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What is intelligence?
By Monderegal
10 Aug 2022 12:29 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
10 Aug 2022 12:29 pm
Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
10 Aug 2022 12:37 pm
A person can increase his IQ score through mental training. However, a person's intelligence is pretty-much ingrained in his/her mental infrastructure at birth. That person can waste his/her God-given talent, or sharpen it to make the most of it.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
10 Aug 2022 12:38 pm
the ability to navigate in real time evenly with acting in character of relative time logistics denying now is eternity and biology sustains eternal separation of ancestors occupying space specifically here.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
Serenity of understanding how, why, what, where, wehn, which, ancestors occupied space since inception of one's own species and ancestral lineage that accounts for all living things ancestrally arranged in the atmosphere prior, curing, after one's cycle being alive now..
Reality offers 7 hope, faith, charity, power, wealth, fame, tomorrow when everyone sacrifices understanding self evident displacement being alive now.
10 Aug 2022 12:42 pm
intelligence itself is a rather vague word and open to interpretation.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
the IQ test itself has a measurable value known as g, which basically represents across the board performance on the test...e.g. a highly stratified score will have little impact on g. the measure g seems to correspond most to what we intuitively consider 'intelligence'.
g has also been demonstrated as the most genetically heritable part of the iq test.
IQ has been studied in tremendous depth. there are a LOT of studies and literature on this general subject and it is not philosophy...it is science. Unfortunately the results of the science seems to make liberals cry, so there is some fake 'controversy' about it. but you can go ahead and read what the scientists have actually discovered about iq and g etc. There is no replication crisis in this field. it is very highly predictive.
sure, it is sortof like athletics. people can be gifted in general but in order to be very good at something you do need training. FOr the most part g determines how long it takes to undergo this training, not so much what your plateau is. (whereas athletic ability is somewhat the opposite)
10 Aug 2022 12:48 pm
That is what it was defined to represent, not how it works individually alive. to prepare for the future one has to experience evolving past and current conditions and limitations of those conditions everyone is equally existing within here as compounding ancestral results never same form shaped upon arrival as departed and not the same shape as died to decomposed.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
Series parallel energy flow with ever changing details equal to contracting results never duplicated here or anywhere else.. Intelligence doesn't follow faith real isn't real. People not wanting to know life inside out do creating realities defined by rule of law defending ideologies outside in.
10 Aug 2022 1:02 pm
FOS » 10 Aug 2022, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑ intelligence itself is a rather vague word and open to interpretation.
the IQ test itself has a measurable value known as g, which basically represents across the board performance on the test...e.g. a highly stratified score will have little impact on g. the measure g seems to correspond most to what we intuitively consider 'intelligence'.
g has also been demonstrated as the most genetically heritable part of the iq test.
IQ has been studied in tremendous depth. there are a LOT of studies and literature on this general subject and it is not philosophy...it is science. Unfortunately the results of the science seems to make liberals cry, so there is some fake 'controversy' about it. but you can go ahead and read what the scientists have actually discovered about iq and g etc. There is no replication crisis in this field. it is very highly predictive.
sure, it is sortof like athletics. people can be gifted in general but in order to be very good at something you do need training. FOr the most part g determines how long it takes to undergo this training, not so much what your plateau is. (whereas athletic ability is somewhat the opposite)
Well perhaps IQ is a science but the broader way we conceptualize intelligence is a question of either philosophy or psychology. For instance, can AI have intelligence? Certainly you can say AI can be intelligent and programed to a high level of IQ. Still, it's programed and so is all its intelligent merit its programing. That's the psychology and philosophy of intelligence.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
10 Aug 2022 1:11 pm
circle logic in a death spiral ^^^^^^^^^^.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Well perhaps IQ is a science but the broader way we conceptualize intelligence is a question of either philosophy or psychology. For instance, can AI have intelligence? Certainly you can say AI can be intelligent and programed to a high level of IQ. Still, it's programed and so is all its intelligent merit its programing. That's the psychology and philosophy of intelligence.
10 Aug 2022 1:27 pm
Intelligence is a capacity to learn and apply knowledge, wisdom is gained from experience. Some of the most intelligent people often seem to have blind spots, they lack wisdom in certain areas. I do believe that Intelligence unchallenged will atrophy.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
10 Aug 2022 1:28 pm
Tru intelligence is a blend of IQ - ability to quickly grasp and understand things an EQ - the ability to place information within the proper context. (Interpret).Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Just to get off the topic of politics for a second I would like to get a bit more philosophical. What is intelligence? Is it simply an innate property measured by IQ? Or is it a product of the right upbringing and training? Further more, perhaps it is like athletics where you may be gifted but the best training also helps mold your skills?
One without the other leads to deficiencies.
10 Aug 2022 2:47 pm
Intelligence is what liberals do not have !
In fact they're totally ignorant of the concept !
10 Aug 2022 2:57 pm
What do you mean by death spiral? I know you speak somewhat philosophically.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
10 Aug 2022 3:08 pm
Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Well perhaps IQ is a science but the broader way we conceptualize intelligence is a question of either philosophy or psychology. For instance, can AI have intelligence? Certainly you can say AI can be intelligent and programed to a high level of IQ. Still, it's programed and so is all its intelligent merit its programing. That's the psychology and philosophy of intelligence.
humans are probably programmed also. But our programming is based on hundreds of millions of years of increasing the reproductive fitness of a DNA strand. We ultimately have a given purpose...even if we think it is a petty and irrelevant purpose it IS our purpose.
That is actually necessary for intelligence to exist. Some irrational purpose. A perfectly logical machine is FIRST going to ask itself why it should bother using energy to think about anything at all, and never have an answer. This is why sentient AI will never exist.
10 Aug 2022 3:16 pm
FOS » 10 Aug 2022, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑ humans are probably programmed also. But our programming is based on hundreds of millions of years of increasing the reproductive fitness of a DNA strand. We ultimately have a given purpose...even if we think it is a petty and irrelevant purpose it IS our purpose.
That is actually necessary for intelligence to exist. Some irrational purpose. A perfectly logical machine is FIRST going to ask itself why it should bother using energy to think about anything at all, and never have an answer. This is why sentient AI will never exist.
I'm a little confused. Purpose? How does that apply to intelligence?
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.
10 Aug 2022 3:38 pm
Okay, seriously now !
"Intelligence" is the capability of an organism, creature etc. etc. etc. to live without polluting the place they live in with toxic waste !
10 Aug 2022 3:45 pm
human intellectual whirlpool of doubt destroying the ability to understand life in plain sight as each reality games people against their own kind as much as each other.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑ What do you mean by death spiral? I know you speak somewhat philosophically.
10 Aug 2022 3:56 pm
What utterly STOOPID crap you post.JinnMartini » 10 Aug 2022, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Intelligence is what liberals do not have !
In fact they're totally ignorant of the concept !
10 Aug 2022 4:00 pm
Notch above anything you deliver.
10 Aug 2022 4:00 pm
Thanks for proving me right !
10 Aug 2022 4:02 pm
In the case of omh, it means that he likes to hear the two words "death spiral" used together.Monderegal » 10 Aug 2022, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑ What do you mean by death spiral? I know you speak somewhat philosophically.
Intelligence is not a science, it is a mental ability. There are a number of different aspects of intelligence.
The ability to recall related facts is one, the ability to distinguish between logical and illogical statements is another.
Talent in creating music, artwork and literature is another. IQ tests measure some, but certainly not all of these.
10 Aug 2022 4:03 pm
You proved ME right, fool.
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