clearly aren't so there is nothing more to say.​​​​​

Oh, I know the numbers are fake and that the test was never intended to determine a 'case'....

But even if you believe the numbers aren't fake it just doesn't make sense... 4 million deaths... a world population of almost 8 billion... in 18 months... how hard can it be to do the math... it's so obvious....

Yet the entire planet has to be vaccinated to make sure granny doesn't die in the nursing home.... seriously... it's your social responsibilty to get injected with an experimental vaccine so granny will never die....lol...

I really hope that vegas will answer my question.... but I don't think he will... the true believers always avoid the obvious problem with their 'logic'... the vaccine works... that's why you need to get vaccinated to protect others... who are vaccinated too but they aren't protected because you refuse to take the vaccine...but then again, the definition of a vaccine has been changed too so it probably makes perfect sense to them...

 
 
 

Deezer Shoove » 23 Jul 2021, 5:08 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 5:08 pm

Shoulda coulda woulda . . .

He was a Californian - probably praying for death at this point anyway.

What if vs what about, and the 3 battlefields between. Bet you cannot explain what you stumbled into with this post?

Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 11:58 am

Look, anti-vaccinators, we all have a right to our opinion about things. What I don't think you understand is that the virus doesn't give a **** about your opinion.

We understand it fine.  Everybody understands how opinion works.  Opinion is pretty much all we got.  What you need to understand is that we don't give a **** about your opinion.  Opinion is all you got.  And when pressed to provide some backup for your **** up opinions you're either gone or your spewing personal comments as a reaction to having your *** handed to you on a plate.  So...what we come to forums for (typically not forums like this one, of course) is to debate over the backup that we provide behind our opinions.  I go elsewhere for this activity...it's where I learn things.

So why do I hang around here?  I need someplace to vent my spleen at assholes like you...so here I am.  
 

IkeBana » 24 Jul 2021, 7:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 7:25 am

We understand it fine.  Everybody understands how opinion works.  Opinion is pretty much all we got.  What you need to understand is that we don't give a **** about your opinion.  Opinion is all you got.  And when pressed to provide some backup for your **** up opinions you're either gone or your spewing personal comments as a reaction to having your *** handed to you on a plate.  So...what we come to forums for (typically not forums like this one, of course) is to debate over the backup that we provide behind our opinions.  I go elsewhere for this activity...it's where I learn things.

So why do I hang around here?  I need someplace to vent my spleen at assholes like you...so here I am.

If the dying are the unvaxxed, GOP boys......then why do you care ??

Libertarian  =  "Freedom To Choose".

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm

Do you know what a healthy 30 year old's chances are from dying OF CV19 [and nothing else]...?
In our nation of 330 million do you think I could "CHERRY PICK" a story like this daily about ADVERSE VACCINATION REACTION /  DEATH  from our vast data base of information..?
I spent yesterday at a large hospital with a friend.
There were 75 ER Rooms.
I asked about CV19 cases and  ALL the nurses and aides said they were not permitted to talk about that.....  
If I asked the same question 10, 20, 30 or more years ago about a virulent outbreak do you think I would get the same  "1984 BIG BROTHER" response from the workers..?..  
I didn't see any obvious CV19 cases waiting to be seen.
No DOUBLE MASKED EMPLOYEES.....  
At the admissions desk they didn't bother with CV19 screening, either....

So **** what.  Get **** vaccinated asshole, or maybe mother nature will do her job and kill off assholes like you who refuse to be vaccinated.  It's sort of a natural selection thing.  The stupid and lazy die.

Licensed medical professionals can lose their licensure if they discuss information related to specific cases without a signed release of confidention information.  It's against the law in every state and has been for decades.  And...privacy for patients was noted in the Hippocratic Oath, which is over 2000 years old.

"Big brother" my ***, stupid ****.
 

FOS » 24 Jul 2021, 1:48 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 1:48 am

it alters your mRNA (part of your genetics) in an attempt to decrease the 'symptoms' of the virus.

But does absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of the virus.

The fact is that it prevents infection, prevents the spread of the virus, *******.  And, the fewer people who contract the virus, the lower the rate of development of new variants, **** *******.
 
 And your description of how the vaccine works is wrong.  Decrease the symptoms?  Are you for **** real?

Read Isaacson's book on Jennifer Doudna and the development of CRISPR-CAS9.  Learn something, you **** ignoramus.  And by the way...you anti-science schmuck...this gene splicing technology is going to cure cancer, cure autimmune diseases, cure genetic defects, and create a whole new way of delivering whole new levels of health to the world.
 

Three days before his death, Stephen Harmon tweeted, "If you don't have faith that God can heal me over your stupid ventilator then keep the Hell out of my ICU room, there's no room in here for fear or lack of faith!"


Wow!

IkeBana » 24 Jul 2021, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 9:08 am

The fact is that it prevents infection, prevents the spread of the virus, *******.  And, the fewer people who contract the virus, the lower the rate of development of new variants, **** *******.
 
 And your description of how the vaccine works is wrong.  Decrease the symptoms?  Are you for **** real?

Read Isaacson's book on Jennifer Doudna and the development of CRISPR-CAS9.  Learn something, you **** ignoramus.  And by the way...you anti-science schmuck...this gene splicing technology is going to cure cancer, cure autimmune diseases, cure genetic defects, and create a whole new way of delivering whole new levels of health to the world.

hilarious cause you have no clue what you are talking about

He's got his vax tag next he gets to earn his neutered tag

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2021, 4:13 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 4:13 am

Oh, I know the numbers are fake and that the test was never intended to determine a 'case'....

But even if you believe the numbers aren't fake it just doesn't make sense... 4 million deaths... a world population of almost 8 billion... in 18 months... how hard can it be to do the math... it's so obvious....

Yet the entire planet has to be vaccinated to make sure granny doesn't die in the nursing home.... seriously... it's your social responsibilty to get injected with an experimental vaccine so granny will never die....lol...

I really hope that vegas will answer my question.... but I don't think he will... the true believers always avoid the obvious problem with their 'logic'... the vaccine works... that's why you need to get vaccinated to protect others... who are vaccinated too but they aren't protected because you refuse to take the vaccine...but then again, the definition of a vaccine has been changed too so it probably makes perfect sense to them...

As I posted weeks ago...I have seen some teenagers mock the stupidity of progressive retards...restoring a small ray of hope...

It bears noting that it was the Orange Dotard who authorized the creation of the bioweapon mischaracterized as a "vaccine"

IkeBana » 24 Jul 2021, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 9:08 am

The fact is that it prevents infection, prevents the spread of the virus, *******.... 

lol.. it's a fact that you're a stoopid shrink... if it prevents infection how do you explain this?

 


 
 

Vegas » 24 Jul 2021, 1:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 1:25 am

We live on unknowns everyday, but we still trust that our lives will be safe anyway. The food we eat, the bridges we drive over, the homes we live in, the planes we fly on..etc...our safety is in the hands of the researchers/engineers/scientist who designed these things. It's all faith. We have faith that they know what they are doing and that our lives will be safe under their expertise. This is no different. I am not paranoid that my home wasn't built safely by some multimillion housing company anymore than I should be paranoid that the scientists who developed this vaccine did it unsafely, though they work for a multibillion dollar company.

It's not a matter of trust, it's an untested technology with huge potential for unintended side effects. I don't think they would deliberately produce a vaccine to reduce the population or anything nefarious like that. Some of the acute effects are absolutely frightening, we don't know what this will look like in 5 years. In 10 years. A healthy doctor got the vaccine and it caused a severe immune response which removed every platelet from his blood. He bled out internally over a painful and torturous day. I am happily surprised that these reactions are rare but I don't like the way such stories are buried. The public should know the risks.
 

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2021, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 10:11 am

lol.. it's a fact that you're a stoopid shrink... if it prevents infection how do you explain this?
 

You're a stupid Q-Anon conspiracy theorist and anti-science cretin...that's how I explain it.

The vaccines protect from infection and if a rare infection happens it keeps the virus from killing us.
 

Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2021, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 10:11 am

lol.. it's a fact that you're a stoopid shrink... if it prevents infection how do you explain this?

:rofl:  


 
 

He is an orderly in a psyche ward at a VA hospital. He couldn't get the job in any other health care system except the one run by politicians taking care of their electorate having government jobs.

IkeBana » 24 Jul 2021, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 10:20 am

You're a stupid Q-Anon conspiracy theorist and anti-science cretin...that's how I explain it.

The vaccines protect from infection and if a rare infection happens it keeps the virus from killing us.

Thanks for proving my point.. both of them...

How many vaccinated Karens were on that plane... how many got infected.... if... rare... lol...

 
 

IkeBana » 24 Jul 2021, 7:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 7:25 am

We understand it fine.  Everybody understands how opinion works.  Opinion is pretty much all we got.  What you need to understand is that we don't give a **** about your opinion.  Opinion is all you got.  And when pressed to provide some backup for your **** up opinions you're either gone or your spewing personal comments as a reaction to having your *** handed to you on a plate.  So...what we come to forums for (typically not forums like this one, of course) is to debate over the backup that we provide behind our opinions.  I go elsewhere for this activity...it's where I learn things.

So why do I hang around here?  I need someplace to vent my spleen at assholes like you...so here I am.

My opinions were based on the research and stats you stupid asshole. 

Polar1ty » 24 Jul 2021, 3:07 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2021, 3:07 am

Researchers and scientists are not immune to politics. They are also not immune to kickbacks from industry-tied groups.

Prior to 1950 the vast majority of scientists including Watson and Crick were very much aware of the immutable differences between Caucasoids and Negroids.

Today it is "forbidden knowledge" that no scientist who wants to keep his or her job will say openly. Scientists will either lie or unintentionally believe the falsehood that race is merely a social construct.

If you tell the truth, be prepared to accept life as an outcast and have your career/business cancelled by subhuman progressive retards.

True, but there comes a time when we have to stop the political ****. I am not a lie detector, none of us are. I can't go through life assuming these people are lying or those people are lying..etc...How do any of us know, with 100% certainty, of who is lying and who isn't? I take the information, I process it, and I make my conclusion that I believe best fits the science. Science is all we got. If the scientists are lying, then I don't know what to say. However, I am not going to live everyday assuming that they are all liars.