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Culture of Death and Nihilism
By Monderegal
31 May 2022 11:13 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
31 May 2022 10:40 pm
No doubt assholes populate churches too.FOS » 31 May 2022, 10:35 pm » wrote: ↑ I have seen no evidence that religion causes people to behave better. I HAVE seen evidence that people are more charitable towards people more closely related to them genetically.
In a wholesome community where everyone is religious, you will also note that they are all the same race.
Once diversity happens that cohesion breaks down. Consistently. Like clockwork. The diversity doesn't cause people to be atheist...but it does turn then into assholes.
I'm just saying if a belief in God trends toward some people acting better, what's wrong with that?
Church-goers are not what I'm referring to at all... maybe not even "religion" per se.
...an actual belief in God.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
31 May 2022 10:48 pm
Was Nietzsche a good Christian Soldier?
Or was he an atheist, Anti-Christian Nazi German who hated Jesus
& the donkey that Jesus rode in on ....... into Jerusalem?
Young Texas Sheldon wants to know.
And by the way......where do you stand ?
31 May 2022 10:53 pm
You shouldn't take my memes seriously.I just post them to create controversy. K?Taipan » 31 May 2022, 10:48 pm » wrote: ↑ Was Nietzsche a good Christian Soldier?
Or was he an atheist, Anti-Christian Nazi German who hated Jesus
& the donkey that Jesus rode in on ....... into Jerusalem?
Young Texas Sheldon wants to know.
And by the way......where do you stand ?
@Taipan
31 May 2022 10:55 pm
Do you really think you are more desensitized than the WWII Generation...?Monderegal » 31 May 2022, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑ I found this article in the Atlantic interesting for several reasons. First, it is about American culture itself. We bombard ourselves with violence and anger that has gone to the level of being desensitized to the reality of death. Now, more and more people are taking up arms and acting out their fatal fantasies. This is not simply a gun issue. It is a cultural issue where we never even second guess the media we consume for entertainment as a loathsome effect on our psyches. This used to be a question of political importance but it seems voices that condemned such notions have now gone deaf. With this culture at work, the anger and dark tendencies of human nature will probably rear their ugly head again and again to a point that such violence could become even more common.
The second note here is that it seems many people have given up hope in a better future. The decline of spiritual practices and the alienation of citizens and their government are both signs of this. Even masks are seen as an intrusive government on a public that has given up on civic engagement. The debate on Covid safety measures, of course, is one of democracy but the reasoning sometimes points to a complete rejection of the government in general. Nihilism or the complete rejection of meaning in life was the result of the secularization of American society in my opinion. This was mostly not the case at first when most rejection of organized religion still instilled spirituality in some sort of form. Now as time passes the world has become more bleak for many and the rejection of any sort of meaning in life is much more common. This is a proper analysis of the state of American society at this point in my opinion where we find ourselves looking in the mirror again with the latest mass killing. Link to Atlantic article here.
Infant mortality, women dying in child birth, people dying of easily treated infections, no treatment for most diseases we consider controllable now.
Life expectancy in the 60 year range.
I'd say there are more people today than ever before who have never killed and butchered a chicken, or a deer, or even just a fish.
More people than ever before who have never been in a fist fight or even spent an entire day working or playing outdoors.
The main exposure to "death" this generation has had is from playing Black Ops Commando Nintendo and watching Taratino movies.
31 May 2022 10:58 pm
nuckinfutz » 31 May 2022, 10:53 pm » wrote: ↑ You shouldn't take my memes seriously.I just post them to create controversy. K?
@Taipan
OK.
I can dig that.
I want you on our team in Nov.
Let's turn rogue......even if both of us are getting a little older.
31 May 2022 11:10 pm
I'm already rogue! I collect memes, its my neurosis I guess.Taipan » 31 May 2022, 10:58 pm » wrote: ↑ OK.
I can dig that.
I want you on our team in Nov.
Let's turn rogue......even if both of us are getting a little older.
1 Jun 2022 12:10 am
the most devout, fanatical zealots flew planes into into the twin towers.DeezerShoove » 31 May 2022, 10:40 pm » wrote: ↑ No doubt assholes populate churches too.
I'm just saying if a belief in God trends toward some people acting better, what's wrong with that?
Church-goers are not what I'm referring to at all... maybe not even "religion" per se.
...an actual belief in God.
defenders of the faith have always been the MOST violent.
how many atheist terrorists do you know of?
1 Jun 2022 12:22 am
Hey man....! Good evening to you Sir.SJConspirator » 01 Jun 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑ the most devout, fanatical zealots flew planes into into the twin towers.
defenders of the faith have always been the MOST violent.
how many atheist terrorists do you know of?
Aren't most "Progressives" the ones who make fun of the "BIG GUY IN THE SKY" concept...?
It's not too much of a stretch FOR ME to be able to see our "enlightened progressive" ANTIFA DOMESTIC TERRORISTS as being atheists
1 Jun 2022 8:31 am
Atheists terrorize society differently than Muslim fanatics. They get drunk, beat their kids, abuse their wife, live off of the kindness of others, fornicate with their staff to make bastard children, and their kids grow up to be militant, self-entitled assholes who are worse than their atheist daddy. Reference Karl Marx.....SJConspirator » 01 Jun 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑ the most devout, fanatical zealots flew planes into into the twin towers.
defenders of the faith have always been the MOST violent.
how many atheist terrorists do you know of?
In 1851, while living in London, Marx fathered an illegitimate son by Helen Demuth, the longtime family maid. Fearing that this indiscretion would destroy his marriage and damage his public image, he organized an effective cover-up, whose participants were Marx’s friend and collaborator Friedrich Engels and Helen Demuth.Engels pretended he was the father and Miss Demuth confirmed the deception. The infant, Fredrick Demuth, was given away to be brought up by a working-class family in London. The secret was preserved for more than four decades. In 1895, on his deathbed, Engels confessed to Eleanor Marx -one of Marx’s two surviving daughters. She was shattered by the revelation. Three years later, she committed suicide. In 1911, Marx’s other daughter, Laura, killed herself. Freddy Demuth grew up a neglected, lonely child. Marx could not afford any support. Engels, on whom Marx depended financially, sent small, infrequent remittances. Both Marx and Engels distanced themselves from Freddy. Marx never saw the boy. Freddy Demuth was poorly educated. For most of his life, he worked as a laborer and toolmaker. After Marx’s death, he established closer contact with his mother, who had then become Engels’s housekeeper. Freddy visited her weekly but was allowed only into the kitchen and servants’ rooms through the back door. Engels, like Marx, shunned him. After his mother’s death in 1890, Freddy hardly ever saw Engels. Neither Marx nor Engels provided a legacy for him. However, Marx’s daughters did give Freddy some money from their share of both estates. In 1929, after a hard, obscure life, Freddy died at 78 in a poor section of London. 
1 Jun 2022 8:41 am
Don't think there is one driving factor in violence. I have been to the third world, spent a year traveling in Vietnam. Happiest people I have ever witnessed. Think the sense of community can overcome most other factors, lose that and the thin veneer of civility drops away and violence ensues.impartialobserver » 31 May 2022, 7:35 pm » wrote: ↑ I grew up in the trailer park where violence should have been rampant. All of the ingredients were in place... poverty, drugs, alcohol, poor decision making. Yet, the only real violence was domestic disputes. What was the difference? First, when you left school... you left that world behind except for a few friends. Very few knew where i lived and no one knew that I was a closet audiophile. Social media and the ease of access breaks that barrier down.
1 Jun 2022 8:53 am
Stalin, Mao, Khan, Pot, Hitler.....SJConspirator » 01 Jun 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑ the most devout, fanatical zealots flew planes into into the twin towers.
defenders of the faith have always been the MOST violent.
how many atheist terrorists do you know of?
We as a species enjoy killing "the other". The other faith, the other nationality, the other race, the other political persuasion. Religious differences have certainly led to violence but I would argue such differences are only one of many justifications we have used to kill one another. We love killing "the other".
1 Jun 2022 10:04 am
Hitler is a fascista and a Cattolic.Neo » 01 Jun 2022, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑ Stalin, Mao, Khan, Pot, Hitler.....
We as a species enjoy killing "the other". The other faith, the other nationality, the other race, the other political persuasion. Religious differences have certainly led to violence but I would argue such differences are only one of many justifications we have used to kill one another. We love killing "the other".
Da rest a communistic pigs.
1 Jun 2022 10:13 am
Sok, please.GiovanniStecchino » 01 Jun 2022, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑ Hitler is a fascista and a Cattolic.
Da rest a communistic pigs.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
1 Jun 2022 10:15 am
Sok? No undostand?
1 Jun 2022 10:15 am
One major difference is that with 331 MM people the [[[MSM]]] has twice the amount of chance to find evil things to report every day.
This has led to so many terrified Snowflake Parents raising their kids indoors all day every day.
This sort of an upbringing doesn't lead to good physical health and our mental health is connected to how we feel physically.
This has led to so many terrified Snowflake Parents raising their kids indoors all day every day.
This sort of an upbringing doesn't lead to good physical health and our mental health is connected to how we feel physically.
1 Jun 2022 10:21 am
That isn't even my point.SJConspirator » 01 Jun 2022, 12:10 am » wrote: ↑ the most devout, fanatical zealots flew planes into into the twin towers.
defenders of the faith have always been the MOST violent.
how many atheist terrorists do you know of?
Even that fact that you got a Post of the Day nomination,
then an IMMEDIATE "win" shows me that religion is somehow a sacred cow here.
Apparently a "belief" needs to pass through the right filters to be acknowledged as valid... or it's just evil.
Touchy **** about this, aren't we?
Let's try one last time: If ANY belief makes a person act more responsibly/good/decent/etc.,
what's wrong with it?
ps Most people have beliefs...
Sorry I mentioned . . . dare I say it again? God.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
1 Jun 2022 10:24 am
Go eat your favorite dish.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
1 Jun 2022 10:26 am
DeezerShoove » 31 May 2022, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Aspiring to a higher purpose and character improvement is beneficial.
"Doing the right thing when no one is looking" comes to mind.
If that seems difficult, for some a belief in God serves the purpose.
What's wrong with that?
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Why would you feel the need to be a good person?
(This assumes you want that at all in the first place.)
If you do, what do you have that motivates this desire?
Why be a good person? Hmmm..... by your logic the only reason that someone does not rape women is because some 2000 year old book say not to. It can't possibly be due to any sense of empathy. Nahhh....
Finland, Czech Republic, Hungary... all have higher rates of atheism (and have for decades) and yet do not have nearly the amount of spree killings/school shootings. But religion is the one and only factor involved.
1 Jun 2022 10:43 am
Neo » 01 Jun 2022, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑ Don't think there is one driving factor in violence. I have been to the third world, spent a year traveling in Vietnam. Happiest people I have ever witnessed. Think the sense of community can overcome most other factors, lose that and the thin veneer of civility drops away and violence ensues.
I would say that poverty, desperation, and an overall feeling that things are not going to change are the ingredients to violence. When I spent time in rural Idaho, the folks were not all that rich. But their economics were deliberate, they chose to live in remote and economically depressed areas knowing that they could pick up and move to a city and things would improve.
1 Jun 2022 10:49 am
****... You guys all take it to some weird extreme.impartialobserver » 01 Jun 2022, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑ Why be a good person? Hmmm..... by your logic the only reason that someone does not rape women is because some 2000 year old book say not to. It can't possibly be due to any sense of empathy. Nahhh....
Finland, Czech Republic, Hungary... all have higher rates of atheism (and have for decades) and yet do not have nearly the amount of spree killings/school shootings. But religion is the one and only factor involved.
Religion is the one and only factor? Good enough for me.
You people keep spouting that religion **** all day.
That was never a point with me. That fake **** is all you see out there.
I know this is a tough concept for you deep thinkers.
A belief doesn't have to be religious.
(Unless, of course, you want to win a chat room spat.)
I don't believe in whatever God some church says I should.
I left that dreamland long ago as a **** child.
But allowing that some true believers find solace and purpose is not a tough concept for me.
You guys can all piss on my shoes about that and win that popularity contest, too.
But when you morph what I said to do it... Buh bye.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
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