Liberal Forum

I was watching an old rerun of Dick Cavett where he interviewed Walter Cronkrite at his seaside vacation home. 
Cavett asked Cronkite about his political affiliation and Cronkite who was a news journalist more or less stated
that he was a liberal, but it in a very concise way. 
And I paraphrase:
Well, I'm conservative in the old sense of the word, thinking about things that have worked in the past that made sense, 
But I'm always thinking about where things have gone wrong, I think marijuana, something I've never tried, should
be made legal, or at least it should be decriminalized. I've covered wars, Vietnam was very wrong, I think we 
should be far less ideological and focus more on decency and respect for our fellow man. Oh I suppose you
would say I was a liberal in many respects. I try to be the first to admit when I'm wrong. 

This was an interview that took place in the early 1970's. When Walter Cronkite was American's most trusted
newsman. I was a teenager back then, and I miss that straight forward trusted way about the news, when it 
wasn't about ratings. 

Cronkite was aware of ratings back then, no question about it. We have great journalist today, he would say.
We still do. The thing is, sadly, too many folks believe in nonsense delivered by folks like the deceased Rush Limbaugh, Fox nonsense, and etc... 
When things go wrong, it becomes conspiracy theory. 
Obviously inflation his high, but the pandemic is the cause, the global supply chain is and was a disaster waiting to happen, 
and the US continues to be misguided regarding wrongful wars and military actions. 
The last thing we need is a new cold war with China that would inevitably cause trillions of dollars, especially
considering the existential threat of climate change and our disastrous dependents of fossil fuels, including plastics.

We should always precede with at least some sense of moderation, and sure, some of that olden day conservatism, but not neoliberalism - which should be differentiated from conservatism, in that neo-liberalism which began with Reagan relies on supply side economics, destruction of democratic governmental institutions, 
and a misdirection of global economics for the sake of a non-regulated corporate controlled profiteering that directly created increased inequality and a destruction of social policies. or actual progress which was created by the New Deal. 

 
 

Diversity fails

SJConspirator » 16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm

Diversity fails

An analogy I think of when the topic arises:

When you mix all the colors of paint together you basically end up with a quasi-black color.
When you mix all the colors of light together you basically end up with white light.

The moral of the story is that there's no guarantee or certainty in this diversity thing.
People that push the "diversity is strength" crap are (at best) right only 50% of the time.
The other 50% is completely missing the target.

...and that's being optimistic.

SJConspirator » 16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm

Diversity fails

Being as the US is a diverse country and always has been, then the US is a failure according to SJConspirator.
What does SJ mean?  Society of Jesus?

Xavier_Onassis » 06 Mar 2023, 6:40 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2023, 6:40 pm

Being as the US is a diverse country and always has been, then the US is a failure according to SJConspirator.
What does SJ mean?  Society of Jesus?

Social justice !

DeezerShoove » 19 Feb 2023, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:45 am

An analogy I think of when the topic arises:

When you mix all the colors of paint together you basically end up with a quasi-black color.
When you mix all the colors of light together you basically end up with white light.

The moral of the story is that there's no guarantee or certainty in this diversity thing.
People that push the "diversity is strength" crap are (at best) right only 50% of the time.
The other 50% is completely missing the target.

...and that's being optimistic.

To me it’s just a fact that we are a diverse country, doing that diverse country experiment thing, there no way to stop it now

that ship sailed long ago (see what I did there?)

IMHO complaining about diversity in America is like complaining that water is wet

just another distraction to keep us all busy fighting 

again … this country’s **** 
 

Mrkelly » 20 Mar 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023, 12:53 pm

To me it’s just a fact that we are a diverse country, doing that diverse country experiment thing, there no way to stop it now

that ship sailed long ago (see what I did there?)

IMHO complaining about diversity in America is like complaining that water is wet

just another distraction to keep us all busy fighting 

again … this country’s ****

When you say "This country"s ****",
you are placing yourself squarely in the middle of the people to whom you just referred.

This is not twisting anything either. I don't need to get that reply...
You've stayed on the diversity topic,
identified it as problematic (whatever the reasons for that),
and now complained.

DeezerShoove » 20 Mar 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023, 1:10 pm

When you say "This country"s ****",
you are placing yourself squarely in the middle of the people to whom you just referred.

This is not twisting anything either. I don't need to get that reply...
You've stayed on the diversity topic,
identified it as problematic (whatever the reasons for that),
and now complained.

never said diversity was problematic , or complained … where?

I said diverse is what this country is , and to complain about it is just silly 

and a waste of time

the reason I said we are **** is, we will continue to argue over stupid **** instead of getting anything done 


 

Mrkelly » 20 Mar 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023, 2:26 pm

never said diversity was problematic , or complained … where?

I said diverse is what this country is , and to complain about it is just silly 

and a waste of time

the reason I said we are **** is, we will continue to argue over stupid **** instead of getting anything done

Saying we're **** is not exactly a compliment or congratulations.
Topic was diversity and you complained. There's a connection.
Not a big deal...
But don't turn it into the chatroom foible of doing exactly what you're complaining about.
 

SJConspirator » 16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 5:46 pm

Diversity fails

What utter nonsense!

Diversity must prevail, because we live in a country with a diverse population on a diverse planet.