Since most electricity is generated using fossil fuels

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23 Aug 2022 3:21 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Traditionally the corn stalks are ground up and returned to the soil..to replenish the land for next years crop.
What happens to the nutritional value of the stalks when the sugars are extracted for ethanol ...?
NOPE!

You cannot make alcohol from cane without  squeezing the cane, preferably as soon after cutting it as possible.  The squeezed cane is called bagasse. It is traditionally dried out and used as fuel to boil the cane juice into molasses, The ashes from the burned cane are used to fertilize the soil.

Corn is much less efficient for producing ethanol than sugar cane. The main reason that we are still adding ethanol to gasoline is because of the Iowa Primaries, where candidates from both parties are obliged to support the corn fuel subsidy.

Only the corn kernels are used to create ethanol.  A corn harvester removes the cobs and another machine is used to remove the kernels from the cob. The corn stalks are left in the filed and plowed under.




 
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Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:15 am » wrote: Traditionally the corn stalks are ground up and returned to the soil..to replenish the land for next years crop.
What happens to the nutritional value of the stalks when the sugars are extracted for ethanol ...?
NOPE!

You cannot make alcohol from cane without  squeezing the cane, preferably as soon after cutting it as possible.  The squeezed cane is called bagasse. It is traditionally dried out and used as fuel to boil the cane juice into molasses, The ashes from the burned cane are used to fertilize the soil.

Corn is much less efficient for producing ethanol than sugar cane. The main reason that we are still adding ethanol to gasoline is because of the Iowa Primaries, where candidates from both parties are obliged to support the corn fuel subsidy.

Only the corn kernels are used to create ethanol.  A corn harvester removes the cobs and another machine is used to remove the kernels from the cob. The corn stalks are left in the filed and plowed under.
Do you know how to shuck an ear of corn without making a mess? GREAT TRICK. Much as I dislike her- it came from Martha Stewart.
You cut the back off.. into the corn just a bit. Pop it in the mic for two minutes. And the entire thing comes off. With not one of those silky things on it! It's Great fun!!!! like Wow. No mess! Everyone should try it. :wave:  
doesnt effect the taste of the corn one bit.
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Aug 2022, 10:03 am » wrote: I trust the petro-chemical engineers reasoning for adding 10% alky to the mix...but MY CONCERN is that the corn stalks are supposed to go right back into the ground to complete the natural cycle after the ears are harvested.
Using the stalks to make billions of gallons of alky disrupts the natural cycle.
You realize that every gram of weight in those stalks came from either water or the dirt they grew from...right...?
Where is the replacement dirt going to come from if the entire stalk isn't returned TO THE DIRT...?
I believe this link suggests that using bacteria to eat away at dissolved ethanol found in the water. 

https://www.gwenvironmentalconsulting.c ... nvironment

 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Aug 2022, 10:06 am » wrote: LOOK **** HEAD...I JUST ROUNDED OFF THAT FIGURE FOR YOU....BUT YES IT TAKES ROUGHLY TWICE AS MUCH ETHANOL TO GO THE SAME DISTANCE AS IT DOES STRAIGHT GASOLINE.
I AM SICK AND **** TIRED OF HAVING TO CORRECT YOUR THINKING EVERY **** DAY

Methanol vs. Ethanol: What Are The Major Differences? – Upgraded Home
I am sick and tired of pointing out that you are lying, racist homophobic Trumphugging FRAUD every day.
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Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am » wrote: I am sick and tired of pointing out that you are lying, racist homophobic Trumphugging FRAUD every day.
No one actually runs vehicles on 100% alcohol, anyway.
You are a vile and disgusting BLIGHT on this forum

 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 10:38 am » wrote: I am sick and tired of pointing out that you are lying, racist homophobic Trumphugging FRAUD every day.
YES..GASOLINE PROVIDES TWICE THE MILEAGE THAT ETHANOL DOES..AS USUAL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONLY QUEERS I FEAR ARE THOSE WHO ARE CARRIERS OF DEADLY AND DISGUSTING DISEASES....[insert barf emoji]
RACISM IS REALISM..SO STOP WATCHING "CARE BEARS" AND "MY LITTLE PONY" AND GO OPEN UP YOUR OWN  BUSINESS ON MLK BLVD ...!!!
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GHETTOBLASTER » Today, 8:06 am » wrote:  
Today, 8:06 am
LOOK **** HEAD...I JUST ROUNDED OFF THAT FIGURE FOR YOU....BUT YES IT TAKES ROUGHLY TWICE AS MUCH ETHANOL TO GO THE SAME DISTANCE AS IT DOES STRAIGHT GASOLINE.
I AM SICK AND **** TIRED OF HAVING TO CORRECT YOUR THINKING EVERY **** DAY

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You realize that every gram of weight in those stalks came from either water or the dirt they grew from...right...?

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I realize NO SUCH THING!  What elements are in the corn, the cob and the stalk?
Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Carbon and some trace elements.
WHERE DOES THE CARBON COME FROM?
It is NOT in the soil?

The Carbon comes from the AIR, of course!
Every tree, every plant you see that contains Carbon got nearly all of it from the atmosphere!

All forms of alcohol are composed ot the same three elements: Hydrogen, Oxygen and Carbon. Hydrogen and Oxygen come from water, Carbon comes from the AIR! Trace elements come from the soil.

 
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Pastafarian » 23 Aug 2022, 4:18 pm » wrote: This study say e10 fuel is the most energy efficient. it’s a biofuel most used in the UK right now. 

https://energycentral.com/c/ec/comparis ... c-vehicles

https://bookmygarage.com/blog/what-is-e10-fuel/
Wonder what you gonna do with the millions  . . .  or more likely billions of batteries, once they're discarded ?
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ScottMon » 23 Aug 2022, 6:46 pm » wrote: Solar power is free once you install the panels.  And there is plenty of it.
Solar panels need maintenance, retard !

They need to be wiped clean every couple of weeks.
This is labor-intensive work and every so often need to be replaced !

Ever hears of birds dropping stones  . . .  besides the usual breaking of stuff ?

Even a switch, whose only job is to switch on and off  . . .  occasionally breaks !

Why these last 2 years 2 switches in my home had to be replaced !
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JinnMartini » 24 Aug 2022, 11:40 am » wrote: Wonder what you gonna do with the millions  . . .  or more likely billions of batteries, once they're discarded ?
Alkaline and carbon batteries COULD be recycled, but they aren't.
When you replace the battery in your car, the lead is nearly ALWAYS recycled.
Usually the entire battery is reconditioned,
I always replace my car batteries with recycled 12v batteries. $29.95 vs $95.98 for a new one
The new battery lasts for average of five years, the recycled one for at least four.
The Lithium in a Lithium battery is not consumed, so it can be recycled.
It is simply a matter of inventing an efficient way to do this.
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JinnMartini » 24 Aug 2022, 11:40 am » wrote: Wonder what you gonna do with the millions  . . .  or more likely billions of batteries, once they're discarded ?
Good question. 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 11:34 am » wrote:
WHERE DOES THE CARBON COME FROM?
It is NOT in the soil?

The Carbon comes from the AIR, of course!
Every tree, every plant you see that contains Carbon got nearly all of it from the atmosphere!

All forms of alcohol are composed ot the same three elements: Hydrogen, Oxygen and Carbon. Hydrogen and Oxygen come from water, Carbon comes from the AIR! Trace elements come from the soil.
OMG! 
 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 24 Aug 2022, 12:03 pm » wrote: Alkaline and carbon batteries COULD be recycled, but they aren't.
When you replace the battery in your car, the lead is nearly ALWAYS recycled.
Usually the entire battery is reconditioned,
I always replace my car batteries with recycled 12v batteries. $29.95 vs $95.98 for a new one
The new battery lasts for average of five years, the recycled one for at least four.
The Lithium in a Lithium battery is not consumed, so it can be recycled.
It is simply a matter of inventing an efficient way to do this.
No matter the topic  . . .  you always know better !
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So Xavier.

You never mea culped.

Do you admit most electricity is generated from fossil fuel?
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JinnMartini » 24 Aug 2022, 11:50 am » wrote: Solar panels need maintenance, retard !

They need to be wiped clean every couple of weeks.
This is labor-intensive work and every so often need to be replaced !

 
And the link for this is where?
 
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ScottMon » 24 Aug 2022, 6:26 pm » wrote: And the link for this is where?

Cali is going to stop selling new gasoline-only cars.
Those cars will be phased-out.

Cali is going to strip you of your right to choose &
force you to buy an electric car, an electric bike,
or commute to work on the city bus.                                            

​​​​​​​All the Gringos & all the Gringo businesses
are going to evacuate Cali.
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ScottMon » 24 Aug 2022, 6:26 pm » wrote: And the link for this is where?
You must be really retarded !

Even the windshield of your car needs to be wiped clean at least every 2 weeks !

Not to mention :

https://kdvr.com/video/crow-caught-on-c ... k/6516253/


 
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JinnMartini » 24 Aug 2022, 6:44 pm » wrote: You must be really retarded !

Even the windshield of your car needs to be wiped clean at least every 2 weeks !

Not to mention :

https://kdvr.com/video/crow-caught-on-c ... k/6516253/
So you got nothing but gonna sell it anyway.  
 
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Traditionally the corn stalk is not leeched of it's sugar content to make alchol you stupid POS....it is ground up and returned to the land "as is"..you dumb ****.
I made ZERO COMMENTS about alky from sugar cane...SO WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU...?
 Bacteria make gasohol from corn stalk wastes (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
READ THE LINK FROM 1980 ...EDUCATE YOURSELF....THEN EAT **** LIBTARD...!!!
First thing today you claimed I was wrong about Gas having twice the mileage that Alcohol has. I had to prove you wrong by providing a link from the scientific community that proves me right. I figured that much embarrassment would finally shut you the **** up. I hoped that being shown what a dumb **** you are for the umpteenth time would force you to crawl under a rock....
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I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING TO CORRECT YOUR THINKING EACH AND EVERY DAY...!!!

 
 
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ScottMon » 24 Aug 2022, 10:47 pm » wrote: So you got nothing but gonna sell it anyway.
You liberals will buy anyrhing !
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