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The attack on fossil fuels is also driving up electricity prices. 

So your government subsidized electric car is not only not saving on carbon emissions, it’s also driving up home heating/cooling costs. 

You ducking stupid greenies!

Independent » 23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm

The attack on fossil fuels is also driving up electricity prices. 

So your government subsidized electric car is not only not saving on carbon emissions, it’s also driving up home heating/cooling costs. 

You ducking stupid greenies!

This study say e10 fuel is the most energy efficient. it’s a biofuel most used in the UK right now. 

https://energycentral.com/c/ec/comparis ... c-vehicles

https://bookmygarage.com/blog/what-is-e10-fuel/
 

Independent » 23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm

The attack on fossil fuels is also driving up electricity prices. 

So your government subsidized electric car is not only not saving on carbon emissions, it’s also driving up home heating/cooling costs. 

You ducking stupid greenies!

Solar power is free once you install the panels.  And there is plenty of it.  
 

Morocco is solar paneling their piece of the Sahara.

Pastafarian » 23 Aug 2022, 4:18 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 4:18 pm

This study say e10 fuel is the most energy efficient. it’s a biofuel most used in the UK right now. 

https://energycentral.com/c/ec/comparis ... c-vehicles

https://bookmygarage.com/blog/what-is-e10-fuel/

It takes twice as much ethanol as it does gasoline to drive the same distance.
So 10 gallons of a 90 / 10 mix of gas to ethanol will take a 20 mpg car 190 miles ..instead of the 200 miles that you would expect to travel with 100% gasoline.
"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS  "FREE LUNCH"
Traditionally the corn stalks are ground up and returned to the soil..to replenish the land for next years crop.
What happens to the nutritional value of the stalks when the sugars are extracted for ethanol ...?
 
 

Independent » 23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 3:21 pm

The attack on fossil fuels is also driving up electricity prices. 

You have NO PROOF of this.

So your government subsidized electric car is not only not saving on carbon emissions, it’s also driving up home heating/cooling costs. 

You ducking stupid greenies!
 

I don't own an electric car, but you know nothing and are only causing people to wonder how you managed to stay so ignorant for so long.
 

ScottMon » 23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm

Solar power is free once you install the panels.  And there is plenty of it.

As usual you sound like somone who speaks from a position of considerable experience and know how.

conservation: ration electric consumption. low price for basic needs. then shoot up the price. until there is a surplus of electricity. this will save the earths breathable air. when i was young, people wore clothes to keep warm.

ScottMon » 23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm

Solar power is free once you install the panels.  And there is plenty of it.

You silly goose. we get 3 feet of snow dumped on us in  a week... Cant keep the snow off the roof or the side of the house. Plus days of no sun!
and my electric bill went up 40 percent this year.. you greenies are so stoopid!      

ScottMon » 23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm

Solar power is free once you install the panels.  And there is plenty of it.

Solar panels create enormous polluting waste after the life span of a panel has ended.

Greenies and Warmies should be banned from benefiting from fossil fuel in any way....but they only bitch when someone else is using fossil fuel and not them using it

Xavier_Onassis » 23 Aug 2022, 10:42 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 10:42 pm

I don't own an electric car, but you know nothing and are only causing people to wonder how you managed to stay so ignorant for so long.

You must be talking about yourself. 

Look up the percent of electricity generated by fossil fuels ignoramus!

How do you choose to remain so ignorant? You just don’t want to know truth it seems. 

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/ele ... the-us.php
 
One **** google search is all it would take for most matters to be resolved for you intellectually lazy moonbats. 

Im sick of making arguments based on premises that should be universally acknowledged as a starting point. 

That you don’t even acknowledge reality is pathetic. Leaving any potential learning opportunity to be a non starter. 

What the ****!

Who didn’t know the majority of electricity was generated by fossil fuels?

Evidently, this guy. Xavier Ignoramus!
 

 

roadkill » 24 Aug 2022, 3:20 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 3:20 am

Solar panels create enormous polluting waste after the life span of a panel has ended.

Link?  I know you won't but I'll ask for comedic relief.  
 

ScottMon » 24 Aug 2022, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 7:02 am

Link?  I know you won't but I'll ask for comedic relief.

Posted it a long time ago.  Now you indicate that you didn't know those facts.


Thanx

roadkill » 24 Aug 2022, 7:14 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 7:14 am

Posted it a long time ago.  Now you indicate that you didn't know those facts.

Thanx

You're not a reliable source.

ScottMon » 24 Aug 2022, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 7:15 am

You're not a reliable source.

Just look it up yourself. But you won't because you don't want to acknowledge it.   

GHETTOBLASTER » 23 Aug 2022, 8:43 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2022, 8:43 pm

It takes twice as much ethanol as it does gasoline to drive the same distance.
So 10 gallons of a 90 / 10 mix of gas to ethanol will take a 20 mpg car 190 miles ..instead of the 200 miles that you would expect to travel with 100% gasoline.
"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS  "FREE LUNCH"
Traditionally the corn stalks are ground up and returned to the soil..to replenish the land for next years crop.
What happens to the nutritional value of the stalks when the sugars are extracted for ethanol ...?

. I meant less co2 output. 
 

Pastafarian » 24 Aug 2022, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 7:32 am

. I meant less co2 output.

I trust the petro-chemical engineers reasoning for adding 10% alky to the mix...but MY CONCERN is that the corn stalks are supposed to go right back into the ground to complete the natural cycle after the ears are harvested.
Using the stalks to make billions of gallons of alky disrupts the natural cycle.
You realize that every gram of weight in those stalks came from either water or the dirt they grew from...right...?
Where is the replacement dirt going to come from if the entire stalk isn't returned TO THE DIRT...?
 

It takes twice as much ethanol as it does gasoline to drive the same distance.
No, it does not. Alcohol is less efficient, but more efficient than that.
Engine efficiency can be improved by tuning to benefit most from alcohol.

You are defending Big Oil and the Sheikhs of Araby, that have been screwing the American people since WWII.
They are opposing all types of alternative energy and wrecking the environment because of greed and greed alone.

 

Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2022, 10:04 am

It takes twice as much ethanol as it does gasoline to drive the same distance.
No, it does not. Alcohol is less efficient, but more efficient than that.
Engine efficiency can be improved by tuning to benefit most from alcohol.

You are defending Big Oil and the Sheikhs of Araby, that have been screwing the American people since WWII.
They are opposing all types of alternative energy and wrecking the environment because of greed and greed alone.

LOOK **** HEAD...I JUST ROUNDED OFF THAT FIGURE FOR YOU....BUT YES IT TAKES ROUGHLY TWICE AS MUCH ETHANOL TO GO THE SAME DISTANCE AS IT DOES STRAIGHT GASOLINE.
I AM SICK AND **** TIRED OF HAVING TO CORRECT YOUR THINKING EVERY **** DAY
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