Liberal Forum
Archive
‹
Political Chat Rooms
‹
No Holds Barred Political Forum
‹
JD Vance says look at the complete picture on guns
JD Vance says look at the complete picture on guns
By Monderegal
7 Jun 2022 5:49 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
7 Jun 2022 5:49 pm
JD Vance is a Republican candidate but I like his thoughts on the Uvadle mass shooting. The Hillbilly Elegy author (a book I should have read years ago) says that there is a need to look at the complete picture when it comes to gun violence. The problem isn't just guns. Yes, that is an issue that needs to be seriously discussed in my opinion. However, trends like the decline of the family and other norms that prevented this sort of barbarity in the past. He also seems to be playing only one side on this tweet. Perhaps it's more of an all of the above when it comes to gun violence. Here is the tweet.
Of course, there is also a very puzzling question of how to change society. Cultures tend to be organic and outside the realm of political and government control in America and other free societies. The issue of drug use and violent mass media have been discussed but how to change a culture is difficult. The internet tends to be a place that remains too unwieldy than the more centralized media of the past. Free speech is also a lot better than the government telling us what we can and can't say or believe but there is also the legal theory that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Therefore, there are limits on free speech as handed down by the Supreme Court. Especially if you think an active crime is about to be committed.
By the way, JD Vance was a vocal dissident of Trump during the 2016 election cycle but has since got a Trump endorsement for his current Senate run.
Of course, there is also a very puzzling question of how to change society. Cultures tend to be organic and outside the realm of political and government control in America and other free societies. The issue of drug use and violent mass media have been discussed but how to change a culture is difficult. The internet tends to be a place that remains too unwieldy than the more centralized media of the past. Free speech is also a lot better than the government telling us what we can and can't say or believe but there is also the legal theory that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Therefore, there are limits on free speech as handed down by the Supreme Court. Especially if you think an active crime is about to be committed.
By the way, JD Vance was a vocal dissident of Trump during the 2016 election cycle but has since got a Trump endorsement for his current Senate run.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
7 Jun 2022 5:53 pm
When seconds count..the Uvalde Police will always be too **** gay to risk their necks for you.
Your best bet is to call a Local Militia Member with a AR-15....
Your best bet is to call a Local Militia Member with a AR-15....
7 Jun 2022 5:58 pm
GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑ When seconds count..the Uvalde Police will always be too **** gay to risk their necks for you.
Your best bet is to call a Local Militia Member with a AR-15....
The militia is the legal reason for the right to bear arms. They also probably weren't going to engage in law enforcement activities. .
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
7 Jun 2022 6:05 pm
When seconds count don't expect any of our POLITICALLY CORRECT / WOKE / *** / FEMALE POLICE to stick their necks out to save you.Monderegal » 07 Jun 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑ The militia is the legal reason for the right to bear arms. They also probably weren't going to engage in law enforcement activities. .
Your best bet is to hope that a BORDER PATROL AGENT WILL SHOW UP ON HIS DAY OFF AFTER DRIVING 40 MILES WITH A BORROWED WEAPON TO TAKE MATTERS INTO HIS OWN HANDS TO SAVE YOUR CHILDREN....
7 Jun 2022 6:24 pm
What a stupid thing to say....Monderegal » 07 Jun 2022, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑ The militia is the legal reason for the right to bear arms. They also probably weren't going to engage in law enforcement activities. .
If all else fails....put your money on someone like this to come to your aid instead of one of your GAY FRIENDS AT YOUR YOGA CLUB...
7 Jun 2022 6:33 pm
GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑ When seconds count..the Uvalde Police will always be too **** gay to risk their necks for you.
Your best bet is to call a Local Militia Member with a AR-15....
7 Jun 2022 7:15 pm
Where was that local militia?GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑ When seconds count..the Uvalde Police will always be too **** gay to risk their necks for you.
Your best bet is to call a Local Militia Member with a AR-15....
7 Jun 2022 7:20 pm
At their 9 to 5 jobs or not associated with any of the victims or both.
Any other stupid / butt hurt questions while you are at it...?
7 Jun 2022 8:30 pm
ANOTHER OF THE IDIOT RNC MILITIA LIES!
7 Jun 2022 8:40 pm
"9 to 5 jobs." Where was Stephen?GHETTOBLASTER » 07 Jun 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑ At their 9 to 5 jobs or not associated with any of the victims or both.
Any other stupid / butt hurt questions while you are at it...?
U stupid/butt hurt idiot & scumbag.
But, yes the cops maybe could have used the windows! When will that **** *** LIAR, GREG ABBOTT TELL HIS FELLOW TEXANS?
8 Jun 2022 5:50 am
THE TOPPER J7 OMA 1964
THE DEADLIEST "ASSAULT WEAPON" EVER MADE (FOR CHILDREN)
Mass shootings as a result: zero.
8 Jun 2022 10:10 am
LOOK AT U DISGUSTING TRUMPER SCUM DENYING THAT YOUR UNREGULATED MILITIAS OF **** AREN'T MURDERING CHILDREN!Buffalo » 08 Jun 2022, 5:50 am » wrote: ↑ THE TOPPER J7 OMA 1964
THE DEADLIEST "ASSAULT WEAPON" EVER MADE (FOR CHILDREN)
Mass shootings as a result: zero.
8 Jun 2022 10:21 am
They had their fingers up their arses, that's where...
Teacher throws self in front of students; police wait outside for bigger guns to arrive
Uvalde Mom Who Saved Kids From School Shooting Says Police Threatened Her
Federal Agents Reportedly Stormed Uvalde School After Local Cops Told Them To Wait | HuffPost Latest News
Gov. Greg Abbott’s Response to Uvalde Shooting Torched in Texas Paper Op-Ed: ‘A Powerful Man Does Nothing’
MEANWHILE:
Thousands protested outside NRA convention in Texas days after massacre in Uvalde
It's Time the NRA's Non-Profit Status is Revoked - UPDATED
TX-Gov: Watch Gov. Greg Abbott (R) Greeted With A Lot Of Loud Boos At Uvalde Memorial Site
Nicolle Wallace Brutally Fact Checks TX Gov. Abbott: We Are Not Gonna Let Him Gaslight Anybody
Lauren Boebert Vies for 'Dumbest Member of Congress' Title: 'We Didn’t Ban Planes' After 9/11?
NRA convention speakers and performers left in droves, but Trump doubled down
The hypocrisy of officials who blame mental illness for mass shootings.
Man Confronts Ted Cruz At Restaurant: '19 Dead Kids, That's On Your Hands' | HuffPost Latest News
8 Jun 2022 10:42 am
Nobody called. The cops should have.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
8 Jun 2022 11:09 am
Prove to me that ONE goddamn firearm killed a child!!! Someone had to pull the trigger, guns do not kill by themselves, idiot.supraTruth » 08 Jun 2022, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑ LOOK AT U DISGUSTING TRUMPER SCUM DENYING THAT YOUR UNREGULATED MILITIAS OF **** AREN'T MURDERING CHILDREN!
What is the break down of those children and teens by how they died, i.e. murder, suicide, accident...etc?
8 Jun 2022 11:20 am
Bsee just because you ended up being too much of an effeminately raised and cowardly *** to defend yourself and your neighbors doesn't mean that the normal people of this world need to be as pathetic and totally helpless as you are.B.See » 08 Jun 2022, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑Xavier_Onassis » Yesterday, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑
Yesterday, 5:15 pm
Where was that local militia?
8 Jun 2022 11:29 am
ALL BY GUNS, U **** SCUMBAG!Buffalo » 08 Jun 2022, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑ Prove to me that ONE goddamn firearm killed a child!!! Someone had to pull the trigger, guns do not kill by themselves, idiot.
What is the break down of those children and teens by how they died, i.e. murder, suicide, accident...etc?
8 Jun 2022 11:36 am
Guns do not kill, people kill, idiot!!!
8 Jun 2022 12:53 pm
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION, U SICK SON OF A BITCH,
8 Jun 2022 1:03 pm
NONE OF U **** TRUMPER SCUM HAVE THE GUTS TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAKE PANSY *** WORTHLESS THREATS.Pepperluciophobia » 08 Jun 2022, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Your fixing to get dentures if you keep running your pissflaps like that
JUST A BUNCH OF LOSERS THAT AMERICANS RIGHTFULLY DESPISE.
Who is online
In total there are 3836 users online :: 11 registered, 14 bots, and 3811 guests
Registered users: Vegas, *Roshambo, Buck Naked, Buffalo, ROG62, RebelGator, ConservativeWave, Beekeeper, SouthernFried, nefarious101, Huey
Bots: CensysInspect, MicroMessenger, CriteoBot, ADmantX, SiteLockSpider, facebookexternalhit, proximic, Disco, Mediapartners-Google, LCC, Googlebot, Applebot, curl/7, bingbot