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California, with 840 miles of shoreline along the Pacific Ocean is constantly complaining that it does not have enough water to sustain itself and its population.  Yet, California has no desalination plants.  Why is that?  With the Pacific Ocean holding 187 quintillion gallons of water, California could have all of the water it could ever use.  But, what's going on here?

Well, it turns out that the same group of people, Environmentalists, who complain about California not having any water also block the construction of desalination plants.  And, what party do so-called Environmentalists belong to?  That's right  - Democrats. 

Australia, Israel, European nations, and Arabic nations have all constructed desalination plants for decades with no negative effects on the environment.  California claims to have the development of desalination plants in the works, but these have all been bogged down by "studies" demanded by crazy Environmentalists. 

So, next time you hear a Californian cry about "not enough water", demand "water restrictions" or bitch about global warming drying up California, please make sure to remind them that their state borders 840 miles of the biggest body of water in the world.  If they want water, all they need to do is get it and take the salt out of it, which in 2022 is easy enough to do.

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am

California, with 840 miles of shoreline along the Pacific Ocean is constantly complaining that it does not have enough water to sustain itself and its population.  Yet, California has no desalination plants.  Why is that?  With the Pacific Ocean holding 187 quintillion gallons of water, California could have all of the water it could ever use.  But, what's going on here?

Well, it turns out that the same group of people, Environmentalists, who complain about California not having any water also block the construction of desalination plants.  And, what party do so-called Environmentalists belong to?  That's right  - Democrats. 

Australia, Israel, European nations, and Arabic nations have all constructed desalination plants for decades with no negative effects on the environment.  California claims to have the development of desalination plants in the works, but these have all been bogged down by "studies" demanded by crazy Environmentalists. 

So, next time you hear a Californian cry about "not enough water", demand "water restrictions" or bitch about global warming drying up California, please make sure to remind them that their state borders 840 miles of the biggest body of water in the world.  If they want water, all they need to do is get it and take the salt out of it, which in 2022 is easy enough to do.

Are you sure it's environmentalists blocking this?

SJConspirator » 02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am

Are you sure it's environmentalists blocking this?

the ones paid by politicians to keep the conflicts going socially for generations forward. Got to keep the past getting ahead of nothing staying the same.

SJConspirator » 02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am

Are you sure it's environmentalists blocking this?

I do believe it is, or that's what I've read anyway.
 

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:46 am

I do believe it is, or that's what I've read anyway.

apparently the concern is how desalination intake valves destroy marine life.

I say you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am

California, with 840 miles of shoreline along the Pacific Ocean is constantly complaining that it does not have enough water to sustain itself and its population.  Yet, California has no desalination plants.  Why is that?  With the Pacific Ocean holding 187 quintillion gallons of water, California could have all of the water it could ever use.  But, what's going on here?

Well, it turns out that the same group of people, Environmentalists, who complain about California not having any water also block the construction of desalination plants.  And, what party do so-called Environmentalists belong to?  That's right  - Democrats. 

Australia, Israel, European nations, and Arabic nations have all constructed desalination plants for decades with no negative effects on the environment.  California claims to have the development of desalination plants in the works, but these have all been bogged down by "studies" demanded by crazy Environmentalists. 

So, next time you hear a Californian cry about "not enough water", demand "water restrictions" or bitch about global warming drying up California, please make sure to remind them that their state borders 840 miles of the biggest body of water in the world.  If they want water, all they need to do is get it and take the salt out of it, which in 2022 is easy enough to do.

You're right about this. I think if it get dry enough people will come around. BTW I don't think the existing water resources in California were ever enough to serve 17 million people.

The navy ship that I was assigned to, the USS Chicago, had one of those systems on board. The water it produced was different but it served the purpose.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/us/calif ... %20service.

As water runs short in California, commission rejects $1.4 billion desalination plant
 
 

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am

California, with 840 miles of shoreline along the Pacific Ocean is constantly complaining that it does not have enough water to sustain itself and its population.  Yet, California has no desalination plants.  Why is that?  With the Pacific Ocean holding 187 quintillion gallons of water, California could have all of the water it could ever use.  But, what's going on here?

Well, it turns out that the same group of people, Environmentalists, who complain about California not having any water also block the construction of desalination plants.  And, what party do so-called Environmentalists belong to?  That's right  - Democrats. 

Australia, Israel, European nations, and Arabic nations have all constructed desalination plants for decades with no negative effects on the environment.  California claims to have the development of desalination plants in the works, but these have all been bogged down by "studies" demanded by crazy Environmentalists. 

So, next time you hear a Californian cry about "not enough water", demand "water restrictions" or bitch about global warming drying up California, please make sure to remind them that their state borders 840 miles of the biggest body of water in the world.  If they want water, all they need to do is get it and take the salt out of it, which in 2022 is easy enough to do.

I lived in a third world dictatorship that had deslination plants in the 70s. California is less competent than that. This is not a surprise - there is greater and more widespread corruption. California's political system (which launched kameltoe, whose qualifications came down to dispensing expert and enthusiastic oral favors for king maker Willie Brown) is more corrupt and less functional for citizens than Franco's Spain. 
 

SJConspirator » 02 Jun 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:48 am

apparently the concern is how desalination intake valves destroy marine life.

I say you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs

I believe that was the concern, and a stupid one at that - so, some fish die. Environmentalists are idiots.
 

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:03 am

California, with 840 miles of shoreline along the Pacific Ocean is constantly complaining that it does not have enough water to sustain itself and its population.  Yet, California has no desalination plants.  Why is that?  With the Pacific Ocean holding 187 quintillion gallons of water, California could have all of the water it could ever use.  But, what's going on here?

Well, it turns out that the same group of people, Environmentalists, who complain about California not having any water also block the construction of desalination plants.  And, what party do so-called Environmentalists belong to?  That's right  - Democrats. 

Australia, Israel, European nations, and Arabic nations have all constructed desalination plants for decades with no negative effects on the environment.  California claims to have the development of desalination plants in the works, but these have all been bogged down by "studies" demanded by crazy Environmentalists. 

So, next time you hear a Californian cry about "not enough water", demand "water restrictions" or bitch about global warming drying up California, please make sure to remind them that their state borders 840 miles of the biggest body of water in the world.  If they want water, all they need to do is get it and take the salt out of it, which in 2022 is easy enough to do.

Not only that...but pulling that water out of the ocean and spraying in on the ground to produce food (and wine), would help offset the rising water level from melting ice.  Its a win-win  

Rock » 02 Jun 2022, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:50 am

You're right about this. I think if it get dry enough people will come around. BTW I don't think the existing water resources in California were ever enough to serve 17 million people.

The navy ship that I was assigned to, the USS Chicago, had one of those systems on board. The water it produced was different but it served the purpose.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/us/calif ... %20service.

As water runs short in California, commission rejects $1.4 billion desalination plant

All tap water tastes different to me, especially from one state to another.  As long as its drinkable, it can be filtered using even a fridge filter for better taste.  Personally, I think they should have desalination plants running 24/7 pumping fresh water into lakes/reservoirs in California's interior.  Maybe they can actually greenify that desert state.
 
 

SJConspirator » 02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:27 am

Are you sure it's environmentalists blocking this?

Yes, it is they. Cali is way behind meeting its need because of them.

Santa Babara gets 30% of its water from a desalinaton plant. There are a total of a dozen desalination plants in Cali. There should be more than a hundred. The largest desalination plant in the western hemisphere is the Carlsbad Desalination Plant in San Diego, which provides 12% of the city's drinking water. 

https://abc7news.com/california-drought ... /10900176/

The US Virgin Islands have been using desalinated water for 50 years. 

There is no draught in California. The state's climate went through a brief wet period in the last half of the previous century. 
 

ConsRule » 02 Jun 2022, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:58 am

Not only that...but pulling that water out of the ocean and spraying in on the ground to produce food (and wine), would help offset the rising water level from melting ice.  Its a win-win

You are absolutely right.  Except, water levels aren't rising and ice isn't melting.  But, there is gobs and gobs of ocean water, so who really cares?
 

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:58 am

All tap water tastes different to me, especially from one state to another.  As long as its drinkable, it can be filtered using even a fridge filter for better taste.  Personally, I think they should have desalination plants running 24/7 pumping fresh water into lakes/reservoirs in California's interior.  Maybe they can actually greenify that desert state.

An even more elegant solution would be the construction of a few large retention ponds in the midwest, capturing the annual nuisance flood waters of the yallerstone, missouri, mississippii et al, and pumping it over the rockies into lake powell in utah - headwater of the colorado.

That's what God's servant, Adam, would do: say to the Mississippi, "You were fashioned to feed the Gulf of Mexico, but to serve the interests of human kind, some of your waters will feed the Pacific, by the power of my word and by the stewardship granted me by our Heavenly Father."

The waters shipped west could be daylighted at various stops along the route, creating residential, industrial, agricultural and commercial opportunities. The monies earned by such daylighting, the monies saved from preventing annual nuisance floods and septennial catastrophic floods, and the monies derived from the sale of the rerouted waters in the arid southwest would all combine to easily justify the expense of the project. The resulting agricultural bounty would erase America's trade deficit. 

This would require long term planners. Wall Street is obsessed with next quarter, and wall street governs this country, unelected. 
 
 
 

https://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_is ... isting.pdf

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Jun 2022, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 12:02 pm

https://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_is ... isting.pdf

So California does have desalinization plants. Click on the address and you will see where they are.
California might be smarter than Skans AND Cannonpointer, yes?

Xavier_Onassis » 02 Jun 2022, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 12:04 pm

So California does have desalinization plants. Click on the address and you will see where they are.
California might be smarter than Skans, yes?
 

 

Cannonpointer » 02 Jun 2022, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 11:14 am

An even more elegant solution would be the construction of a few large retention ponds in the midwest, capturing the annual nuisance flood waters of the yallerstone, missouri, mississippii et al, and pumping it over the rockies into lake powell in utah - headwater of the colorado.

That's what God's servant, Adam, would do: say to the Mississippi, "You were fashioned to feed the Gulf of Mexico, but to serve the interests of human kind, some of your waters will feed the Pacific, by the power of my word and by the stewardship granted me by our Heavenly Father."

The waters shipped west could be daylighted at various stops along the route, creating residential, industrial, agricultural and commercial opportunities. The monies earned by such daylighting, the monies saved from preventing annual nuisance floods and septennial catastrophic floods, and the monies derived from the sale of the rerouted waters in the arid southwest would all combine to easily justify the expense of the project. The resulting agricultural bounty would erase America's trade deficit. 

This would require long term planners. Wall Street is obsessed with next quarter, and wall street governs this country, unelected.

That's too difficult, would piss too many states off and is unnecessary - just take the salt out of the ocean water!  2/3rd's of the planet is ocean water.
 

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 10:46 am

I do believe it is, or that's what I've read anyway.
 

which is it? you understand nothing specifically is what I read and you only pick sides that lead in popularity of the day. Safety in numbers only works when numbers aren't ignoring actual genetic results not defined by theories or theologies.

Amcestral practice at ignoring how biology works naturally got this species exactly where it arrived here now. Lost in translation.

omh » 02 Jun 2022, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 12:14 pm

which is it?
 

Yes.

Skans » 02 Jun 2022, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2022, 12:12 pm

That's too difficult, would piss too many states off and is unnecessary - just take the salt out of the ocean water!  2/3rd's of the planet is ocean water.

Too difficult is NEVER a reason to back off an idea. "Too difficult" should mean tackle it, rather than kick the can to our grandkids, down the road. Those flood waters should have been addressed in the 60s. We should put a stop to that - lives are lost every year to flooding in the midwest, and hundreds of millions in property daage occur.

Pretend the pipeline is for oil. See that?

The only thing the states would be "pissed off" over is being bypassed. They would FIGHT to be part of the project. Daylighted pipeline water plus **** land = prime real estate = increased economic growth, increased population, new jobs and an increased tax base.

It's not an either/or. This nation needs two hundred desalination plants yesterday. This project is paid for four ways: selling irrigation water to the southwest, eliminating our trade deficit, saving billions in flood damage and turning **** lands into prime real estate. New state and national parks and recreation areas, new commercial opportunities - the options from dylighting the pipeline are endless. Another way the project pays for itself is through decreased flood risks, which equates to decreased insurance premiums - we're talking hundreds of millions annually.