Phelix_Dacat » 25 Mar 2022, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑ This PG thread is for serious discussions the Ukraine-Russian War...
Jomini of the West
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Seriously?Jomini of the West
I count no less than 6 threads on page one alone. They are readily visible, so how are they getting lost? How is 6 threads "only slight and fleeting interest?"Phelix_Dacat » 25 Mar 2022, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑ Many of these discussion are occurring on disparate threads and getting lost. I was waiting on someone else to start one, but it looks like there is only slight and fleeting interest.
LincolnNebraska » 25 Mar 2022, 12:20 pm » wrote: ↑ How is 6 thread "only slight and fleeting interest?"
Cannonpointer » 25 Mar 2022, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑ They are devolving into ****-fights. This one is a PG thread which the author has announced will be kept on topic. How he manages that will be interesting to see. One of the biggest issues twixt left and right is in the area of credibility of sources. For example, I find RT far more credible as regards fact claims than sister stations Fox and MSNBC. And just to illustrate the divide, this thread's author would never agree that Fox and MSNBC are sister stations. Nor would you, I will wager.
So there is THAT complication.
Then there is the question of the OP's character and honor. Any time one makes a serious post in a PG thread, one relies on the honor of the OP not to ****-can it when it embarrasses their thesis and they cannot refute it. So there is THAT issue blowing ever so gently in the breeze.
Then there is the fact that this is a partisan **** hole wherein the high expectations of the OP are highly unlikely not to be dashed by conditions on the ground - making this thread no less an exercise in futility than those others to which you make reference.
Feel me, nucka?
LincolnNebraska » 25 Mar 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ They are from different user names. Are you saying the OP has 5 other accounts?
JinnMartini » 25 Mar 2022, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑ I think we're talking of two different threads.
I was talking about this one from felix.
Cannonpointer » 25 Mar 2022, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑ They are devolving into ****-fights. This one is a PG thread which the author has announced will be kept on topic. How he manages that will be interesting to see. One of the biggest issues twixt left and right is in the area of credibility of sources. For example, I find RT far more credible as regards fact claims than sister stations Fox and MSNBC. And just to illustrate the divide, this thread's author would never agree that Fox and MSNBC are sister stations. Nor would you, I will wager.
So there is THAT complication.
Then there is the question of the OP's character and honor. Any time one makes a serious post in a PG thread, one relies on the honor of the OP not to ****-can it when it embarrasses their thesis and they cannot refute it. So there is THAT issue blowing ever so gently in the breeze.
Then there is the fact that this is a partisan **** hole wherein the high expectations of the OP are highly unlikely not to be dashed by conditions on the ground - making this thread no less an exercise in futility than those others to which you make reference.
Feel me, nucka?
I agree they get all supportive of Russia invading a country that was a democracy because they hate freedom.LincolnNebraska » 25 Mar 2022, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑ It's amazing how people getting emotionally wrapped up in this, based on how the media tells them to think.
This basically demonstrates media power and lack of information about the conflict.LincolnNebraska » 25 Mar 2022, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Most people support Ukraine. YouGov polls show Americans support Ukr over Russia 73% to 6%
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling ... raine.aspx
Lack of information is in Russian news sources. I America you have free press not government press like in Russia. I believe America media over Russia media any day.LincolnNebraska » 25 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑ This basically demonstrates media power and lack of information about the conflict.
Lack of info is in American news sources. They don't report on Ukrainian atrocities.Crazytrain » 25 Mar 2022, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Lack of information is in Russian news sources. I America you have free press not government press like in Russia. I believe America media over Russia media any day.
So media bias fact check is full of ****, and one of the most vacuous posters on this backwater **** has the straight skinny?
Yes RT is worthless.Cannonpointer » 25 Mar 2022, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑ So media bias fact check is full of ****, and one of the most vacuous posters on this backwater **** has the straight skinny?
Okay, worthless - thanks for the update.
Cannonpointer » 25 Mar 2022, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑ This is what happens to these threads, and this is why @Phelix_Dacat needs to PG your stupidity and my responses to it. Side arguments over sources is what these threads devolve to - and to utter ignorance such as yours, in absolute contravention of a source that you will rely on emphatically in another thread.
You're just a worthless piece of **** with zero principles and no capacity for embarrassment.
Crazytrain » 25 Mar 2022, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑ I agree they get all supportive of Russia invading a country that was a democracy because they hate freedom.
Zelensky was elected idiot.JinnMartini » 25 Mar 2022, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑ What "democracy" fool ?
Or LIAR maybe ?
Zelensky staged a coup to take over power !
It's only rigged when your boy loses huh. Not so much when he doesn't.JinnMartini » 25 Mar 2022, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑ It was a rigged election à la Biden !
That's akin to a coup !
Look it up !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukra ... l_election