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Jantje_Smit » 09 Jul 2022, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:00 am

I read that guy has been in the Alaskan wilderness for 30 years... why would you want to live that... it looks cold and primitive... I like the comforts of 'civilization', a warm home, tv, internet, beer, a microwave... I wouldn't be much good doing the survival stuff in the wilderness... innocent city boy... lol...

I love the idea of being alone. And surviving on my own. 

I'm a social person, but living like he does is my bucket list. 

sootedupCyndi » 09 Jul 2022, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:10 am

Thats you! the guy with the cig.  

Glenn Frey - You Belong To The City - YouTube

I had a window I used to sit in just like that... smoking a cig and thinking about stuff... girls... lol... that guy could have been me.. minus the big nose...

 
 

Jantje_Smit » 09 Jul 2022, 9:31 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:31 am

I had a window I used to sit in just like that... smoking a cig and thinking about stuff... girls... lol... that guy could have been me.. minus the big nose...

I know.   looks like YOU

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:21 am

I love the idea of being alone. And surviving on my own. 

I'm a social person, but living like he does is my bucket list.

I did some survivalling when I was doing my patriotic duty... sleeping in the snow, cooking over a campfire, digging latrines in the frozen ground... that wasn't fun at all... I never want to feel that cold again.... living in a cabin in the wilderness isn't on my list at all... not alone anyway, it might be fun with company for a few weeks...

 


 
 

Jantje_Smit » 09 Jul 2022, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:54 am

I did some survivalling when I was doing my patriotic duty... sleeping in the snow, cooking over a campfire, digging latrines in the frozen ground... that wasn't fun at all... I never want to feel that cold again.... living in a cabin in the wilderness isn't on my list at all... not alone anyway, it might be fun with company for a few weeks...

 

That's great that you had the opportunity. I haven't yet. And I want it. Badly. 

That's how I want to roll. I want to live like that. But i do need running water, that is absolute necessity. So I can't live like Dick, I need a toilet that can flush... That's the only difference!


I take 2-3 poops a day, and I can't imagine going to an outhouse 2-3 times a day in negative 30 degree weather.... 

Anything I eat, comes out my *** in 4-5 hours. So breakfast, lunch and dinner, means 3 poops a day!

Jantje_Smit » 09 Jul 2022, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:00 am

I read that guy has been in the Alaskan wilderness for 30 years... why would you want to live that... it looks cold and primitive... I like the comforts of 'civilization', a warm home, tv, internet, beer, a microwave... I wouldn't be much good doing the survival stuff in the wilderness... innocent city boy... lol...

I would love it. Just to get away from people for a while. He's not a loner, he had many people come visit him. But he loved his alone time. Like I wish I could. 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 8:43 am

Cubans can make good food! 

What do you do? 

obvious I see what everyone else wishes wasn't real, or there wouldn't have been all the realities staging humanities since dawn of societal evolution/civilization governed by power of suggesting life cannot be limited to how it actually evolves in plain sight and why law requires personal obedience as each one of a kind reproductions created in compounding series parallel displacement as ancestrally arrived.

omh » 09 Jul 2022, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 12:22 pm

obvious I see what everyone else wishes wasn't real, or there wouldn't have been all the realities staging humanities since dawn of societal evolution/civilization governed by power of suggesting life cannot be limited to how it actually evolves in plain sight and why law requires personal obedience as each one of a kind reproductions created in compounding series parallel displacement as ancestrally arrived.

What do you eat? 

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 12:27 pm

What do you eat? 

besides my pride, certain foods. You do realize I discuss things nobody accepts beyond a slim to none possibility. Everyone I ever met is sold into believing reality is the limitation of a human cultivated mind. Truth is, it is a truism, because a mind is a social conscience of what people historically chose to believe each generation upto current events including their own ancestry.

RunningWithScissors » 09 Jul 2022, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2022, 9:21 am

I love the idea of being alone. And surviving on my own. 

I'm a social person, but living like he does is my bucket list. 

here is how you do it. understand kinetic genetics in relationship to mutually evolving here now in series parallel displacement to geographical area living. over 7.5 billion individual cycles of human reproduction alive now. Each one is in real time one of a kind numbering the total reproductions occupying space specifically here.

Stop believing eternal life only arrives after dead. Life only exists as biology eternally separates total sum numbers existed so far. Again, extinction arrives when great great grandchildren aren't already born.

then the rest of the previous 4 generations that would have conceived tthem,die off forward.

If someone is in one of the metros in the mostly arid west... your primary issue would be water. Pacific Northwest (from Eureka, CA up to the Canadian Border) would be the exception. If the municipal water supply is hit... you have precious few options and most likely quite a few others not encumbered with children will beat you to it. One can drill for water but that takes some serious time and luck. Besides, drilling 500 feet for water would leave you exposed. Everybody this side of the Sierras would know what you were doing.

As for bugging out and being with crazy folks.... you have to learn to always be on alert. Easier said than done. Desperation makes folks do strange things. Having been homeless for 8 weeks, I saw a bit of it.

I spent summers with my paternal grandparents in Shoup, Idaho (look it up on google maps). That kind of isolation... most folks do not like it. Its not just liberal city dwellers who dislike it. Have taken quite a few "Conservative" types up here and when the cell service dies and they realize that there are no public utilities... they get uneasy. They start asking me, "When are we going back to town". My time there has since passed, grandparents have passed, and the house/land were sold. After so long, I may revert to the same entitled, lazy city dweller.

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2022, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 10:53 am

I spent summers with my paternal grandparents in Shoup, Idaho (look it up on google maps). That kind of isolation... most folks do not like it. Its not just liberal city dwellers who dislike it. Have taken quite a few "Conservative" types up here and when the cell service dies and they realize that there are no public utilities... they get uneasy. They start asking me, "When are we going back to town". My time there has since passed, grandparents have passed, and the house/land were sold. After so long, I may revert to the same entitled, lazy city dweller.

living in your own brain doesn't like reverting to reciting what people believe life should evolve as socially forward leaving understanding behind. In tune with only evolving now doesn't take to captivity by context over content graciously, but can be done civilly as required by natural law.

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2022, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 10:49 am

If someone is in one of the metros in the mostly arid west... your primary issue would be water. Pacific Northwest (from Eureka, CA up to the Canadian Border) would be the exception. If the municipal water supply is hit... you have precious few options and most likely quite a few others not encumbered with children will beat you to it. One can drill for water but that takes some serious time and luck. Besides, drilling 500 feet for water would leave you exposed. Everybody this side of the Sierras would know what you were doing.

As for bugging out and being with crazy folks.... you have to learn to always be on alert. Easier said than done. Desperation makes folks do strange things. Having been homeless for 8 weeks, I saw a bit of it.

if you drill for well water... I have a deep well. A person still needs electricity to get it up. If there was a total meltdown of the grid? how would you get water up?
and if there were no gas to power our generator. we would be **** outta luck.

sootedupCyndi » 11 Jul 2022, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 12:13 pm

if you drill for well water... I have a deep well. A person still needs electricity to get it up. If there was a total meltdown of the grid? how would you get water up?
and if there were no gas to power our generator. we would be **** outta luck.

Yes, you would a generator, the necessary equipment, and knowledge along with lots of fuel. Drilling 500 feet down through rock is not easy. If there was a total meltdown of the grid and zero chance of it coming back in the near future... I would find a way to one of two places... Western Montana or Central idaho. Plenty of water, fish, vegetation, and not bitterly cold in the wintertime. Lows of -10 with little wind are manageable where -60 with wind behind it.. is not. 

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 12:30 pm

Yes, you would a generator, the necessary equipment, and knowledge along with lots of fuel. Drilling 500 feet down through rock is not easy. If there was a total meltdown of the grid and zero chance of it coming back in the near future... I would find a way to one of two places... Western Montana or Central idaho. Plenty of water, fish, vegetation, and not bitterly cold in the wintertime. Lows of -10 with little wind are manageable where -60 with wind behind it.. is not.

If it were winter here in maine.. we could melt snow... summer? drink rain water?
we have an old rock dug well on our property. It scares the crap outta me... because hunters walk the property and dont see it.. I had roped off at one time.. This property used to be an old potato farm. many many years ago.
i wonder if it still fills up with water. i'm gonna send someone down to check. it's probably collapsed.
 
 

sootedupCyndi » 11 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 12:40 pm

If it were winter here in maine.. we could melt snow... summer? drink rain water?
we have an old rock dug well on our property. It scares the crap outta me... because hunters walk the property and dont see it.. I had roped off at one time.. This property used to be an old potato farm. many many years ago.
i wonder if it still fills up with water. i'm gonna send someone down to check. it's probably collapsed.

In short, you are better equipped for a meltdown of the energy grid. For those in relatively dry places, they would be mostly screwed. Especially if this meltdown was in the summer. Highs of 115 with little to no shade and very little surface water would make for a lot of casualties. Even if one finds water, it is likely not drinkable without considerable treatment. 

impartialobserver » 11 Jul 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2022, 12:48 pm

In short, you are better equipped for a meltdown of the energy grid. For those in relatively dry places, they would be mostly screwed. Especially if this meltdown was in the summer. Highs of 115 with little to no shade and very little surface water would make for a lot of casualties. Even if one finds water, it is likely not drinkable without considerable treatment.

One of my friends lived off the grid.. But we went thru a few disasters here in maine.. And i tell you.. it taught us some nasty hard lessons... you freeze here- you die.
we had a huge ice storm in 87.. and  i took in folks freezing.. only for a week.. lol but i was happy to help.