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 Most  interesting article  "Yes, Impostor Syndrome Is Real. Here's How to Deal With It"

https://time.com/5312483/how-to-deal-wi ... -syndrome/

It talks about fears of being exposed as a frauds  wide spread (70%) among the so-called high achievers. They say it is a psychiatric condition which needs to be medically treated.

There is a paper  on that in International Journal of Behavioral Science

 The Impostor Phenomenon

The Impostor Phenomenon was identified from clinical observations during
therapeutic  sessions  with  high  achieving  women  by  Dr  Pauline  Clance. 
Despite  objective  evidence  of  success,  these  women  had  a  pervasive 
psychological  experience  believing  that they  were  intellectual  frauds  and 
feared  being  recognised  as  impostors.    They  suffered  from  anxiety,  fear  of 
failure  and  dissatisfaction  with  life.    This  article  reviews  definitions  and 
characteristics  of  trait  Impostorism,  some  antecedents,  such  as  personality 
and  family  achievement  environment  and  psychological  distress  as  a 
consequence of Impostorism.

https://www.tci-thaijo.org/index.php/IJ ... ew/521/pdf

Another article

Imposter Syndrome Hits Harder When You're Black

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/imposter ... dfc514ec5c

However I think that what they call Impostor Syndrome is in reality conscience.
 

i mean...thats the simplest explanation. they are actually imposters.

Imagine if Madoff's son who reported his dad and hanged himself afterward realized that he has an impostor syndrome. A treatable psychiatric condition. He could have sought professional medical help and Madoff's firm would be today a respectable financial institution.
 

dickens » 11 Feb 2022, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 2:39 pm

Imagine if Madoff's son who reported his dad and hanged himself afterward realized that he has an impostor syndrome. A treatable psychiatric condition. He could have sought professional medical help and Madoff's firm would be today a respectable financial institution.

Did you see that gubmint propaganda video.  On a black chick who had this syndrome? it came on the heals of the cartoon ad... join the military? where the cartoons had two lesbian mothers? wtf? is society so regressed they need cartoons? can someone pull this up for me?

sootedupCyndi » 11 Feb 2022, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 3:25 pm

Did you see that gubmint propaganda video.  On a black chick who had this syndrome? it came on the heals of the cartoon ad... join the military? where the cartoons had two lesbian mothers? wtf? is society so regressed they need cartoons? can someone pull this up for me?

No, I haven't. An article suggests to overcome the syndrome it helps "reciting one’s accomplishments in front of a mirror." ( https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-wo ... r-syndrome )
Is this what she is doing now?
 
 

dickens » 11 Feb 2022, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 2:39 pm

Imagine if Madoff's son who reported his dad and hanged himself afterward realized that he has an impostor syndrome. A treatable psychiatric condition. He could have sought professional medical help and Madoff's firm would be today a respectable financial institution.

I really doubt that his firm could have ended up respectable. Madoff did more harm than people realize. Whether we like it or not, innocent people who are related or connected to guilty people who did real horrible acts are,  unfortunately, convicted by society as well. It's not fair, but it is what it is. 

dickens » 11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm

No, I haven't. An article suggests to overcome the syndrome it helps "reciting one’s accomplishments in front of a mirror." ( https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-wo ... r-syndrome )
Is this what she is doing now?

gosh i wish I could remember that and find it for you.. Let me think on it. You would LUV it.  It was some recruiting video. Not the military.. didn't I laugh when I saw it. Maybe someone else will remember. we discussed it, at the time..

An updated name for low self-esteem?

...internalize those successes...

Jesus...
 
 

dickens » 11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm

No, I haven't. An article suggests to overcome the syndrome it helps "reciting one’s accomplishments in front of a mirror." ( https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-wo ... r-syndrome )
Is this what she is doing now?

I got it for ya!!!!!.. gawds_that was digging deep into my memory. I get a ton of news you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yxb-gPPTA
 

DeezerShoove » 11 Feb 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 7:47 pm

An updated named for low self-esteem?

...internalize those successes...

Jesus...

This is like in the case of apestract artists. They are successful because their paintings are sold for millions. But one can't tell their masterpieces from those produced by animals. Despite that they should internalize their monetary success. And specialists are ready to help them.
 
 
 

 FOS
i mean...thats the simplest explanation. they are actually imposters.

This is an obvious null-hypothesis. Remarkably no scientific article on the topic even considers it.
 
 

dickens » 06 Feb 2022, 11:10 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2022, 11:10 pm

Most  interesting article  "Yes, Impostor Syndrome Is Real. Here's How to Deal With It"
https://time.com/5312483/how-to-deal-wi ... -syndrome/
It talks about fears of being exposed as a frauds  wide spread (70%) among the so-called high achievers. They say it is a psychiatric condition which needs to be medically treated.
There is a paper  on that in International Journal of Behavioral Science
https://www.tci-thaijo.org/index.php/IJ ... ew/521/pdf
Another article
Imposter Syndrome Hits Harder When You're Black
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/imposter ... dfc514ec5c
However I think that what they call Impostor Syndrome is in reality conscience.

Despite  objective  evidence  of  success,  these  women  had  a  pervasive 
psychological  experience  believing  that they  were  intellectual  frauds  and 
feared  being  recognised  as  impostors.    They  suffered  from  anxiety,  fear  of 
failure  and  dissatisfaction  with  life. 

That's because they gave / give a **** about what others think of them.

dickens » 11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 7:32 pm

No, I haven't. An article suggests to overcome the syndrome it helps "reciting one’s accomplishments in front of a mirror." 

Noooo  **** ?

ROFL **** MAO  (and I don't mean the chink one)

JinnMartini » 12 Feb 2022, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 12:27 pm

Despite  objective  evidence  of  success,  these  women  had  a  pervasive 
psychological  experience  believing  that they  were  intellectual  frauds  and 
feared  being  recognised  as  impostors.    They  suffered  from  anxiety,  fear  of 
failure  and  dissatisfaction  with  life. 

That's because they gave / give a **** about what others think of them.

These types of people amaze me... your right!
I think they're so wrapped up in what they are... a woman- and a this and that.. Their minds get confused. The woman in that video has some big head issues. Go about your life-be yourself and don't worry about it. LOL

JinnMartini » 12 Feb 2022, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 12:27 pm

That's because they gave / give a **** about what others think of them.

I think it is something different. It is more like a person with a Stanford PhD in Engineering has to call an electrician to replace an electric switch. This simple task should be well within the qualifications guaranteed by her advanced degree. And so she feels like a fraud.

See also The tools of racism
 
 

dickens » 12 Feb 2022, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 1:35 pm

I think it is something different. It is more like a person with a Stanford PhD in Engineering has to call an electrician to replace an electric switch. This simple task should be well within the qualifications guaranteed by her advanced degree. And so she feels like a fraud.

See also The tools of racism

No !

This person may be just like me  . . .  I know a lot more than just how to replace an electric switch  . . .  and still wouldn't bother for the manual work  . . .  I just pay some guy and he does everything I tell him to do.

And I don't have anything like a Stanford PhD in Engineering or any other degree, for that matter !

I've always followed my instinct !

But it is true that when I was young I did everything myself.

I never ever cared what  "others"  thought of me, though.

I just went my way !

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But it was a different age  . . .  lots of space  . . .  lots more freedoms  . . .  probably half the current human population  . . .  plenty of uncontaminated places  . . .  a happy-go-like  age  . . .  cheerfully unconcerned about the future.

JinnMartini » 12 Feb 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 1:55 pm

No !

This person may be just like me  . . .  I know a lot more than just how to replace an electric switch  . . .  and still wouldn't bother for the manual work  . . .  I just pay some guy and he does everything I tell him to do..

And what about vacuum cleaning cooking or laundry?

And that a lot more that you do know is akin to heterosexual design of solid electrolyte interphase?






 
 

JinnMartini » 12 Feb 2022, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 1:55 pm

No !

This person may be just like me  . . .  I know a lot more than just how to replace an electric switch  . . .  and still wouldn't bother for the manual work  . . .  I just pay some guy and he does everything I tell him to do.

And I don't have anything like a Stanford PhD in Engineering or any other degree, for that matter !

I've always followed my instinct !

But it is true that when I was young I did everything myself.

I never ever cared what  "others"  thought of me, though.

I just went my way !

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But it was a different age  . . .  lots of space  . . .  lots more freedoms  . . .  probably half the current human population  . . .  plenty of uncontaminated places  . . .  a happy-go-like  age  . . .  cheerfully unconcerned about the future.

It cracks me up.. I never gave a thought about being a woman.. I just was A Cyndi.. always satisfied with that? Never gave it one thought.. Never cared what any man thought about me.. but knowing my limitations.. I knew to call for help with electrical- plumbing and such. I always think of Hooey... Don't try this at home.. before I try being McGyver... I think.
but i've pulled off miracles with a roll of duck tape and some wire  

dickens » 12 Feb 2022, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 2:35 pm

And what about vacuum cleaning cooking or laundry?

Cooking is my wife's pleasure.
For the rest  . . .  we got slaves.

dickens » 12 Feb 2022, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2022, 2:35 pm

And that a lot more that you do know is akin to heterosexual design of solid electrolyte interphase?

No idea what the **** you're talking about.
 

sootedupCyndi » 11 Feb 2022, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2022, 7:47 pm

I got it for ya!!!!!.. gawds_that was digging deep into my memory. I get a ton of news you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yxb-gPPTA

that ad is so dripping with hate