Labor unions
By SJConspirator
21 Jul 2022 8:02 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
21 Jul 2022 8:02 am
In every country, there is a direct correlation between the prosperity and well being of the public and the percentage of workforce that is unionized. This FACT can be shown by data upon request.
So for those who oppose unions like Skans, I must ask : what is it about prosperity that you hate?
So for those who oppose unions like Skans, I must ask : what is it about prosperity that you hate?
21 Jul 2022 8:25 am
I think you will find that where this is true, there is a high value placed on education. And education is recognized as being both academic and technical.SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑ In every country, there is a direct correlation between the prosperity and well being of the public and the percentage of workforce that is unionized. This FACT can be shown by data upon request.
So for those who oppose unions like Skans, I must ask : what is it about prosperity that you hate?
The result is an economy well positioned to supply "high value add" products to export markets.
In less developed economies, unions can certainly accelerate the distribution of "national income", but if the product they generate are commodities, unions can become sources of financial (and economic) inflexibility - like the domestic agriculture sectors of small advanced economies.
21 Jul 2022 9:01 am
SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑ In every country, there is a direct correlation between the prosperity and well being of the public and the percentage of workforce that is unionized. This FACT can be shown by data upon request.
So for those who oppose unions like Skans, I must ask : what is it about prosperity that you hate?
@Skans is one of those midwits whose positions are prescritpive, rather than descriptive.
He's too stupid to understand what that means, so I will break it down.
Prescriptive positions are taken based on some set of beliefs - a pre-approved, pre-adopted template, so to speak. Descriptive positions are taken based on realities on the ground. A good example of the dichotomy is when you talk animal welfare with most libertarians. Their prescriptive view is that since animals have no rights to violate, animal cruelty laws = overstep. My descriptive view is that any and all cruelty to animals is a breach of the peace, since a normal, ordinary man would feel compelled to kick you in the nuts for that ****. Ergo, animal cruelty laws =/= overstep.
Anyway, he slobbers about unions because he's stupid - and his template says they are "bad," no matter WHAT history shows to be so. The fact that the "greatest generation" was extremely supportive of unions causes the lickspittle no cognitive disonance - he will lick their balls while disagreeing with everything they believed, and think himself quite "patriotic."
He's been conditioned to screech about china and cuba when the word "union" comes up - he has ruined a number of weddings with his pavlovian ranting and frothing. Slowly he turns, step by step , inch by inch...
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jul 2022 9:05 am
Quizlet rocks.Blackvegetable » 21 Jul 2022, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ I think you will find that where this is true, there is a high value placed on education. And education is recognized as being both academic and technical.
The result is an economy well positioned to supply "high value add" products to export markets.
In less developed economies, unions can certainly accelerate the distribution of "national income", but if the product they generate are commodities, unions can become sources of financial (and economic) inflexibility - like the domestic agriculture sectors of small advanced economies.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jul 2022 9:06 am
Cannonpointer » 21 Jul 2022, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑ @Skans is one of those midwits whose positions are prescritpive, rather than descriptive.
He's too stupid to understand what that means, so I will break it down.
Prescriptive positions are taken based on some set of beliefs - a pre-approved, pre-adopted template, so to speak. Descriptive positions are taken based on realities on the ground. A good example of the dichotomy is when you talk animal welfare with most libertarians. Their prescriptive view is that since animals have no rights to violate, animal cruelty laws = overstep. My descriptive view is that any and all cruelty to animals is a breach of the peace, since a normal, ordinary man would feel compelled to kick you in the nuts for that ****. Ergo, animal cruelty laws =/= overstep.
Anyway, he slobbers about unions because he's stupid - and his template says they are "bad," no matter WHAT history shows to be so. The fact that the "greatest generation" was extremely supportive of unions causes the lickspittle no cognitive disonance - he will lick their balls while disagreeing with everything they believed, and think himself quite "patriotic."
He's been conditioned to screech about china and cuba when the word "union" comes up - he has ruined a number of weddings with his pavlovian ranting and frothing. Slowly he turns, step by step , inch by inch...
Its fascinating to see because he is obviously intelligent, but utterly controlled by his own delusions. The capacity of the mind to maintain faith despite mountains of evidence against it
21 Jul 2022 9:10 am
He's just a lazy, entitled **** is my guess.SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑ Its fascinating to see because he is obviously intelligent, but utterly controlled by his own delusions. The capacity of the mind to maintain faith despite mountains of evidence against it
So MANY of those arrogant fruitcakes are dying. I'm convinced that a broad swath of tardville is so entitled they believe their government and corporations would not DARE...
In their arrogance, they felt perfectly safe experimenting with drugs. And now, their graves beckon.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jul 2022 9:17 am
21 Jul 2022 9:24 am
NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!!!!
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
21 Jul 2022 9:26 am
21 Jul 2022 9:26 am
Blackvegetable » 21 Jul 2022, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ I think you will find that where this is true, there is a high value placed on education. And education is recognized as being both academic and technical.
The result is an economy well positioned to supply "high value add" products to export markets.
In less developed economies, unions can certainly accelerate the distribution of "national income", but if the product they generate are commodities, unions can become sources of financial (and economic) inflexibility - like the domestic agriculture sectors of small advanced economies.
okay this went over my head a bit. How do unions make a country “inflexible”
21 Jul 2022 9:28 am
That’s quite the loaded question . Assuming facts a priori not in evidence - that millions of union members don’t like unions.. highly unlikely.Warcok » 21 Jul 2022, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑ Gonna have to ask the millions of former union members what it is about unions they don't like.
have you stopped beating your kids yet?
21 Jul 2022 9:32 am
Why has membership dropped dramatically over the past 50 years?SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑ That’s quite the loaded question . Assuming facts a priori not in evidence - that millions of union members don’t like unions.. highly unlikely.
have you stopped beating your kids yet?
21 Jul 2022 9:34 am
Warcok » 21 Jul 2022, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑ Why has membership dropped dramatically over the past 50 years?
propaganda such as this, which you seem to be a prime gullible target for
https://youtu.be/AQeGBHxIyHw
21 Jul 2022 9:36 am
Look at Agriculture Sectors in N. Europe.SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑ okay this went over my head a bit. How do unions make a country “inflexible”
Producing food domestically is both a cultural and national security issue. However, food is not (relatively) abundant and cheap because the world relied on domestic markets. It is so because logistics have improved to the point where food produced in areas of greatest natural advantage can now be delivered globally.
So what happens to the market for locally grown agricultural product in France, for example, when it is far cheaper to import wheat from Ukraine, and fruit and vegetables from North Africa? They require some form of price protection to remain in business. This raises costs for french consumers, and when negotiations break down, the conflicts can tie up large parts of the country at considerable economic cost.
21 Jul 2022 9:40 am
Blackvegetable » 21 Jul 2022, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑ Look at Agriculture Sectors in N. Europe.
Producing food domestically is both a cultural and national security issue. However, food is not (relatively) abundant and cheap because the world relied on domestic markets. It is so because logistics have improved to the point where food produced in areas of greatest natural advantage can now be delivered globally.
So what happens to the market for locally grown agricultural product in France, for example, when it is far cheaper to import wheat from Ukraine, and fruit and vegetables from North Africa? They require some form of price protection to remain in business. This raises costs for french consumers, and when negotiations break down, the conflicts can tie up large parts of the country at considerable economic cost.
you are such a globalist shill. You are good at defending the indefensible
21 Jul 2022 9:46 am
Warcok » 21 Jul 2022, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑ Why has membership dropped dramatically over the past 50 years?
still waiting for a response
21 Jul 2022 9:50 am
post #13 , Magellan
I was kind enough to humor your second unsupported assumption, that labor membership has dropped dramatically. You're welcome
21 Jul 2022 9:52 am
Why are you such a reflexive ****?SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑ you are such a globalist shill. You are good at defending the indefensible
You asked, I politely accommodated.
Now you bitch.
As I always ask
"What is EVER in it for me?"
I grew up in N. Europe...I know what it is like to eat brussel sprouts all winter because that's what you got out of greenhouses in the winter in N. Europe. How about canned potatoes? Been there, done that, hated them.
My stepfather's ancestral estate went the way of the Dodo in the 1970s because you couldn't get enough selling the product to pay the taxes. If that has a familiar ring to you, it should.
This is Reality, Sport....not the mental onanism in which you are inclined to indulge.
21 Jul 2022 9:57 am
Not sure what country you're from, but in the United States union membership has dropped dramatically over the decades.SJConspirator » 21 Jul 2022, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑ post #13 , Magellan
I was kind enough to humor your second unsupported assumption, that labor membership has dropped dramatically. You're welcome
21 Jul 2022 10:07 am
Warcok » 21 Jul 2022, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑ Not sure what country you're from, but in the United States union membership has dropped dramatically over the decades.
Hey Christopher Columbus, did you find post #13?
There is a video there.. check it out
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