Skans » 12 Aug 2022, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑ Of course. The only thing I'd say in response to that statement is that where there has been mixing of the races, it's not so easy to correlate intelligence with race.
I assume that you are referring to genetic markers that correlate to either high or low intelligence. Probably not "average" intelligence. Still, genetics does not explain at all the framework of high intelligence. The cause, (or result of a disease/condition which causes) low intelligence can actually be observed directly in many (not all) instances. But, what about high intelligence? I do not believe, or at least I have not read anything which actually maps out the chemical/neural connections which defines high intelligence, or even distinguishes between high average and average intelligence. It's there, it has to be!
Monderegal » 12 Aug 2022, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑ I'm claiming we are all human. We have certain God given rights and facilities. Iq can be bastardized too.
List of people considered father or mother of a scientific field - WikipediaXavier_Onassis » 12 Aug 2022, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑ Nazis thought their science taught them actual genetics, but of course, they know zilch about DNA and RNA and thought that blond hair, blue eyes and a pale skin were signs of the superiority of the "Aryan race".
Aryan comes from the same word as "Iran", and a majority of Iranians are rarely blond or blue eyed. Nazi science was bunk.
Schools used to use IQ tests as a way to see if a child qualified for SPECIAL NEEDS or not.FOS » 12 Aug 2022, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑ Even the people who dislike the implications are admitting that we can get dna from iq. Here's just the top result from a lazy Google search https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/0 ... -take-one/
Government is necessary to protect God given rights. That is one of its main purposes. It doesn't matter how well you play chess.FOS » 12 Aug 2022, 1:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Humans are human. SO what lol. If 'rights' came from god the government would be unnecessary. and i dunno what 'facilities' you speak of but trust me...you cannot teach everyone how to achieve a master chess rating
Is a 400 point SAT BONUS and GOVERNMENT HIRING PREFERENCE A GOD GIVEN RIGHT...?Monderegal » 12 Aug 2022, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Government is necessary to protect God given rights. That is one of its main purposes. It doesn't matter how well you play chess.
Monderegal » 12 Aug 2022, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Government is necessary to protect God given rights. That is one of its main purposes. It doesn't matter how well you play chess.
Well, my views on that are complicated. I will try my best but you need to bear with me.FOS » 13 Aug 2022, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑ So in other words they are state given rights. and you know...i just dont even believe you. If you pretend all people are equally intelligent, i am just going to say you are lying and not even you believe that
Bad reputations are never just handed out..they are always very well earned.Monderegal » 13 Aug 2022, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑ Well, my views on that are complicated. I will try my best but you need to bear with me.
Capitalism is the most perfect structure of an economy as was proved by the failure of Socialism. Still, the winners have an obligation to those less fortunate and that would probably include the black community. It means that opportunity should be available for those at a disadvantage. There are noteworthy success stories in the black community and the race to the top for the best and brightest can leave many behind. Governments have a duty in my estimation to at least try to fight some of the injustices that exist.
There are a mix of factors at play. Innate ability also feeds into culture. You can't just write off the less fortunate even while you should reward those who strive and work to become successful. This opportunity should be offered to everyone and the notion that you can neglect and write off a race as inferior and to the point that even their lives don't matter. This is probably the worrying trend in American society and it makes me want to push back against such notions.
I was a basketball player in high school and had mostly black friends. I know the level of injustice that exists between the white and black community. How well you play chess is a factor in a somewhat fashion. Relegating hatred and lack of opportunity to an entire race is something I have also felt first hand. Trust me, you don't want to be black in America.
Monderegal » 13 Aug 2022, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑ Well, my views on that are complicated. I will try my best but you need to bear with me.
Capitalism is the most perfect structure of an economy as was proved by the failure of Socialism. Still, the winners have an obligation to those less fortunate and that would probably include the black community. It means that opportunity should be available for those at a disadvantage. There are noteworthy success stories in the black community and the race to the top for the best and brightest can leave many behind. Governments have a duty in my estimation to at least try to fight some of the injustices that exist.
There are a mix of factors at play. Culture also plays a factor. You also can't just write off the less fortunate even while you should reward those who strive and work to become successful. This opportunity should be offered to everyone and the notion that you can neglect and write off a race as inferior In Americans society today it has seemed to reach the point that even their lives don't matter. This is probably the worrying trend in American society and it makes me want to push back against such notions.
I was a basketball player in high school and had mostly black friends. I know the level of injustice that exists between the white and black community. How well you play chess is a factor in a somewhat fashion. Relegating hatred and lack of opportunity to an entire race is something I have also felt first hand. Trust me, you don't want to be black in America.
To me intelligence is.. figuring things out.ScottMon » 13 Aug 2022, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑ I have a very simple way of looking at it. Intelligence isn't how good you are at answering questions, Its how good you are at asking questions.
Intellectual Fantasy ^^^^^^^^^Monderegal » 12 Aug 2022, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Government is necessary to protect God given rights. That is one of its main purposes. It doesn't matter how well you play chess.
THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD YOUR ALGEBRA TEACHER WHEN SHE TOLD YOU THAT YOU GOT A ZERO ON THE TESTScottMon » 13 Aug 2022, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑. Intelligence isn't how good you are at answering questions, Its how good you are at asking questions.