The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID

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By freeman
4 Sep 2022 11:37 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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clevelandsteamer » 08 Sep 2022, 6:22 am » wrote: Freeman,
@ScottMon  is a troll.
Feeling is very mutual.  I think you're a massive troll.  
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ScottMon » 08 Sep 2022, 7:31 am » wrote: I trust the CDC a lot more than I will ever trust you.
And you will deserve what's coming down the pike to get you, for insisting on abject ignorance and trusting government, let alone criminal corporations.
CDC quietly removes false info regarding spike proteins from their website

 
 
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freeman » 08 Sep 2022, 7:35 am » wrote: And you will deserve what is coming down the pike to get you for insisting on abject ignorance.
CDC quietly removes false info regarding spike proteins from their website
Which is more that you'll ever do when you find out you're wrong.  
 
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ScottMon » 08 Sep 2022, 7:36 am » wrote: Which is more that you'll ever do when you find out you're wrong.
I already know I'm not wrong since my wife and I got over COVID in a few days, with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, along with zinc, quercetin and other nutraceuticals like vitamin D.
Early treatment is proven to be 100% effective, just as Tyson and Fareed found in treatment of 7,000 patients with zero deaths and zero hospitalizations in patients that showed up for treatment within 7 days of symptoms, with just a few deaths among those that delayed seeking treatment.
Overcoming the COVID-19 Darkness: Two Doctors Successfully Treated 7000 Patients
And as Dr. Zev Zelenko found by March 23 of 2020
Dr. Zelenko recommendations of 3-23-2020 - 500 elderly and high-risk patients - 0 deaths 0 hospitalized

While you, as a lab rat for Big Pharma, are stuck waiting over the next decade or so, for the other shoe to drop.
Vaccinated Die Because of Vax-induced Autoimmune Attacks on Their Own Organs
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Embalmers Find Veins & Arteries Filled with long stretchy Rubbery Blood Clots
Infrared Thermal Imaging Vaccine-induced Immune Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia VITT
 
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clevelandsteamer » 08 Sep 2022, 7:49 am » wrote: Wrong again @ScottMon  the TROLL!
Ok.  Thank you.  You proved your point. I apologize for having missed that. 
 
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freeman » 08 Sep 2022, 7:47 am » wrote: I already know I'm not wrong since my wife and I got over COVID in a few days, with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, along with zinc, quercetin and other nutraceuticals like vitamin D. Early treatment is proven to be 100% effective, just as Tyson and Fareed found in treatment of 7,000 patients with zero deaths and zero hospitalizations in patients that showed up for treatment within 7 days of symptoms, with just a few deaths among those that delayed seeking treatment.
Overcoming the COVID-19 Darkness: Two Doctors Successfully Treated 7000 Patients
And as Dr. Zev Zelenko found by March 23 of 2020
Dr. Zelenko recommendations of 3-23-2020 - 500 elderly and high-risk patients - 0 deaths 0 hospitalized

 
I don't think you understand.  I..don't...trust...you... It is my opinion that you are promoting quackery for your own ego.  Everything you post is derived from obscure and unverified sources.  
 
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clevelandsteamer » 08 Sep 2022, 7:55 am » wrote: You have ZERO credibility! You made this claim. It is FALSE!
Nursing homes were not in shutdown! They were accepting Covid-19 infected patients.
I was raised by the notion that if you're wrong, you admit it and apologize.  I was wrong and apologized. 
 
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ScottMon » 08 Sep 2022, 7:30 am » wrote: That is only New York.
Keep moving those goal posts, ****** - even AFTER being shown other dem-pig states where old folks homes were ethnically cleansed, fruity.
 
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clevelandsteamer » 08 Sep 2022, 8:03 am » wrote: This TROLL just kicked your *** with the truth!
I am the TRUTH TROLL
I admitted you were right.  Do you want a cookie or something?
 
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ScottMon » 08 Sep 2022, 7:56 am » wrote: I don't think you understand.  I..don't...trust...you... It is my opinion that you are promoting quackery for your own ego.  Everything you post is derived from obscure and unverified sources.
An example of what happens when Satan - the father of lies - so completely rules a person's mind and soul, that the resulting broken-mindedness makes them vulnerable to COVID derangement syndrome and Mass Formation Psychosis. No matter how many times he's told the links present info by and about world renowned epidemiologists, virologists, microbiologists, pathologists, immunologists, vaccinologists, academics and particularly, talented, dedicated, front line treating physicians, that have enjoyed 99+% success rates in early treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals ever since March of 2020, Satan's spawn continues to ignore the facts and spew lies from straight out of the pit of hell, which, if passersby this forum that are unaware of how ignorant he is and are influenced by his lies, could result in their death or degenerative illness either through delayed treatment for COVID or through clot shots. Perhaps poor ScotMoan believes that something is "obscure" if Rachael Maddow hasn't mentioned it. Which of course goes to the subject of this thread.

So let's examine what Satan has to say through ScotMoan:
"Everything you post is derived from obscure and unverified sources."

We'll begin with a couple of "obscure" and "unverified" members of the FLCCC, that support effective early treatment for COVID-19 with ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine + zinc + nutraceuticals protocols.
 
 
 
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Meet a few of the medical professionals that we rely on for information
Dr. Paul Marik - Critical Care and Emergency Medicine World Ranking: #2
Dr. Marik has written over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles, 80 book chapters and authored four critical care books. His efforts have provided him the distinction of the second most published critical care physician in the world. He has been cited over 43,000 times in peer-reviewed publications and has an H-index of 77. He has delivered over 350 lectures at international conferences and visiting professorships. As a result of his contributions, he has been the recipient of numerous teaching awards, including the National Teacher of the Year award by the American College of Physicians in 2017.

In January 2022 Dr. Marik retired from EVMS to focus on continuing his leadership of the FLCCC and has already co-authored over 10 papers on therapeutic aspects of treating COVID-19. In March 2022 Dr. Marik received a commendation by unanimous vote by the Virginia House of Delegates for “his courageous treatment of critically ill COVID-19 patients and his philanthropic efforts to share his effective treatment protocols with physicians around the world.” 
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Meet a few of the medical professionals that we rely on for forum information

Dr. Joseph Varon

Dr, Varon has contributed more than 830 peer-reviewed journal articles, 10 full textbooks, and 15 dozen book chapters to medical literature. He currently serves as Editor-in-Chief for Critical Care and Shock and Current Respiratory Medicine Reviews. Dr. Varon has won many prestigious awards and is considered one of the top physicians in the United States."

"Dr. Varon created the Medical Prevention and Research Institute in Houston, Texas, which conducts work on basic sciences projects. Dr. Varon has appeared in numerous national and international television and radio programs showing his techniques and care of patients. During the past 11 months of the COVID pandemic, Dr. Varon has become a world leader for his work on COVID19 and his co-development of the MATH+ protocol to care for these patients. For this he has won multiple awards, including a proclamation by the Mayor of the City of Houston as “Dr. Joseph Varon Day”.

Such an obscure source! These are the kinds of medical professionals that Big Pharma's little bi*ches and pigs and Big Pharma promoting TV white coats that influence you, refer to as "quacks".
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freeman » 09 Sep 2022, 10:19 am » wrote: An example of what happens when Satan - the father of lies - so completely rules a person's mind and soul, that the resulting broken-mindedness makes them vulnerable to COVID derangement syndrome and Mass Formation Psychosis
And now we have Satan brought into the mix.  Yeah, Satan doesn't exist.  
 
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ScottMon » 09 Sep 2022, 12:32 pm » wrote: And now we have Satan brought into the mix.  Yeah, Satan doesn't exist.
Sure, and everything came from nothing. I was just trying to help you see where the spirit that is inside you comes from, that causes you lie like you do, while desperately running and hiding from truth. And while you may not believe in Satan, your lies make it patently obvious that he certainly believes in you.

But then your reply came up short of explaining your lie that suggests that the the most published Critical Care and Emergency Medicine doctor in the world that has been cited cited over 43,000 times in peer-reviewed publications with an H-index of 77 and is ranked #2 in the world, Dr. Marik - who has written over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles, 80 book chapters and authored four critical care books, and Dr. Joseph Varon that has contributed more than 830 peer-reviewed journal articles, 10 full textbooks, and 15 dozen book chapters to medical literature and has won many prestigious awards and is considered one of the top physicians in the United States - can be described under your broad brush as an "Everything you post is derived from obscure and unverified sources."
Meet a few of the medical professionals that we rely on for forum information

 
 
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ScottMon » 09 Sep 2022, 12:32 pm » wrote: And now we have Satan brought into the mix.  Yeah, Satan doesn't exist.
Cat got your tongue? Can you see why you can't walk back your lies?
Here's another "quack" that Big Pharma's little bi*ches like you demonize in your "supression of scientific debate".

Dr. Robert Malone
"I am an internationally recognized scientist/physician and the original inventor of mRNA vaccination as a technology, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA platform delivery technologies. I hold numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines: including for fundamental DNA and RNA/mRNA vaccine technologies.

I have approximately 100 scientific publications with over 12,000 citations of my work (per Google Scholar with an “outstanding” impact factor rating). I have been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, have chaired numerous conferences and I have sat on or served as chairperson on HHS and DoD committees.  I currently sit as a non-voting member on the NIH ACTIV committee, which is tasked with managing clinical research for a variety of drug and antibody treatments for COVID-19.

I received my medical degree from the Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine. I completed the Harvard Medical School fellowship as a global clinical research scholar in 2016 and was scientifically trained at the University of California at Davis, the University of California at San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories.  I have served as an assistant and associate professor of pathology and surgery at the University of California at Davis, the University of Maryland, and the Armed Forces University of the Health Sciences."
Much more
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/about

 
 
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freeman » 04 Sep 2022, 11:37 am » wrote: Please go straight to the link:
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-h ... urce=email
If you trust hospitals or doctor "groups"..........

"The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID
Never before in modern history have entire topics in Medicine been actively prevented from discussion in public forums. As a result most of the world only heard one-sided narratives.Pierre Kory, MD, MPA
Aug 30 

excerpt tidbit (there is so much here to become outraged about):

"Steve Kirsch has been offering 1-2 million dollars for anyone in academia or the agencies to participate in a public or even privately recorded, moderated debate of the evidence to support vaccine safety and efficacy. No-one took him up on it.

An organization in Kansas City asked me, Peter McCullough and two other experts to participate in a debate with the clinical leaders at KU. They refused to show. Their table sat empty on the stage while we debated the public statements they had made with a local TV program instead. They literally told the TV presenter that “we do not debate in public forums, only in journal clubs amongst fellow doctors.” Note he said this on TV then went on to support their policies citing what we know are corrupt and easily disprovable evidence-free narratives. What a farce."

Doctor has his vaccinated and non vaccinated patients tracked and compared.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Lfqc8ERGW8aR/
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Bob » 10 Sep 2022, 8:27 am » wrote: Doctor has his vaccinated and non vaccinated patients tracked and compared.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Lfqc8ERGW8aR/
Great video and organization! But as we know, facts and data mean absolutely nothing to Big Pharma's lying little bi*ch cheerleaders like ScotMoan, as he gets ready to stand in line for his 3rd or 4th booster and further destroy his immune system while risking death or permanent disability.
Nursing Reports From The Front Lines Of The COVID Vaccine Crisis
Dangers of COVID shots ‘deleted’ as thousands of injury, death reports missing
More stories of individuals dying or severely injured after receiving vaccine
No sympathy for widows from the vaccine zealots By Laura Perrins - May 16, 2022


 
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freeman » 10 Sep 2022, 8:37 am » wrote: Great video and organization! But as we know, facts and data mean absolutely nothing to Big Pharma's little bi*ch cheerleaders and liars like ScotMoan, as he gets ready to stand in line for his 3rd or 4th booster and further destroy his immune system and risk death.


  Attention deficit side effect problems from the injections so that facts can be presented but then ignored and quickly forgotten?
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Bob » 10 Sep 2022, 8:51 am » wrote:   Attention deficit side effect problems from the injections so that facts can be presented but then ignored and quickly forgotten?
It's mental illness - psychosis. He's detached from reality.
Mass Formation Psychosis

Some insight from the first link in that group in my prior post from Dr. Pierre Kory's correspondence with the nurse:
"The most profound reflection of this last week came from a patient who is a physician and therapist. She was hospitalized recently for non-COVID reasons and observed: “I think many of the physicians are exhibiting dissociation. It takes an enormous amount of energy to maintain their narrative and hold off the reality hitting them in the face every day.” I thought of this reading the recent piece you referenced from The Annals of Emergency Medicine.

    Wikipedia:“ The major characteristic of all dissociative phenomena involves a detachment from reality, rather than a loss of reality as in psychosis. Research has suggested that dissociation is inversely related to mindfulness, which is a potential treatment.“

Add to that everyone that has been supporting these criminal corporations for over 2 years now, knowing that if they don't maintain the narrative they will be facing charges for medical malpractice and perhaps even mass homicide, and it's easy to see why they can't give up the narrative and instead have to continue to wholesale murder people.

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...[hopefully one day the republicrats will understand the 'historic suppression' of debate, information, etc.. about ((((((((THE MONEY))))))) is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more important...and in fact allows a certain class to dominate ALL 'debate', information, etc. ad nau$eam... word...  ;)   :wave:    
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