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JD Vance says look at the complete picture on guns
JD Vance says look at the complete picture on guns
By Monderegal
7 Jun 2022 5:49 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
8 Jun 2022 4:35 pm
Vance gives no real advice here, other than to say that schools should have only one door and be protected by armed guards.
It is desirable to know more about causes of dissatisfaction in life that causes young people to buy a gun and murder oodles of children. But what is really important is that it is also necessary to address the problems after the murders and murderers have been analyzed and solutions to the problems implemented.
It is desirable to know more about causes of dissatisfaction in life that causes young people to buy a gun and murder oodles of children. But what is really important is that it is also necessary to address the problems after the murders and murderers have been analyzed and solutions to the problems implemented.
8 Jun 2022 6:48 pm
Like I expected something credible or legitimate outta of a Trump whore like you. I don't ask what you think because I have no interest in the seditionist white supremacist, sexist, racist **** that is banging around in the empty space between your ears.Huey » 08 Jun 2022, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑ You poll was completed in 2018 and released in Feb 2019.
The sample was overwhelmingly female, reflecting the overall teacher population, which is disproportionately made up of women.
High school teachers and professors in higher education settings made up approximately 60 percent
You haven’t asked what I think. it seems there was an over sampling in states perceived as liberal or anti gun.
Like a lower educated individual you keep talking about arming teachers and I want to arm teachers. You are framing the issues.
Now, my thoughts is in states where is legal if an teacher is properly trained, has a CCP, and meets any requirements of a particular state AND THEY WANT TO should be allowed to. Next time ASK what my position is BEFORE making a fool of yourself.
You are an old man. Stop getting yourself so worked up o ver your created talking point. Now carry on your misdirection, lies, and cuss words.
So interesting that we never hear you pissing and moaning about the filth coming out of Buffy, CP, **** or any of the rest of your ilk. It's your **** cohort puking up demands to arm teachers. Think it's ****? Tell them not me...you hypocrite wanker.
8 Jun 2022 7:12 pm
You ignorant dickhead!!! It worked/works in Israel. They have had 2 school shootings since arming the teachers in 1974!!!supraTruth » 08 Jun 2022, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑ U **** TRUMPER SCUM WON'T EVEN SUPPORT ARCHITECTURAL OR DRAFTING CLASSES OR WOOD SHOP ANYMORE OR EVEN PAY TEACHERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH, BUT NOW U WANT THEM TO HAVE GUNS THAT U WON'T PAY FOR! U WANT TEACHERS TO PAY FOR THEM? U WANT TEACHERS CARRYING THEM IN HOLSTERS IN FRONT OF CHILDREN?
SERIOUSLY, U **** TRUMPER SCUM ARE THE DUMBEST **** IN AMERICA EVER!
"A number of the families of the Stoneman Douglas victims have proposed arming teachers, though their calls haven’t gotten nearly as much media attention as the band of students calling for more strict gun control. Specifically, those proposing arming teachers are only proposing allowing those who are already armed to carry in the classroom, such as someone with a military or law enforcement background. In Israel, where everyone is required to serve in the military, this is already the case.
And the results? Spectacular. When terrorists attacked a school in Maalot in 1974, instead of declaring every school a gun-free zone, Israel passed a law mandating armed security in schools, provided weapons training to teachers, and, even today, runs frequent active shooter drills. There have been only two school shootings since then, and both have ended with teachers killing the terrorists.'
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/israel-armed-teachers/
8 Jun 2022 7:38 pm
BUT ISRAEL IS A SOCIALIST NATION WILLING TO PAY THE COSTS! HOW ABOUT U, DICK HEAD?Buffalo » 08 Jun 2022, 7:12 pm » wrote: ↑ You ignorant dickhead!!! It worked/works in Israel. They have had 2 school shootings since arming the teachers in 1974!!!
"A number of the families of the Stoneman Douglas victims have proposed arming teachers, though their calls haven’t gotten nearly as much media attention as the band of students calling for more strict gun control. Specifically, those proposing arming teachers are only proposing allowing those who are already armed to carry in the classroom, such as someone with a military or law enforcement background. In Israel, where everyone is required to serve in the military, this is already the case.
And the results? Spectacular. When terrorists attacked a school in Maalot in 1974, instead of declaring every school a gun-free zone, Israel passed a law mandating armed security in schools, provided weapons training to teachers, and, even today, runs frequent active shooter drills. There have been only two school shootings since then, and both have ended with teachers killing the terrorists.'
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/israel-armed-teachers/
9 Jun 2022 2:57 am
Wrong, dingbat!!!supraTruth » 08 Jun 2022, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑ BUT ISRAEL IS A SOCIALIST NATION WILLING TO PAY THE COSTS! HOW ABOUT U, DICK HEAD?
"The Zionist historical record needs to be corrected: the economic foundation of the State of Israel is not based on socialism...
Professor Katz has done a great service to correct the historical record on the issue of Israel's true economic origins and roots. Socialists didn't redeem the land of Israel; capitalists and private entrepreneurship did."
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/337330
9 Jun 2022 3:59 am
ALL BY YOUNG PEOPLE, dumb **** asshole !
I never heard of a gun entering some joint on its own and start killing people !
9 Jun 2022 4:07 am
I think you **** liar deliberately omitted / ignored the fact that teachers only carry a concealed weapon after a police-style training and on a VOLUNTARY basis !IkeBana » 08 Jun 2022, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑ . . . a classroom teacher who didn't want the gun in the first place.
But keep lying and making an asshole of yourself . . . asshole !
9 Jun 2022 4:16 am
So how much should teachers be paid . . . considering most Dem teachers get their rewards by molesting little kids ?supraTruth » 08 Jun 2022, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑ SO, ANOTHER TRUMPER SCUMBAG WHO BELIEVES TEACHERS ARE PAID TOO MUCH & WANTS THEM TO BUY & CARRY GUNS IN THE CLASSROOMS!
9 Jun 2022 4:20 am
You must be a turd then, to want to stick around ?
9 Jun 2022 4:31 am
Well, I'd rather have ONLY female teachers !Huey » 08 Jun 2022, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑ The sample was overwhelmingly female, reflecting the overall teacher population, which is disproportionately made up of women.
That would give me a better feeling of safety for my kids.
I've fond memories of my female teachers . . . not so much of my males ones !
A female teacher never raised her hand on me . . . a male one did, repeatedly.
May be a personal thing . . . I don't know !
Different generation . . .
9 Jun 2022 4:34 am
Blah Blah Blah BlahXavier_Onassis » 08 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑ Vance gives no real advice here, other than to say that schools should have only one door and be protected by armed guards.
It is desirable to know more about causes of dissatisfaction in life that causes young people to buy a gun and murder oodles of children. But what is really important is that it is also necessary to address the problems after the murders and murderers have been analyzed and solutions to the problems implemented.
9 Jun 2022 5:18 am
IkeBana » 08 Jun 2022, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑ Like I expected something credible or legitimate outta of a Trump whore like you. I don't ask what you think because I have no interest in the seditionist white supremacist, sexist, racist **** that is banging around in the empty space between your ears.
So interesting that we never hear you pissing and moaning about the filth coming out of Buffy, CP, **** or any of the rest of your ilk. It's your **** cohort puking up demands to arm teachers. Think it's ****? Tell them not me...you hypocrite wanker.
Youre a **** troll. And not very good at it.
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9 Jun 2022 8:45 am
9 Jun 2022 8:52 am
You are a typical anti-gun idiot. Always wanting to take guns away from legal, law abiding gun owners.Xavier_Onassis » 09 Jun 2022, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑ If we want to end SHOOTINGS, then fewer guns is what we need.
How about fewer criminals and crazy people?
9 Jun 2022 8:59 am
Monderegal » 07 Jun 2022, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑ JD Vance is a Republican candidate but I like his thoughts on the Uvadle mass shooting. The Hillbilly Elegy author (a book I should have read years ago) says that there is a need to look at the complete picture when it comes to gun violence. The problem isn't just guns. Yes, that is an issue that needs to be seriously discussed in my opinion. However, trends like the decline of the family and other norms that prevented this sort of barbarity in the past. He also seems to be playing only one side on this tweet. Perhaps it's more of an all of the above when it comes to gun violence. Here is the tweet.
Of course, there is also a very puzzling question of how to change society. Cultures tend to be organic and outside the realm of political and government control in America and other free societies. The issue of drug use and violent mass media have been discussed but how to change a culture is difficult. The internet tends to be a place that remains too unwieldy than the more centralized media of the past. Free speech is also a lot better than the government telling us what we can and can't say or believe but there is also the legal theory that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Therefore, there are limits on free speech as handed down by the Supreme Court. Especially if you think an active crime is about to be committed.
By the way, JD Vance was a vocal dissident of Trump during the 2016 election cycle but has since got a Trump endorsement for his current Senate run.
jd vance is an *** who said poor white people deserve to suffer
9 Jun 2022 9:00 am
The problem is mass shootings.JinnMartini » 09 Jun 2022, 3:59 am » wrote: ↑ ALL BY YOUNG PEOPLE, dumb **** asshole !
I never heard of a gun entering some joint on its own and start killing people !
I never heard of an unarmed fool entering a classroom and shooting a bunch of children, and neither have you.
If the problem is unwanted shootings, then stop allowing crazy people to buy guns to shoot with.
9 Jun 2022 9:13 am
Look, retarded Cuban asshole, if the bloke is an "unarmed fool" how can he "enter" a classroom and shoot a bunch of children ?Xavier_Onassis » 09 Jun 2022, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑ I never heard of an unarmed fool entering a classroom and shooting a bunch of children . . .
He has no gun . . . he's unarmed, remember ?
9 Jun 2022 9:17 am
Nope !Xavier_Onassis » 09 Jun 2022, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑ If we want to end SHOOTINGS, then fewer guns is what we need.
More guns in the right hands is what we need !
9 Jun 2022 9:25 am
Why yes, you are beginning to understand. The problem is that the only way to actually kill dozens of innocent children in a short time is with a gun.JinnMartini » 09 Jun 2022, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑ Look, retarded Cuban asshole, if the bloke is an "unarmed fool" how can he "enter" a classroom and shoot a bunch of children ?
He has no gun . . . he's unarmed, remember ?
The idiot governor of Texas passed a law allowing that specific assassin to buy that specific AR-15 that he used to kill those children.
The least we can do is make is illegal for teenage crazies to purchase military weapons.
Imagine how hard it would have been for this guy to kill that many kids with a machete, a chainsaw, a slingshot, a switchblade.
If we want fewer shootings, then fewer guns is the clear solution.
9 Jun 2022 9:32 am
Federal Law allows 18 year olds to buy rifles and shotguns.Xavier_Onassis » 09 Jun 2022, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑Why yes, you are beginning to understand. The problem is that the only way to actually kill dozens of innocent children in a short time is with a gun.JinnMartini » 09 Jun 2022, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑ Look, retarded Cuban asshole, if the bloke is an "unarmed fool" how can he "enter" a classroom and shoot a bunch of children ?
He has no gun . . . he's unarmed, remember ?
The idiot governor of Texas passed a law allowing that specific assassin to buy that specific AR-15 that he used to kill those children.
The least we can do is make is illegal for teenage crazies to purchase military weapons.
Imagine how hard it would have been for this guy to kill that many kids with a machete, a chainsaw, a slingshot, a switchblade.
If we want fewer shootings, then fewer guns is the clear solution.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-cu ... n-licensee
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