The law proves you wrong.maineman » 11 Nov 2023, 8:53 pm » wrote: ↑ tap dancing doesn't become you.
The disability had HERETOFORE been incurred. THAT is what was repealed. NOT any future office holder who supported some future insurrection in distant future centuries
prove me wrong.
golfboy » 11 Nov 2023, 9:17 pm » wrote: ↑ The law proves you wrong.
Your room temp IQ simply can't comprehend why.
again, I don't need to prove you wrong. The law does that.maineman » 11 Nov 2023, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑ nice dodge. The law specifically uses the word HERETOFORE. It does NOT apply to future insurrectionists in future centuries.
prove me wrong.
I dare you, you dyslexic, moronic buffoon.
the law specifically deals with people who, PRIOR to the passage of the law (HERETOFORE), had been involved in an insurrection. By using that word, it clearly and unambiguously does NOT apply to those folks who may participate in an insurrection at some point in the future.golfboy » 11 Nov 2023, 9:41 pm » wrote: ↑ again, I don't need to prove you wrong. The law does that.
lol. Leave it to mainbitch to declare himself "winner" because he knows he got his ****** grabbed in public again.maineman » 11 Nov 2023, 9:55 pm » wrote: ↑ Hey @golfboy .... Don't you just **** HATE It when I kick your *** like this?
Heretofore, it has always been like slow-pitch fungo balls.... hereafter, it will be the same.
Come on back whenever you feel compelled to get the **** kicked out of you... I will gladly oblige!
"Heretofore". One wonders why Congress used THAT particular word??golfboy » 11 Nov 2023, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑ lol. Leave it to mainbitch to declare himself "winner" because he knows he got his ****** grabbed in public again.
*******. bitch.
The amusing part is that he still thinks the President is an "officer" of the United States.
And he didn't even know that last sentence of the Amendment existed, claiming Congress couldn't change an amendment.
Social consensus doesn't change the evolving process that keeps the population never same ancestors born a second time since conceived one at a time combined to total sum occupying space now.maineman » 11 Nov 2023, 7:03 pm » wrote: ↑ isn't that a really long way of saying you don't have the roll calls? :rofl:
Weird you can't find anything to back up your ignorant position.maineman » 12 Nov 2023, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑ "Heretofore". One wonders why Congress used THAT particular word??
The real amusing part is that you can't admit that the word was chosen for the precise reason I laid out - to absolve past insurrectionists of their crimes and to allow them to reenter the process of governance. If Congress had wanted to say that any future insurrectionists would have their preemptive approval and encouragement, they could have simply started the process to repeal the entire amendment or, at least, section 3, which they did not. In fact, they were quite able to absolve crimes of the past while retaining the admonitions against insurrections going forward simply by inserting that one word. "Heretofore" is a very cool word, imho. It says so much with just ten little letters!
Be careful you don't say something stupid calling others ignorant when you won't accept how evolving happens in plain sight. Hypocrisy comes from saying something different from everyone else evolving forward same way all life has evolved since inception to each ancestral lineage of each species in this atmosphere.golfboy » 12 Nov 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: ↑ Weird you can't find anything to back up your ignorant position.
golfboy » 12 Nov 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: ↑ Weird you can't find anything to back up your ignorant position.
When intellectual relative time logistics isn't the same thing as biological relative time adapting as displaced "heretofore" is hyperbole.maineman » 13 Nov 2023, 7:50 am » wrote: ↑ Why would I need to? The language is undeniable. "HERETOFORE" has an obvious unambiguous definition. It says what it says. It means what it means. Including that word clearly shows that the relief provided is only for prior behavior.
Because everyone governed in good faith is misled cradle to grave every generation gap serving humanity's ideas of better tomorrows when evolving doesn't physically exceed being alive now.maineman » 12 Nov 2023, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑ "Heretofore". One wonders why Congress used THAT particular word??
The real amusing part is that you can't admit that the word was chosen for the precise reason I laid out - to absolve past insurrectionists of their crimes and to allow them to reenter the process of governance. If Congress had wanted to say that any future insurrectionists would have their preemptive approval and encouragement, they could have simply started the process to repeal the entire amendment or, at least, section 3, which they did not. In fact, they were quite able to absolve crimes of the past while retaining the admonitions against insurrections going forward simply by inserting that one word. "Heretofore" is a very cool word, imho. It says so much with just ten little letters!
Poor mainbitch.maineman » 13 Nov 2023, 7:50 am » wrote: ↑ Why would I need to? The language is undeniable. "HERETOFORE" has an obvious unambiguous definition. It says what it says. It means what it means. Including that word clearly shows that the relief provided is only for prior behavior.
Different legal scholars have different opinions.golfboy » 17 Nov 2023, 7:57 pm » wrote: ↑ Poor mainbitch.
3 Court cases against Article 14.
And today, the Colorado judge:
Section 3 does not specifically refer to the presidency, as it does members of the U.S. Senate or House of Representatives. Instead, the clause refers to “elector of President and Vice President,” along with civil and military offices.
BWAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHA
Exactly what I've been telling mainbitch for months.
This liberal judge just kicked your *** with exactly what I've been telling you for months.maineman » 17 Nov 2023, 8:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Different legal scholars have different opinions.
I would hope that didn’t come as a surprise to you.
And, somehow, you think that his is the only legal opinion held by jurists and scholars on this issue?golfboy » 17 Nov 2023, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑ This liberal judge just kicked your *** with exactly what I've been telling you for months.
Article 14 Section 3 doesn't apply to the President.
Early, you **** the bed or something?maineman » 18 Nov 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑ And, somehow, you think that his is the only legal opinion held by jurists and scholars on this issue?
wow.
Heretofore, I would not have thought such unimaginative, narrow-minded thinking was possible in adults.
Heretofore is a tyrant's/tyranny favorite word. Its parallel phase is "Because we said so.". Anyone disagreeing or disobeying will be charged with insubordination, treason, blasphemy of that social consensus used ancestrally to this date.maineman » 18 Nov 2023, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑ And, somehow, you think that his is the only legal opinion held by jurists and scholars on this issue?
wow.
Heretofore, I would not have thought such unimaginative, narrow-minded thinking was possible in adults.