The Historic Suppression of Scientific Debate in COVID

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By freeman
4 Sep 2022 11:37 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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clevelandsteamer » 05 Sep 2022, 11:42 am » wrote: You know as well I do, the Covid-19 vaccination does not stop one from getting Covid-19.

Ivermectin is a proven "life saver" for the treatment of those that are infected with Covid-19
The vaccine has reduced the time of infection and creates herd immunity.  
 
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5 Sep 2022 12:10 pm
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ScottMon » 05 Sep 2022, 11:48 am » wrote: The vaccine has reduced the time of infection....
You are living in the past.
"AIDS-Like 'Chronic Covid' is Taking Over Europe, Australia and NZ"-Igor Chudov
and creates herd immunity.
You poor pitiful brainwashed dupe.
Mass Formation Psychosis - Why the U.S. looks increasingly like Nazi Germany

Vaccine has done the exact opposite of creating herd immunity.
It prolonged the "pandemic" for over a year and a half by replacing herd immunity with a vaxxdemic. 
"..under no circumstances should a COVID recovered person undergo vaccination."

And now, killing kids (but be sure to get yours vaxxed).
Triple-Vaxx Kids in England 137 Times MORE LIKELY to Die Of Covid-19 Than Unvaxx

And worse, creating and training escape mutants:
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche "Final Call" "Final Warning"

And now killing people that, if they had not gotten vaxxed, would have had a virtual 100% chance of survival with early treatment.
NSW: 798 COVID deaths in the last 8 weeks, all but 2 were vaccinated

And now the inarguable beginning of the carnage from blood clots, auto-immune diseases, myocarditis, cancer and so much more:
Fifth-largest U.S. life insurer reports 163% rise in 2021 death-benefit payouts
Embalmers Find Veins & Arteries Filled with long stretchy Rubbery Blood Clots

 
 
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The Covid-19 Disinformation Forum.
 
And then there are the sources of the information on the Covid-19 Forum, The NOQ Report and the America First Report.   :rofl:   The latter headlining this important story...Metaverse Company Appoints Robot as Female CEO   :die:  
 
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IkeBana » 05 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: The Covid-19 Disinformation Forum.
Did you miss this?
viewtopic.php?p=2119693#p2119693

Shamelessly spewing lies when you are well aware that the Covid-19 Forum is primarily composed of copy and pasted articles and videos by and about world renowned epidemiologists, virologists, microbiologists, pathologists, immunologists, vaccinologists and particularly, talented, dedicated, front line treating physicians, that have enjoyed 99+% success rates in early treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals ever since March of 2020.
Like for example these outstanding professionals:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/about/t ... hysicians/

But then we all recognize you're just one of the ignorant dupes that lost his mind to Mass Formation Psychosis.
 
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freeman » 05 Sep 2022, 12:31 pm » wrote: Did you miss this?
viewtopic.php?p=2119693#p2119693

Shamelessly spewing lies when you are well aware that the Covid-19 Forum is primarily composed of copy and pasted articles and videos by and about world renowned epidemiologists, virologists, microbiologists, pathologists, immunologists, vaccinologists and particularly, talented, dedicated, front line treating physicians, that have enjoyed 99+% success rates in early treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals ever since March of 2020.
Like for example these outstanding professionals:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/about/t ... hysicians/

But then we all recognize you're just one of the ignorant dupes that lost his mind to Mass Formation Psychosis.
Mass Formation Psychosis is ****.  Your links are self-promoting ****.
 
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IkeBana » 05 Sep 2022, 12:29 pm » wrote: And then there are the sources of the information on the Covid-19 Forum, The NOQ Report and the America First Report.   Image   The latter headlining this important story...Metaverse Company Appoints Robot as Female CEO   Image
Like America First Report is the only site that mirrored that story?
Metaverse Company Appoints Robot as Female CEO
https://duckduckgo.com/?va=j&t=hb&q=Met ... CEO&ia=web

Attacking the messenger is the MO of weak-minded people that are unable to refute a fact or point of view that is contrary to the lies they have been brainwashed to believe.
Interesting catch though, since in your case, you behave as a blind, deaf and dumb robot for Big Pharma, and it's patently easy to see why.
Mass Formation Psychosis - Why the U.S. looks increasingly like Nazi Germany
 
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IkeBana » 05 Sep 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: Mass Formation Psychosis is ****.
Thank you for demonstrating exactly the way a WWII German would have seen it. And all the other victims of mass formation psychosis in this forum see it.
Let alone the forum victims of  COVID Derangement Syndrome that was followed by Hydroxychloroquine Derangement Syndrome and then Ivermectin Derangement Syndrome and ultimately by COVID Vaccine Derangement Syndrome. When all the poor fools would have had to do is turn off the TV or at least change the channel.
Or simply seek out truth rather than marinating in lies.
IkeBana » 05 Sep 2022, 12:48 pm » wrote: Your links are self-promoting ****.
Except the links have little to nothing to do with me since they are about renowned epidemiologists, virologists, microbiologists, pathologists, immunologists, vaccinologists, academics and particularly, talented, dedicated, front line treating physicians that have enjoyed 99+% success rates in early treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals ever since March of 2020
Your mental derangement simply won't allow you to see that.
 
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You are a broken record.  Linking to the same damn website instead of credible links.  you depend on conspiracies instead of established facts. 
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ScottMon » 05 Sep 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: You are a broken record.
Helping folks overcome brainwashing is a slow process.
Linking to the same damn website instead of credible links.  you depend on conspiracies instead of established facts.
I link to that website (that includes copy and pasted articles and links to the original articles/authors) as there are usually several posts within a thread that further support the original topic. Conveniently consolidated for the viewer's further exploration. As in the case of the example you are referring to.
"AIDS-Like 'Chronic Covid' is Taking Over Europe, Australia and NZ"-Igor Chudov

Now are you suggesting that the Johns Hopkins data chart in that OP is part of a "conspiracy"?
Or are you just too dumb to read a graph or view data?

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Or was the conspiracy in a post further down, with that link published at the NIH site?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9012513/

Published online 2022 Apr 15. doi: 10.1016/j.fct.2022.113008
PMCID: PMC9012513
PMID: 35436552
Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs
Stephanie Seneff,a,∗ Greg Nigh,b Anthony M. Kyriakopoulos,c and Peter A. McCullough,d

Abstract

"In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health."
VAIDS - Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome
 
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Here's another post from that thread:
"VAIDS - Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome

"A Lancet study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people in Sweden was conducted among 1.6 million individuals over nine months. It showed that protection against symptomatic COVID-19 declined with time, such that by six months, some of the more vulnerable vaccinated groups were at greater risk than their unvaccinated peers.

Doctors are calling this phenomena in the repeatedly vaccinated “immune erosion” or “acquired immune deficiency”, accounting for elevated incidence of myocarditis and other post-vaccine illnesses that either affect them more rapidly, resulting in death, or more slowly, resulting in chronic illness."

"Meanwhile, New England Journal of Medicine researchers have found that autoimmune response to the coronavirus spike protein may last indefinitely: “Ab2 antibodies binding to the original receptor on normal cells therefore have the potential to mediate profound effects on the cell that could result in pathologic changes, particularly in the long term — long after the original antigen itself has disappeared.” These antibodies produced against the coronavirus spike protein could be responsible for the current unprecedented wave of myocarditis and neurological illnesses, and even more problems in the future."

But I suppose you view the NEJM and Lancet as involved in the conspiracy (not that they aren't regularly involved in conspiracies with Big Pharma in order to demonize effective cheap generic medications).
 
 
 
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clevelandsteamer » 05 Sep 2022, 3:19 pm » wrote: The vaccine has killed people as well.
HEARD IMMUNITY?

Herd immunity can be reached when enough people in the population have recovered from a disease and have developed protective antibodies against future infection. However, experts now believe it'll likely be difficult to achieve herd immunity for COVID-19.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20486808
Your link doesn't prove your point about killing by vaccine.
 
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clevelandsteamer » 05 Sep 2022, 5:07 pm » wrote: No offense, you are nothing but a Troll.
No offense but the feeling is mutual.  Right wing noise maker.
 
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This ^ is as close as this dancing *** will ever come to addressing an OP: Call it names. 

Seriously - this is not his game - not representative. This is the TOP of his game. He actually DID respond to the OP. Not with anything but an ad hom - but that's a step up from what dancy panty usually "contributes."
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Blackvegetable » 05 Sep 2022, 6:34 am » wrote: During his testimony in December 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication ivermectin was a "wonder drug" with "miraculous effectiveness" against COVID-19.[3][4]

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This is peer reviewed science about the W.H.O.-labeled WONDER DRUG, Ivermectin.

It's not from MSNBC, but they have so much to wade through, wht with russia russia russia and trump selling nuclear secrets to putin. Sorry.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
 
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There he goes again - top form. 


You bring science, he brings ad hom. The boy ate his Wheaties today. 
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Cedar » 05 Sep 2022, 10:00 am » wrote: Make your case, peer reviewed studies say you’re wrong.

In his defense, he DID name-call those studies - a step up. He usually dances way from science, rather than muster an ad hom. 
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https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

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"Our study has limitations. First, the open-label trial design might contribute to the underreporting of adverse events in the control group while overestimating the drug effects of ivermectin. Second, our study was not designed to assess the effects of ivermectin on mortality from COVID-19. Finally, the generalizability of our findings may be limited by the older study population, although younger and healthier individuals with low risk of severe disease are less likely to benefit from specific COVID-19 treatments."

1. When adverse events in the control group are under-reported, the study is designed for that under-reporting. They have the competence to design a proper study - and chose not to. Who funded this?

2. When the study is not designed to assess the effects of the purported life-saving medicine on saving lives, what IS its intent? A "null" (inconclusive) finding - that's what.

3. People in less danger appeared to derive less benefit. Absolutely astounding. 
 
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Blackvegetable » 05 Sep 2022, 11:22 am » wrote: Pierre Kory is a buffoon.

BRAVO! Three in a ROW!
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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

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An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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No one suggested that calling Ivermectin a wonder drug (as the world health organization did when Ivermectin's creators won the Nobel Prize in medicine for 2015) could prevent a person from getting (and quickly beating) covid, fruity. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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