The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID

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By freeman
4 Sep 2022 11:37 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Please go straight to the link:
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If you trust hospitals or doctor "groups"..........

"The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID
Never before in modern history have entire topics in Medicine been actively prevented from discussion in public forums. As a result most of the world only heard one-sided narratives.Pierre Kory, MD, MPA
Aug 30 

excerpt tidbit (there is so much here to become outraged about):

"Steve Kirsch has been offering 1-2 million dollars for anyone in academia or the agencies to participate in a public or even privately recorded, moderated debate of the evidence to support vaccine safety and efficacy. No-one took him up on it.

An organization in Kansas City asked me, Peter McCullough and two other experts to participate in a debate with the clinical leaders at KU. They refused to show. Their table sat empty on the stage while we debated the public statements they had made with a local TV program instead. They literally told the TV presenter that “we do not debate in public forums, only in journal clubs amongst fellow doctors.” Note he said this on TV then went on to support their policies citing what we know are corrupt and easily disprovable evidence-free narratives. What a farce."
 
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"One of the first “corruptions” by Pharma that I experienced in my career was when Eli Lilly invented a national campaign called “Surviving Sepsis” in an attempt to create guidelines supporting optimal care practices. They involved all the professional societies in critical care to participate. Leaders in the field all with a seat at the table.
Yep, you guessed it, it turned out to be cover for their efforts in making a $5,000 harmful drug (Xygris) the standard of care in sepsis. Every single one of those committee members got money. The entire campaign and strategy was developed by a PR firm. Recall that Disinformation tactics were first invented by a PR firm in the 1950’s working for the Tobacco Industry at a time when their products were starting to look bad in the scientific literature. I would argue that Pharma is the most skilled practitioner of Disinformation amongst all industries. I mean 20 years ago already, the entire country’s critical care doctors gave a very expensive, harmful drug to every septic patient for years based on a manipulated trial with the tiniest of mortality benefits amidst a splashy “public health” campaign concocted by a PR firm working for a pharmaceutical company."
Sooo much more: https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-h ... urce=email
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freeman » 04 Sep 2022, 11:37 am » wrote: Please go straight to the link:
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-h ... urce=email
If you trust hospitals or doctor "groups"..........

"The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID
Never before in modern history have entire topics in Medicine been actively prevented from discussion in public forums. As a result most of the world only heard one-sided narratives.Pierre Kory, MD, MPA
Aug 30 

excerpt tidbit (there is so much here to become outraged about):

"Steve Kirsch has been offering 1-2 million dollars for anyone in academia or the agencies to participate in a public or even privately recorded, moderated debate of the evidence to support vaccine safety and efficacy. No-one took him up on it.

An organization in Kansas City asked me, Peter McCullough and two other experts to participate in a debate with the clinical leaders at KU. They refused to show. Their table sat empty on the stage while we debated the public statements they had made with a local TV program instead. They literally told the TV presenter that “we do not debate in public forums, only in journal clubs amongst fellow doctors.” Note he said this on TV then went on to support their policies citing what we know are corrupt and easily disprovable evidence-free narratives. What a farce."
This is all ****.
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During his testimony in December 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication ivermectin was a "wonder drug" with "miraculous effectiveness" against COVID-19.[3][4]



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clevelandsteamer » 05 Sep 2022, 6:46 am » wrote: To be credible, include your source
Ray,


You're a **** moron.

 
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freeman » 04 Sep 2022, 11:37 am » wrote: Please go straight to the link:
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-h ... urce=email
If you trust hospitals or doctor "groups"..........

"The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID
Never before in modern history have entire topics in Medicine been actively prevented from discussion in public forums. As a result most of the world only heard one-sided narratives.Pierre Kory, MD, MPA
Aug 30 

excerpt tidbit (there is so much here to become outraged about):

"Steve Kirsch has been offering 1-2 million dollars for anyone in academia or the agencies to participate in a public or even privately recorded, moderated debate of the evidence to support vaccine safety and efficacy. No-one took him up on it.

An organization in Kansas City asked me, Peter McCullough and two other experts to participate in a debate with the clinical leaders at KU. They refused to show. Their table sat empty on the stage while we debated the public statements they had made with a local TV program instead. They literally told the TV presenter that “we do not debate in public forums, only in journal clubs amongst fellow doctors.” Note he said this on TV then went on to support their policies citing what we know are corrupt and easily disprovable evidence-free narratives. What a farce."
"DURING TIMES OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT....TELLING THE TRUTH BECOMES A REVOLUTIONARY ACT".
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Blackvegetable » 05 Sep 2022, 6:34 am » wrote: During his testimony in December 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication ivermectin was a "wonder drug" with "miraculous effectiveness" against COVID-19.[3][4]

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Big Pharma's little bi*ch BacVag insists on remaining just that stooopid even 2-1/2 years into it:
viewtopic.php?p=1972868#p1972868

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That kind of stunning performance in spite of the fact that a near unanimity of studies did not even include all important zinc, or even quercetin or vitamin D.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-1 ... treatment/

179 ivermectin COVID-19 studies, 128 peer reviewed, 90 comparing treatment and control groups.
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freeman » 05 Sep 2022, 8:39 am » wrote: Big Pharma's little bi*ch BacVag insists on remaining just that stooopid even 2-1/2 years into it:
viewtopic.php?p=1972868#p1972868

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That kind of stunning performance in spite of the fact that a near unanimity of studies did not even include all important zinc, or even quercetin or vitamin D.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-1 ... treatment/

179 ivermectin COVID-19 studies, 128 peer reviewed, 90 comparing treatment and control groups.
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That's ****.


 
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Big Pharma's little bi*ch BacterialVagina, aka Chatty Cathy, reaches back and pulls her string to once again repeat one of her 18 constructive detailed rebuttals!
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BacterialVagina calls **** on 179 ivermectin COVID-19 studies, 128 peer reviewed, 90 comparing treatment and control groups - while she would instead readily volunteer, yet again, to be a lab rat for Big Pharma - but this time for Pfizer’s patented new EUA (based on a single study) drug Paxlovid (while sending a bill for $530 per course of treatment on to her heirs), for an experimental drug with completely unknown long term side effects.
"Absurd misinformation from the nation’s top medical mis-informationist (Biden). He goes on to say, “you can take these pills at home and you can get them from tens of thousands of pharmacies.” He then follows this with, “the PFDA (the P is not a typo) even put in a special rule so that pharmacists can prescribe the drug!” Pharmacists don’t prescribe by the way (or at least never have in the past). He then exulted, “you don’t even have to go to the doctor!” Note he is referring to the distribution of Pfizer’s Paxlovid, a drug with 120 important drug interactions across 25 different classes of very commonly prescribed medications. It cannot be given concurrently with 75 of them and you have to adjust doses with an additional 29. Even Biden had to be taken off of two of his medications to be treated with it.

I have never in my career used a medication with this many complex drug interactions.
Not even close. Yet, now in the U.S it will be “prescribed” by a pharmacist with no more than a superficial knowledge of the chronicity, severity, or treatment history of the patient’s other illnesses. "
Paxlovid - emergency use authorization for $530 per course, dangerous drug

 
 
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Make your case, peer reviewed studies say you’re wrong.
 
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Cedar » 05 Sep 2022, 10:00 am » wrote: Make your case, peer reviewed studies say you’re wrong.
show me.
 
 
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freeman » 05 Sep 2022, 9:44 am » wrote: BacterialVagina calls **** on 179 ivermectin COVID-19 studies, 128 peer reviewed, 90 comparing treatment and control groups - while she would instead readily volunteer, yet again, to be a lab rat for Big Pharma - but this time for Pfizer’s patented new EUA (based on a single study) drug Paxlovid (while sending a bill for $530 per course of treatment on to her heirs), for an experimental drug with completely unknown long term side effects.


I have never in my career used a medication with this many complex drug interactions. Not even close. Yet, now in the U.S it will be “prescribed” by a pharmacist with no more than a superficial knowledge of the chronicity, severity, or treatment history of the patient’s other illnesses. "
Paxlovid - emergency use authorization for $530 per course, dangerous drug
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamain ... le/2789362
 
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5 Sep 2022 11:12 am
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That is of course one of the trials included in the link I presented.
https://c19ivermectin.com/lim.html
A trial of "490 late stage (>65% lung change chest radiography at baseline) hospitalized patients in Malaysia", further demonstrating once again why early treatment is important in treatment of COVID.
In other words, another designed to fail study. Yet even still:
"Mortality was 1.2% for ivermectin vs. 4% for control."
It just didn't reach statistical significance over 490 subjects.
So even in late treatment, which group would you have preferred to have been in?

"The mortality reduction is consistent with the results from all trials to date. While not reaching the significance threshold with the specified test, Bayesian analysis shows a 97% probability that ivermectin reduces mortality [normanfenton.com]. Authors describe the mortality results as "similar" and they are not mentioned in the visual abstract or the conclusion, suggesting substantial investigator bias with a preference for a null result."
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freeman » 04 Sep 2022, 11:37 am » wrote: Please go straight to the link:
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-h ... urce=email
If you trust hospitals or doctor "groups"..........

"The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID
Never before in modern history have entire topics in Medicine been actively prevented from discussion in public forums. As a result most of the world only heard one-sided narratives.Pierre Kory, MD, MPA
Aug 30 

excerpt tidbit (there is so much here to become outraged about):

"Steve Kirsch has been offering 1-2 million dollars for anyone in academia or the agencies to participate in a public or even privately recorded, moderated debate of the evidence to support vaccine safety and efficacy. No-one took him up on it.

An organization in Kansas City asked me, Peter McCullough and two other experts to participate in a debate with the clinical leaders at KU. They refused to show. Their table sat empty on the stage while we debated the public statements they had made with a local TV program instead. They literally told the TV presenter that “we do not debate in public forums, only in journal clubs amongst fellow doctors.” Note he said this on TV then went on to support their policies citing what we know are corrupt and easily disprovable evidence-free narratives. What a farce."
Pierre Kory is a buffoon.
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Cedar » 05 Sep 2022, 10:00 am » wrote: Make your case, peer reviewed studies say you’re wrong.
Efficacy and safety of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed (nih.gov)

Conclusions: Based on very low to moderate quality of evidence, ivermectin was not efficacious at managing COVID-19. Its safety profile permits its use in trial settings to further clarify its role in COVID-19 treatment.
 
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Blackvegetable » 05 Sep 2022, 11:22 am » wrote: Pierre Kory is a buffoon.
So from your epic fail post to you proving you are an epic fool post. Why must you obsess over confirming that you are satan's spawn? That you are a child of the father of lies.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/about/t ... hysicians/

"Pierre Kory is the former Chief of the Critical Care Service and Medical Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center at the University of Wisconsin. He is considered one of the world pioneers in the use of ultrasound by physicians in the diagnosis and treatment of critically ill patients. He helped develop and run the first national courses in Critical Care Ultrasonography in the U.S., and served as a Director of these courses with the American College of Chest Physicians for several years. He is also the senior editor of the most popular textbook in the field titled “Point of Care Ultrasound,” now in its 2nd edition and that has been translated into 7 languages worldwide. He has led over 100 courses nationally and internationally, teaching physicians this now-standard skill in his specialty.
Dr. Kory was also one of the U.S. pioneers in the research, development, and teaching of performing therapeutic hypothermia to treat post-cardiac arrest patients. In 2005, his hospital was the first in New York City to begin regularly treating patients with therapeutic hypothermia. He then served as an expert panel member for New York City’s Project Hypothermia, a collaborative project between the Fire Department of New York and Emergency Medical Services. This project created cooling protocols within a network of 44 regional hospitals – along with a triage and transport system that directed patients to centers of excellence in hypothermia treatment – of which his hospital was one of the first."
Much more in continuation:
viewtopic.php?p=2119763#p2119763
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Blackvegetable » 20 minutes ago » wrote:

Pierre Kory is a buffoon.
"Known as a Master Educator, Dr. Kory has won numerous departmental and divisional teaching awards in every hospital he has worked. He has delivered hundreds of courses and invited lectures throughout his career.

 In collaboration with Dr. Paul Marik, Dr. Kory pioneered the research and treatment of septic shock patients with high doses of intravenous ascorbic acid. His work was the first to identify the critical relationship between the time of initiation of therapy and survival in septic shock patients – an aspect of the therapy that led to understanding all the failed randomized controlled trials that employed delayed therapy.

 Dr. Kory has led ICU’s in multiple COVID-19 hotspots throughout the pandemic. Having led his old ICU in New York City during their initial surge in May for 5 straight weeks, he then travelled to other COVID-19 hotspots to run COVID ICU’s in Greenville, South Carolina and Milwaukee, WI during their surges. He has co-authored 5 influential papers on COVID-19, with the most impactful being a paper that was the first to support the diagnosis of early COVID-19 respiratory disease as an organizing pneumonia, thus explaining the critical response of the disease to corticosteroids."

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