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Time out for some facts.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-clas ... 1296?amp=1
In this daily series, Newsweek explores the steps that led to the January 6 Capitol Riot.
On December 23, pro-Trump organizer Cindy Chafian sent a follow-up email about the planned January 6 event, saying that 15,000 participants were expected.

"All available evidence," the U.S. Park Police wrote in an internal report the same day, "indicates that we should expect an event similar to those that occurred on 14 November 2020 and 12 December 2020." The Park Police highlighted that "opposition groups ... plan[ed] to counter-protest ... as they have in the past."

"A higher number that expected people [sic] have already made concerted plans to travel to the District of Columbia for the event," the Park Police said.

"The protests/rallies [are] expected to be similar to the previous Million MAGA March rallies in November and December 2020," the U.S. Capitol Police agreed in their December 23 "Special Assessment" (21-A-0468 V.2).

The Secret Service added: "There are approximately fifty nine (59) groups identified as potentially participating in First Amendment activities on January 6, 2021 at or around the White House Complex (WHC) ... Expected attendance is around 20,000 participants."

Six times as many protestors—as many as 120,000—would show up on the Mall on January 6, according to classified numbers still not released by the Secret Service and the FBI but seen by Newsweek. But there is still not an official estimate, nor have any of the Congressional committees or task forces offered a number. Nor is there a clear number of how many people actually entered the Capitol, or tried to get in.

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Civics 101

The day began with about 100,000 Americans lawfully exercising their right to assemble and for free speech.

Things went all to **** later, they surely did.

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At least 1,000 people so far have been arrested on charges related to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, the Department of Justice said.
More than half of those defendants have pleaded guilty to crimes, the DOJ said.

The update comes as the department is investigating former President Donald Trump for his conduct leading up to and on the day of the riot by hundreds of his supporters.

The siege disrupted a joint session of Congress that later confirmed the election of Joe Biden as president.
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Let’s say, the small number of rioters, only a tiny fraction of the crowd, had stayed peaceful.

Put 120,000 angry Americans in one small area and they’ll have to piss, and ****, and some damned fool will start a fight with another fool, and they’ll toss trash all over the streets. That’s all technically illegal, but we don’t read of any arrests for public indecency or littering or peace disturbance.

Let’s say only one thousand of the worst of the worst of the mob, which might have only been five thousand MAGAS out of 120,000 MAGAS, assaulted police officers or breached the doors.

This was a White Lives Matter protest gone bad.

And they had enough good sense to not have any guns or there’d be several thousand pushing up daises.

Next time, the Capitol Police won’t sit there and watch them coming like the Battle of the Little Bighorn. .

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:33 pm

Insurrection is a federal crime.  The Trump DoJ did not need any approval from governors or mayors to issue indictments.

People who feel compelled to shout by overusing the ALL CAPS option really should know that volume does not equal accuracy.

and I know precisely what Cloward Piven is... and it is NOT a RESURRECTION, you **** moron.

MANY WERE ARRESTED AND THEIR FEDERAL CHARGES WERE DROPPED. PROSECUTORS DECLINED TO PURSUE MANY OF THE CASES BECAUSE THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE PROTESTORS WERE EXCERSING THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS.
IN RESPONSE TO YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT OF IGNORANCE:
THE 10TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS THE PRESIDENT FROM SENDING TROOPS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO A STATE WITHOUT A WRITTEN REQUEST BY THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE. TRUMP NOTIFIED GOVERNORS OF AFFECTED STATES. NONE WANTED FEDERAL INTERVENTION.  

YOU HAVE NO **** IDEA WHAT THE CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY IS, KNUCKLEHEAD JANITOR 
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:38 pm

I only changed it to increase its accuracy.

YOU CHANGED IT BECAUSE YOU'RE A WEAK, UNLETTERED, ******
SIMPLY PUT
 

righteous » 04 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm

MANY WERE ARRESTED AND THEIR FEDERAL CHARGES WERE DROPPED. PROSECUTORS DECLINED TO PURSUE MANY OF THE CASES BECAUSE THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE PROTESTORS WERE EXCERSING [sic] THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS.
IN RESPONSE TO YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT OF IGNORANCE:
THE 10TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS THE PRESIDENT FROM SENDING TROOPS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO A STATE WITHOUT A WRITTEN REQUEST BY THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE. TRUMP NOTIFIED GOVERNORS OF AFFECTED STATES. NONE WANTED FEDERAL INTERVENTION.  

YOU HAVE NO **** IDEA WHAT THE CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY IS, KNUCKLEHEAD JANITOR

So... are you suggesting that the DoJ cannot prosecute a federal crime without the approval of state authorities?
And I know all about Cloward and Piven and I know it was not a "resurrection".

righteous » 04 Aug 2023, 7:07 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:07 pm

YOU CHANGED IT BECAUSE YOU'RE A WEAK, UNLETTERED, ******
SIMPLY PUT

BS, MBA, TS(SI)(CNWDI)

versus:

@righteous    GED.

 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:38 pm

I only changed it to increase its accuracy.

You change people's posts because you can't deal with what they actually say. 
You have some ignorant point you want to argue, so you change what people say, so you can go down that road. 
We see it all the time.
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:18 pm

BS, MBA, TS(SI)(CNWDI)

 

Prove it.   No one believes any of that crap based on your stunning ignorant. 
Room temp.    

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:33 pm

Insurrection is a federal crime.  The Trump DoJ did not need any approval from governors or mayors to issue indictments.

People who feel compelled to shout by overusing the ALL CAPS option really should know that volume does not equal accuracy.

and I know precisely what Cloward Piven is... and it is NOT a RESURRECTION, you **** moron.

A CASE FOR INSURRECTION DOESN'T GET DONE IN 6 MONTHS, **** IDIOT. FOR THE SHORT PERIOD TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT AFTER THE RIOTS, THERE WERE 600 ARRESTS FOR FEDERAL CRIMES. PROSECUTORS DECLINED TO PURSUE SOME OF THE CASES BECAUSE THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE PROTESTORS WERE EXCERSING THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS. 

IN RESPONSE TO YOUR OTHER IGNORANT STATEMENT:
THE 10TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS THE PRESIDENT FROM SENDING TROOPS OR LAW ENFORCEMNT INTO A STATE WITHOUT A WRITTEN REQUEST BY THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE.
TRUMP OFFERED FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO EVERY LIBERAL STATE AFFECTED BY THE RADICAL LEFTISTS DESTROYING THEIR OWN CITIES. GOTTA LOVE THE LIBERAL IGNORANCE AND **** ON YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE ARE WHAT BIDEN PEOPLE ARE.    

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE **** A CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY IS, ****.
SO YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO CAPS, ******?                  

 
 

golfboy » 04 Aug 2023, 7:21 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:21 pm

You change people's posts because you can't deal with what they actually say. 
You have some ignorant point you want to argue, so you change what people say, so you can go down that road. 
We see it all the time.

ah..the whiny dyslexic ankle-biter makes his bi-weekly appearance.

how droll!  
 
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:24 pm

ah..the whiny dyslexic ankle-biter makes his bi-weekly appearance.

how droll!

Facts suck when you're mainbitch.
 

righteous » 04 Aug 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:24 pm

A CASE FOR INSURRECTION DOESN'T GET DONE IN 6 MONTHS, **** IDIOT. FOR THE SHORT PERIOD TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT AFTER THE RIOTS, THERE WERE 600 ARRESTS FOR FEDERAL CRIMES. PROSECUTORS DECLINED TO PURSUE SOME OF THE CASES BECAUSE THEY CONCLUDED THAT THE PROTESTORS WERE EXCERSING [sic] THEIR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS. 

IN RESPONSE TO YOUR OTHER IGNORANT STATEMENT:
THE 10TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS THE PRESIDENT FROM SENDING TROOPS OR LAW ENFORCEMNT [sic] INTO A STATE WITHOUT A WRITTEN REQUEST BY THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE.
TRUMP OFFERED FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO EVERY LIBERAL STATE AFFECTED BY THE RADICAL LEFTISTS DESTROYING THEIR OWN CITIES. GOTTA LOVE THE LIBERAL IGNORANCE AND **** ON YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE ARE WHAT BIDEN PEOPLE ARE.    

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE **** A CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY IS, ****.
SO YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO CAPS, ******?               

Your spelling is atrocious.

If the feds had a case, they should have pursued it, don't you think?

And I do know what the Cloward and Piven strategy is, and I know that it is not a "resurrection", which is what you claimed it was.  

Own your idiocy.
 

golfboy » 04 Aug 2023, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:25 pm

Facts suck when you're mainbitch.

as if you'd ever know a fact if it was buried in the third sentence of ANYTHING, you dyslexic brain-damaged moron!    

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:18 pm

BS, MBA, TS(SI)(CNWDI)

versus:

@righteous    GED.

BS (FOR ****), MBA (FOR MASTURBATOR)
ACTUAL- JANITOR TECHNICIAN
   

MY EDUCATION
ELECTRICAL TECHNOLOGY AS, STATE UNIVERSITY AT FARMINGDALE
ENGINEERING DEGREE, RENSSELAER
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:29 pm

Your spelling is atrocious.

If the feds had a case, they should have pursued it, don't you think?

And I do know what the Cloward and Piven strategy is, and I know that it is not a "resurrection", which is what you claimed it was.  

Own your idiocy.

THEY HAD A CASE.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT PROSECUTES REAL CRIMINALS LIKE BIDEN, LEFTISTS AND RINOS. 
DO YOU MEAN INSURRECTION, FRUITCAKE? EXACTLY WHAT OCCURED IN THE SPRING/SUMMER OF 2020.


 
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:16 pm

So... are you suggesting that the DoJ cannot prosecute a federal crime without the approval of state authorities?
And I know all about Cloward and Piven and I know it was not a "resurrection".

DID I SAY THAT, DUMB ****?
STOP DOING WHAT YOU DO BEST, MAKE UP LIES THAT OTHERS NEVER SAID. 
YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF A LEFTIST.

THEN YOU KNOW 2020 WAS A CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY RESULTING IN AN INSURRECTION CAUSING 2 BILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGES. 
 

maineman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:31 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:31 pm

as if you'd ever know a fact if it was buried in the third sentence of ANYTHING, you dyslexic brain-damaged moron!  

Damn it sucks to be mainbitch.
 

righteous » 04 Aug 2023, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:47 pm

THEY HAD A CASE.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT PROSECUTES REAL CRIMINALS LIKE BIDEN, LEFTISTS AND RINOS. 
DO YOU MEAN INSURRECTION, FRUITCAKE? EXACTLY WHAT OCCURED [sic] IN THE SPRING/SUMMER OF 2020.

If they had a case, they were negligent if they didn't bring it.  That is not the fault of democrats.

And "resurrection" was YOUR word, not mine.  If you can't keep track of your own ****-ups, don't expect me to cover for you.  

golfboy » 04 Aug 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:58 pm

Damn it sucks to be mainbitch.

I wouldn't know.  I am maineman and my life is **** awesome.  I just played a cute little Robert Trent Jones nine-hole track in Hollis Maine three over.

Video of the Capitol police opening the magnetic doors and letting the crowd in.
https://twitter.com/dc65512824/status/1 ... 1578838020

righteous » 04 Aug 2023, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:53 pm

DID I SAY THAT, DUMB ****?
STOP DOING WHAT YOU DO BEST, MAKE UP LIES THAT OTHERS NEVER SAID. 
YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF A LEFTIST.

THEN YOU KNOW 2020 WAS A CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY RESULTING IN AN INSURRECTION CAUSING 2 BILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGES.

so... if Trump's DoJ did NOT prosecute BLM protesters, whose fault is that?  the democrats????


and you called it a resurrection... not me.

GED moron.