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I have withheld judgment to this point, waiting for promised smoking gun evidence to conclusively show votes were manipulated electronically. Two years is enough time for such evidence to appear, it's absence indicates that tales of CIA connected voting machine purveyors rigging the election are likely false. 

That said, the extremes that the opposition to Trump went to, violated and tarnished institutions we are expected to rely on. Their actions and inaction gave the election to Joe Biden. It took capitalizing on a pandemic, inflamming and supporting racial animosity, and burying damning stories that shone light on Bidens criminal abuse of office.  Objective observers have no reason to trust the media. They have reason to be wary of domestic intelligence agencies. They are justified in questioning the result of the election. 

Trump LOST. He lost bigtime. The bastard claims ht won by a landslide.
Biden won, and he won with 7 million more votes.

Trump was obviously the enemy of media and academia since he was a candidate for 2016. Largely because he said a lot of things that were true instead of relying on the cliche platitudes.

But I don't think it matters one bit what the results of any election is. Us politics is controlled by money

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm

I have withheld judgment to this point, waiting for promised smoking gun evidence to conclusively show votes were manipulated electronically. Two years is enough time for such evidence to appear, it's absence indicates that tales of CIA connected voting machine purveyors rigging the election are likely false. 

That said, the extremes that the opposition to Trump went to, violated and tarnished institutions we are expected to rely on. Their actions and inaction gave the election to Joe Biden. It took capitalizing on a pandemic, inflamming and supporting racial animosity, and burying damning stories that shone light on Bidens criminal abuse of office.  Objective observers have no reason to trust the media. They have reason to be wary of domestic intelligence agencies. They are justified in questioning the result of the election.

That said, the extremes that the opposition to Trump went to, violated and tarnished institutions we are expected to rely on.

Never let the facts get in the way of your feels, Neo..


 

Apropos of nothing, Christ's JAR's never rose above 44% either.

Cucurbitophobia » 06 Sep 2022, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 5:07 pm

Rigged and stolen

sticky&confused...

Xavier_Onassis » 06 Sep 2022, 4:46 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 4:46 pm

Trump LOST. He lost bigtime. The bastard claims ht won by a landslide.
Biden won, and he won with 7 million more votes.

So did all those **** in the tour de France, to a one balled man no less. I put Biden and Lance Armstrong in the same company. Sure, they technically won, but there should be a giant **** asterisk. 
 

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 7:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 7:35 pm

So did all those **** in the tour de France, to a one balled man no less. I put Biden and Lance Armstrong in the same company. Sure, they technically won, but there should be a giant **** asterisk.

I put Biden and Lance Armstrong in the same company. Sure, they technically won, but there should be a giant **** asterisk.

And Barry Bonds.
 

FOS » 06 Sep 2022, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 4:50 pm

Trump was obviously the enemy of media and academia since he was a candidate for 2016. Largely because he said a lot of things that were true instead of relying on the cliche platitudes.

But I don't think it matters one bit what the results of any election is. Us politics is controlled by money

My pet peeves are the Illegal Alien Invasion ..the ill advised and very  foolish evac of thousands of Afghanis..when actually just a very select few Para-Military Aides earned a free ride to the USA and of course the failed policies that have led to massive gasoline inflation and it's domino effect on the price of everything else.

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm

I have withheld judgment to this point, waiting for promised smoking gun evidence to conclusively show votes were manipulated electronically. Two years is enough time for such evidence to appear, it's absence indicates that tales of CIA connected voting machine purveyors rigging the election are likely false. 

That said, the extremes that the opposition to Trump went to, violated and tarnished institutions we are expected to rely on. Their actions and inaction gave the election to Joe Biden. It took capitalizing on a pandemic, inflamming and supporting racial animosity, and burying damning stories that shone light on Bidens criminal abuse of office.  Objective observers have no reason to trust the media. They have reason to be wary of domestic intelligence agencies. They are justified in questioning the result of the election.

The evidence is not only present, it conclusively shows the election was severely tainted.  Biden did lose big.  Too late now.

LibDave » 06 Sep 2022, 8:23 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 8:23 pm

The evidence is not only present, it conclusively shows the election was severely tainted.  Biden did lose big.  Too late now.

What "evidence" is that?

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 7:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 7:35 pm

So did all those **** in the tour de France, to a one balled man no less. I put Biden and Lance Armstrong in the same company. Sure, they technically won, but there should be a giant **** asterisk.

Because he won by 7 million votes?

Blackvegetable » 06 Sep 2022, 9:29 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:29 pm

Because he won by 7 million votes?

See 2000 mules.  You can also participate in the video documentation.  Several are already in the process of being charged.  Many will likely flip.  Very time consuming.  I ran out of time on just the first few.

LibDave » 06 Sep 2022, 9:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:35 pm

See 2000 mules.  You can also participate in the video documentation.  Several are already in the process of being charged.  Many will likely flip.  Very time consuming.  I ran out of time on just the first few.

Former Attorney General William Barr denigrated evidence of voter fraud presented in the documentary “2000 Mules” as “singularly unimpressive” during his interview with House committee investigators looking into the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2 ... ter-fraud/

Blackvegetable » 06 Sep 2022, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:38 pm

Former Attorney General William Barr denigrated evidence of voter fraud presented in the documentary “2000 Mules” as “singularly unimpressive” during his interview with House committee investigators looking into the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2 ... ter-fraud/

And he is wrong.  Wouldn't be the first time.  See for yourself.  Of course your confirmation bias will likely preclude it from penetration.  I've seen it and gone through it.  And I've done the math.

Blackvegetable » 06 Sep 2022, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:38 pm

Former Attorney General William Barr denigrated evidence of voter fraud presented in the documentary “2000 Mules” as “singularly unimpressive” during his interview with House committee investigators looking into the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2 ... ter-fraud/

Bill Barr is balls deep in you tonight, I hope he doesn’t let your asshole slam shut when he pulls out.

Neo » 06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 2:01 pm

I have withheld judgment to this point, waiting for promised smoking gun evidence to conclusively show votes were manipulated electronically. Two years is enough time for such evidence to appear, it's absence indicates that tales of CIA connected voting machine purveyors rigging the election are likely false. 

That said, the extremes that the opposition to Trump went to, violated and tarnished institutions we are expected to rely on. Their actions and inaction gave the election to Joe Biden. It took capitalizing on a pandemic, inflamming and supporting racial animosity, and burying damning stories that shone light on Bidens criminal abuse of office.  Objective observers have no reason to trust the media. They have reason to be wary of domestic intelligence agencies. They are justified in questioning the result of the election.

Your opinion is drawn on pure emotion.  There have been audits.  There's been reviews.  Several one-offs have been caught. No mass voter fraud found or proven by legally recognized means.  2000 Mules only demonstrated cellphones in the same area as the ballots, nothing else.
 

LibDave » 06 Sep 2022, 9:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:35 pm

See 2000 mules.  You can also participate in the video documentation.  Several are already in the process of being charged.  Many will likely flip.  Very time consuming.  I ran out of time on just the first few.

2000 Mules only demonstrates cellphones near the ballots.  It doesn't do an audit which is required by the court to prove voter fraud.  

ScottMon » 06 Sep 2022, 9:58 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 9:58 pm

2000 Mules only demonstrates cellphones near the ballots.  It doesn't do an audit which is required by the court to prove voter fraud.

Have you even seen it?  Obviously not.  And you certainly haven't taken part in the review/audit.  You don't have a clue about what are really the issues.


And that isn't really what Barr said exactly.

LibDave » 06 Sep 2022, 10:03 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Sep 2022, 10:03 pm

Have you even seen it?  Obviously not.  And you certainly haven't taken part in the review/audit.  You don't have a clue about what are really the issues.

And that isn't really what Barr said exactly.

I never quoted Barr and I know that Desouza never did an audit.  They just tracked cellular use.