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sootedupCyndi » 08 Jul 2022, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 1:14 pm

We lose the power over here sometimes for days.. during storms.
if its summer we dont care? we pizz in the woods. no problemo.

Winter it gets a bit more cold...and serious... a person could do pissicles.. 20 below zero?

I had an invention... had a wire plant stand.. that was my toilet seat.. under it was a bucket..
when it got full... i dumped it out the window! 
totally a womans toilet!
why? our generator shat the bed right before a huge storm... 4 days...
remember that if your married Skans... big tip.
     
but i had clean toilets in the house!!

All of the houses I've lived in have had septic tanks.  Only one had a well, other ones had municipal water.  Now, the one with a well - without electricity, you have no water getting into the toilets - we kept a generator in good shape for that one.  Sounds like you are on a well - gotta have a generator to make that baby work!  But, the good thing with a well, a generator, a propane tank, and a wood stove in a 1500 sf house is you are essentially self sufficient.  Gas for the generator is only a Jeep ride away.

Here you go Cyndi, I found you a nice antique one so you can pizz in style!....


 
 

Skans » 08 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm

All of the houses I've lived in have had septic tanks.  Only one had a well, other ones had municipal water.  Now, the one with a well - without electricity, you have no water getting into the toilets - we kept a generator in good shape for that one.  Sounds like you are on a well - gotta have a generator to make that baby work!  But, the good thing with a well, a generator, a propane tank, and a wood stove in a 1500 sf house is you are essentially self sufficient.  Gas for the generator is only a Jeep ride away.

Here you go Cyndi, I found you a nice antique one so you can pizz in style!....

no I have a septic tank.. 
And a deep well water. 50 plus feet deep. I have helped pull it out to fix the foot valve. numerous times..

But nothing works unless there is power.
a person can get maybe a few flushes.. thats it.

I also have a beautiful wood furnace in the basement..
but with no power the fans dont blow.
The heat WILL rise up ever so slowly. You won't freeze to death but you will SHIVER
so i have a alternative source now.. 
Out of desperation from the last storm.. bought a keroscene heater..
There! direct heat.. all set.
And we are thinking about cleaning out my living room chimney... I hate to do that and put dirty wood in my living room?sparks and filth?
but I think I will? because the way this world is going... Cant be TOO much prepared. With Brain Dead at the helm.
RIGHT NOW everyone is warm.. it summer.
you wait until all our cold states.. starts filling up our tanks for oil.. and the prices.
baby-You aint seen nothing yet.!
half the country is cold like us.. a tank of gas IS REALLY NOT MY CONCERN!!!
baby money!

 
 

sootedupCyndi » 08 Jul 2022, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 1:49 pm

no I have a septic tank.. 
And a deep well water. 50 plus feet deep. I have helped pull it out to fix the foot valve. numerous times..

But nothing works unless there is power.
a person can get maybe a few flushes.. thats it.

I also have a beautiful wood furnace in the basement..
but with no power the fans dont blow.
The heat WILL rise up ever so slowly. You won't freeze to death but you will SHIVER
so i have a alternative source now.. 
Out of desperation from the last storm.. bought a keroscene heater..
There! direct heat.. all set.
And we are thinking about cleaning out my living room chimney... I hate to do that and put dirty wood in my living room?sparks and filth?
but I think I will? because the way this world is going... Cant be TOO much prepared. With Brain Dead at the helm.
RIGHT NOW everyone is warm.. it summer.
you wait until all our cold states.. starts filling up our tanks for oil.. and the prices.
baby-You aint seen nothing yet.!
half the country is cold like us.. a tank of gas IS REALLY NOT MY CONCERN!!!
baby money!

LOL 50 feet is a "deep well".  The well I once had was 495 feet.  It actually got struck by lightning once - yeah, go figure!  It took a big truck with some kind of crane thing on it driving down my gravel driveway and on down the road to pull it out.  When they got it out, the well guy showed me where the oil inside boiled and expanded the stainless steel outer casing puffing it up like a balloon.  Some of the oil leaked into the well, but since it was a newer pump, it was only mineral oil and not the toxic stuff used in old pumps.  So, the wader tasted a bit bitter for about 3 months, then it was nice and clean again.
 

Skans » 08 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm

All of the houses I've lived in have had septic tanks.  Only one had a well, other ones had municipal water.  Now, the one with a well - without electricity, you have no water getting into the toilets - we kept a generator in good shape for that one.  Sounds like you are on a well - gotta have a generator to make that baby work!  But, the good thing with a well, a generator, a propane tank, and a wood stove in a 1500 sf house is you are essentially self sufficient.  Gas for the generator is only a Jeep ride away.

Here you go Cyndi, I found you a nice antique one so you can pizz in style!....

We did.. we knew the storm was coming.. my generator was checked? A week before. shat out.
We're not dummies!  my buddy flew out of this house for a new one.
he spent 900 bucks on me. He bought me a new generator! that day it got delivered... it had a different PLUG! too late! no adapters in any hardware stores.. SOLD OUT! storm was here. total cost of that storm... 1300$

Skans » 08 Jul 2022, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 8:07 am

Not necessarily.  I would think it would be possible to prepare for a disaster even in an urban setting.  You would have to choose a structure that can be sustained without electricity for a long period of time - I see that as the biggest problem.  Then, stashing 6 months of emergency food supply isn't all that expensive nor difficult.  Defense - you should be able to get your hands on a couple of guns and sufficient ammo for defense. Communication - I'd keep a CB radio around for that. Barter - could be done with a stash of old Mercury dimes and cheap booze. Water would be an issue, especially if you are living in a sky box. But, if you are near the ground, it shouldn't be too difficult to get access to water. 

You would need to be able to reinforce your entrance and windows.  I used a cheap system which was nothing more than a steel bar going across rear doors to make it very difficult to break into some warehouses I owned. You would break the concrete walls before you could bash that door in.  About the only way to defeat it would be to cut into the steel door, which takes time.

While all of the unprepared people in the city are trying to "bug out" or kill each other for supplies, you could stay shut in, if you can stand the cabin fever.

@impartialobserver  has some very interesting and enlightening stories to tell about his time living in a bum-camp.  I see this being very similar to a bug-out situation where you would be among hoards of other homeless people.   Basically, I see this as a very dangerous and unsustainable way of surviving, unless you are already hardened to that way of living.  It's not just about being resourceful and equipped. Its more about instinctively knowing how to avoid the crazy **** desperate (or just plain crazy) people will do to you.

That is fantastic advice! It really is! Thank you! 

But some of it doesn't apply to me. I'm in an apartment. I can't fortify anything besides the front door. I have guns, i live in AZ, everyone has guns. :-) But water, being in az, is going to be a problem besides what I can store in my apartment. I have limited real estate :-). And if the electric goes out, and my AC goes out, I can't stay here in 115 degree weather. So I have to bug out. And if my car don't work due to an EMP pulse... 

I guess I'm **** if the SHTF. :-)

sootedupCyndi » 08 Jul 2022, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2022, 8:58 am

I have a nice CRANK radio. which is a pain in the arss. Only get 45 minutes out of it and crank away again.  Cb is a good idea.
i cant talk on my ham-SW/ . still eventually need batteries too.

Yeah, I want to get one of those. Just for fun! 

But i don't know if it will help me. Actually I want get like a CB Radio, and crank out stuff when I'm drunk! :-)

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 3:56 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 3:56 am

Yeah, I want to get one of those. Just for fun! 

But i don't know if it will help me. Actually I want get like a CB Radio, and crank out stuff when I'm drunk! :-)

We have a lot of BEANS. Guess what? I dont eat beans.    

sootedupCyndi » 09 Jul 2022, 6:26 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 6:26 am

We have a lot of BEANS. Guess what? I dont eat beans.  

You sure fart like you do... 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 6:40 am

You sure fart like you do...

    ssssshhhh -Dont spill the beans on me.

sootedupCyndi » 09 Jul 2022, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 6:42 am

    ssssshhhh -Dont spill the beans on me.

lol, your farts smell like roses. 


I can tell, I'm down wind... 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 6:44 am

lol, your farts smell like roses. 

I can tell, I'm down wind...

 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 3:49 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 3:49 am

That is fantastic advice! It really is! Thank you! 

But some of it doesn't apply to me. I'm in an apartment. I can't fortify anything besides the front door. I have guns, i live in AZ, everyone has guns. :-) But water, being in az, is going to be a problem besides what I can store in my apartment. I have limited real estate :-). And if the electric goes out, and my AC goes out, I can't stay here in 115 degree weather. So I have to bug out. And if my car don't work due to an EMP pulse... 

I guess I'm **** if the SHTF. :-)

consequences of choices combined since conceived. Simple compounding details like evolving without exceeding mutually evolving here. Karma.

Name a larger picture than evernity kinetically separates ancestors occupying space now as universally here one cycle of life at a time never same population again. Each reproduction is a half life addition requiring two to replace one at a time same as individually dying forward regardless which generation they became at death.

Point of origin. original great great grandchild
2nd generation arrives when original generation has results becoming 1 of 2 parents of next generation life goes on or extinction arrived.
3rd generation, 2nd generation has individuals becoming 1 of 2 parents and original parents become typecast as 1 of 4 grandparents.
4th generation arrives when some 3rd generation become 1 of 2 parents and those parenting this current became 1 of 4 grandparents, their parents became 1 of 8 great grandparents even if they died already. the last generation arriving has 12.5% their DNA.
5th generation most siblings and parenting people of the origin of their species or genetic ancestral progression have died off but still became 1 of 16 to each added great great grandchild reproduced by the great grandchildren of 2nd generation.

The eternal looping of 93.75% DNA of each generated great great grandchild arriving currently is from their previous 4 generations. Kinetic linking of genetics that reveals now is eternity to the eternal separation of chromosomes since inception of the species and ancestral lineages combined into current numbers evolving in plain sight. and 99% of the population believe it isn't possible.

Orwell's 1984 has reached fruition 30 centuries prior to 20th century AD.

omh » 09 Jul 2022, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:04 am

consequences of choices combined since conceived. Simple compounding details like evolving without exceeding mutually evolving here. Karma.

Name a larger picture than evernity kinetically separates ancestors occupying space now as universally here one cycle of life at a time never same population again. Each reproduction is a half life addition requiring two to replace one at a time same as individually dying forward regardless which generation they became at death.

It is karma. I would choose to move to a northern climate. Where I don't have to worry about electricity. And just chop wood. But I ended up in the valley, with 115 degree heat. Once I can, I will move up to to Flagstaff. But until then, I'm stuck here... 


So I gotta figure out how to survive in the desert, if the SHTF. 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 7:12 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:12 am

It is karma. I would choose to move to a northern climate. Where I don't have to worry about electricity. And just chop wood. But I ended up in the valley, with 115 degree heat. Once I can, I will move up to to Flagstaff. But until then, I'm stuck here... 

So I gotta figure out how to survive in the desert, if the SHTF.

Really? I have an extra room. How MUCH wood would you like to do?    ****. we'll even teach you to plow snow. And shovel too.  

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 7:12 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:12 am

It is karma. I would choose to move to a northern climate. Where I don't have to worry about electricity. And just chop wood. But I ended up in the valley, with 115 degree heat. Once I can, I will move up to to Flagstaff. But until then, I'm stuck here... 


So I gotta figure out how to survive in the desert, if the SHTF. 

stay in a warmer climate, just not a natural desert area. Dah! Technological advances aren't intellectual evolution since intellect is nothing more than induced energy in a brain working 100% capacity working the body to adapt with eternally separated now. If you really looked at evolving working naturally you would realize each person's fertilized cell, the nucleus was their brain a body developed around creating the central nervous system with each cell division creating the organs to support adapting with eternally separated now.

Everyone rather believe real isn't real and life cannot only be evolving here now. Reality's don't exist without doubting how and why one is specifically limited to their own skin.

Not my fault every reality fails, but I have an understanding as to why they always do.

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 6:44 am

lol, your farts smell like roses. 


I can tell, I'm down wind... 

never has there been a northeast winds go from Maine to AZ. Not how the world turns. Just occurred to me in this post, anyone ever tie the lunar orbit to weather patterns are as equally affected as tides? The moon does take 29.375 days to go from new moon to new moon. that slower orbit than rotation of the planet effects the atmosphere as it does water levels at see level on the curved earth's surface.

anyone study that in science.or is that classified by department of energy.

Example of how my brain works, do all hurricanes coming off the coast of Africa start above the equator or below the equator taking into account earth's axis facing the star and wave pattern of lunar orbit? 0 latitude they do go the reverse direction of planet rotation where regular weather follows with the rotation.

Guess I will have to look into that myself. I discovered what everyone else wished nobody ever knew and talked about in reality without facing kick back from people saving humanity.

omh » 09 Jul 2022, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:32 am

never has there been a northeast winds go from Maine to AZ. Not how the world turns.

In an upside world they might.  

sootedupCyndi » 09 Jul 2022, 7:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:23 am

Really? I have an extra room. How MUCH wood would you like to do?    ****. we'll even teach you to plow snow. And shovel too.

how much wood, would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood? 

Dang, I'll chuck it all! I'm from NY, so I know about snow :-) 

My idol is Dick Proenneke.


Google him... 

sooted up Cyndi » 09 Jul 2022, 7:42 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 7:42 am

In an upside world they might. :)  

When everyone on the planets feet face the same core nor or south am or pm side of the planet, relative up is facing out of the atmosphere and our sun would actually be a north electromagnetic pole and earth's magnetic pole the arctic circle wobble is perpendicular to one another.

Again I wouldn't be able to think about that without these https://i.postimg.cc/gjFHTKBf/Picture-173.jpg images comparing reality thinking outside a box and a body never same details twice.