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sootedupCyndi » 13 Sep 2022, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2022, 3:15 pm

That would be a good start... i'm looking for a pump for the well? I have a deep water well? would a hand pump work? kind of deep? seriously?
on a silly note.. my crank radio almost sprains my arm.     lots of cranks for 30 minutes of news.. and it cranks hard.LOL

I remember ads for a quite small windmill (probably from Mother Earth News in the early 1970s), that rather than being a water pump was an air compressor. I think it worked on most any depth well that had a sound drive shoe under the casing.
The air hose was rigged to a sealed well head and compressed the air inside the casing, pushing down on the water surface thereby forcing the water up the tubing and into a gravity tank above ground. I've looked for it several times since but never found anything like it. As I remember the company was called "Little Geysers" and might have been an Amish outfit. I think they also had an attachment for it they called "Posi-pond Pumper" that allowed it to pump out of a pond.
 

freeman » 14 Sep 2022, 5:06 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 5:06 am

I remember ads for a quite small windmill (probably from Mother Earth News in the early 1970s), that rather than being a water pump was an air compressor. I think it worked on most any depth well that had a sound drive shoe under the casing.
The air hose was rigged to a sealed well head and compressed the air inside the casing, pushing down on the water surface thereby forcing the water up the tubing and into a gravity tank above ground. I've looked for it several times since but never found anything like it. As I remember the company was called "Little Geysers" and might have been an Amish outfit. I think they also had an attachment for it they called "Posi-pond Pumper" that allowed it to pump out of a pond.

Yes a hand pump would work... as in a bucket on a rope around an axle.

Skans » 12 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm

If you live inside of a city, you're screwed.  Yes, in a Nuclear war, Urbanites will be incinerated.   However, only those living inside of a 10 mile radius.  In fact, those living just 50 miles from a large city would be completely spared and wouldn't suffer even any bad radiation effects.

So, most of Middle America would be spared.  Unless you live right in a big city, there really is nothing to worry about when it comes to a nuclear war. 

it was memorial day 1981 when I first heard that a nuclear bomb implodes before exploding the devastation delivered. That got my brain to thinking what triggers the destruction at implosion was pulling the neutrons between protons and electrons of molecular content in the vicinity of the device causing a short circuit in the gaseous characteristics in the atmosphere and organic results present vaporizing instantly.

That famous electromagnetic pulse during detonation imploding action resulting in an equal and opposite explosion. Why when in designing the atomic bomb there were scientists thinking the whole atmosphere would ignite and destroy the whole planet because all science depends on relative time semantics instead of actual time is stationary event horizons between results mutually evolving in series parallel proximity now.

LibDave » 14 Sep 2022, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 5:16 am

Yes a hand pump would work... as in a bucket on a rope around an axle.

She's got a deep well, likely with 4" diameter casing - 6" tops if it is for residential water.
 
I did just now spot this:
https://www.susprep.com/off-grid-water/ ... and-pumps/
"The Stalwart emergency hand water pump
This emergency hand pump is a possible solution to this dilemma. It is less expensive than a full-fledged hand pump, but yet it is touted as being fairly easy to operate and can work with static water levels down to 170 feet (supposedly). And best of all, it fits right along side all the pipe and wire in your well, meaning you don't have to pull anything to install or use this hand pump. It is fairly rudimentary, so don't think we are talking about a full-sized, real hand pump, but this could have its place.  You'll need to find out if it is able to handle freezing weather and I question it's durability.  But it certainly could be better than nothing!  Here is the website for more info."
 
Though the product description says it will only lift 100'
https://www.flojak.com/flojak-original- ... -pump-kit/
@sooted up Cyndi  
 
 

Skans » 13 Sep 2022, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2022, 8:19 am

Unclean water is only a problem for Urbanites.  Not folks who live in rural areas  - they have wells.
4-wheel UTV's are what we need in the Country - no roads necessary.
Food?  Every person who is self-reliant has a stockpile of food, seeds, etc.
Antibiotics?  No problem, stock up on Fishmox.   https://fishmoxfishflex.com/collections ... ntibiotics
 

Most have been switched over to a rural commune water system that needs grid power the fishmox is probably made three to four thousand miles away with no or slow shipping after a world war happens.  Those little golf carts need fuel and they are probably not a flex fuel vehicle so that you could possibly use alcohol from a still and the still is going to take up a lot of time that you would need for trying to get food.

Since alcohol requires a richer air to fuel ratio, it's necessary to bore out the main jet orifice when using ethanol fuel. The increase will be on the order of 20 to 40 percent.

To do the conversion you will need a screwdriver, wrenches, vise-grip pliers, a putty knife, a pair of needle-nose pliers, and an electric hand drill with bits obviously.

Keep in mind that removing a carburetor involves dealing with gaskets. Unless you planned ahead and have spare gaskets or have some brand of gasket in a tube for high temperature uses then you are possibly going to end up with an engine that doesn't run.. on alcohol OR gasoline.

In order to take the carburetor apart, you'll first have to remove its air filter housing and all its hoses, tubes, and paraphernalia from the engine. If you need instructions on this then you probably shouldn't be attempting this anyway. This article assumes you have the knowledge and engine experience to remove a carburetor.

omh » 14 Sep 2022, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 5:30 am

it was memorial day 1981 when I first heard that a nuclear bomb implodes before exploding the devastation delivered. That got my brain to thinking what triggers the destruction at implosion was pulling the neutrons between protons and electrons of molecular content in the vicinity of the device causing a short circuit in the gaseous characteristics in the atmosphere and organic results present vaporizing instantly.

That famous electromagnetic pulse during detonation imploding action resulting in an equal and opposite explosion. Why when in designing the atomic bomb there were scientists thinking the whole atmosphere would ignite and destroy the whole planet because all science depends on relative time semantics instead of actual time is stationary event horizons between results mutually evolving in series parallel proximity now.

It's 2022, Sole, and everyone by now knows exactly how a nuclear weapon works.  Pakis are making them in back alleys along with guns, knives and daal chawal.
 
 

LibDave » 13 Sep 2022, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2022, 12:49 pm

I don't think that is the plan, but I can see where it would be a problem.

A manual Doomsday Machine.
Kind of unreliable since it's asking people to commit suicide...

Skans » 14 Sep 2022, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 8:27 am

It's 2022, Sole, and everyone by now knows exactly how a nuclear weapon works.  Pakis are making them in back alleys along with guns, knives and daal chawal.
 
 

2,022 3/4ths revolutions the planet circle the star, not counting the rotations and lunar cycles also. That in 20 year cycle between conceived to those becoming 1 of 2 parents after birth changing population of all ancestries forward in plain sight numbers currently present regardless species and variety gone extinct, still reproducing, inception of another variety of life evolving forward here reproductively present naturally limited to inhabiting space occupying the moment living in series parallel displacement 5 generations dense population.

101 generations plus almost 3 year old great great grandchildren left evolving forward now. all over 7.8 billion estimated existing in this atmosphere and socially less than a million understand kinetic genetics inside out keeping it a deep state of mind secret removing anyone capable of explaining Natural World Order of the ever changing population existing in plain sight.

Specific means, motives, methods, specificity to arrival and departure since arriving a great great grandchild and having become 1 of 16 great great grandparents to next generation of great great grandchildren arriving one at a time already born to a populating species never same reproductions twice.

Actual life vs history of governing realities ignoring now is eternity as ancestrally practiced globally within this species. What people did to deny their actual time being equally here. No good deed goes unpunished and honesty is silenced by rule of law corrupting each great great grandchild added to "It takes a village to sustain doubt until extinction event arrives by sedition or seduction by power of suggestion.".

Skans » 12 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2022, 3:02 pm

If you live inside of a city, you're screwed.  Yes, in a Nuclear war, Urbanites will be incinerated.   However, only those living inside of a 10 mile radius.  In fact, those living just 50 miles from a large city would be completely spared and wouldn't suffer even any bad radiation effects.

So, most of Middle America would be spared.  Unless you live right in a big city, there really is nothing to worry about when it comes to a nuclear war.

More people died from adverse reactions to the covid vaccine.

Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2022, 10:08 am

More people died from adverse reactions to the covid vaccine.

If a nuclear airburst off went on the north side of Boston at least you can say you’re vaxxed.  
 

Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2022, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2022, 10:08 am

More people died from adverse reactions to the covid vaccine.

Or, from covid itself - we survived.  A country boy will survive.
 

Skans » 15 Sep 2022, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2022, 10:37 am

Or, from covid itself - we survived.  A country boy will survive.

I was being sarcastic, people.

Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2022, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2022, 10:39 am

I was being sarcastic, people.

I was being serious, people.
 

Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2022, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2022, 10:39 am

I was being sarcastic, people.

You wore out your plausible denial excuse long time ago, decades even. I dedicate this next sentence to Al Gore and Michael Moore's Inconvenient truth,

the universe never exceeds evolving as a new total sum only arriving here now as self evident in organic life great great grandchildren only arrive one at a time as never staying same total sum again since conceived to replace numbers displaced already here.

Skans » 14 Sep 2022, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 8:27 am

It's 2022,
 
 

the date counts human intellectual counting rotations of the planet, orbiting cycles of lunar phases new moon to new moon, solstices, equinoxes, solstices to equinoxes each revolution the planet makes evolving is never same total sum present forward, currently here.

Lets play code speak vocabulary like nuclear family, genetic timing of how, why, what, where when, which whom was here or not at all? 0 or 1 as conceived to sustain/s/ing/ed numbers occupying space each generation since inception of homo sapiens lived specifically living in the atmosphere now. Verb lived backwards is devil in the details of anything else is possible. Specific accountability within specific gravity results mutually evolving here now.

Mind over matter. contextual possibilities willingly takes precedence over genetic displacements present within their own species genetics provides equal time to each conceived to replace their 30 previously alive ancestry members combining 93.75% their one of a kind Brain, DNA sequencing like no other before or since conceived or never existed at all.

Intellectual concepts of manifested destiny or Divine Providence as context over content [propositions of we believe life cannot be limited to genetics eternally separating those alive here now.

Shame on you weaponizing power of suggestion forward working hope, faith, charity into world ordered chaos, corruption, doubt, mayhem, madness, misery on anyone not staying in assigned character role playing cradle to grave regardless 1 of 16 great great grandparent generation, 1 of 8 great grandparent generation, 1 of 4 grandparent generation, 1 of 2 parenting generation, and last and most important each arriving great great grandchild changing current population forward now one ar a time mutually evolving until great great grandchild generation doesn't have arrivals born forward here.

I have a bunker in ND, it's cheap to buy. But expensive to furnish. It's empty right now.

https://www.terravivos.com/secure/vivosxpoint.htm

I'm waiting for high speed internet, so I can work from home there, as I do here.

When it happens, I'm **** outta here! I'll live on the floor and eat outta cans and rations!

The Valley sucks!!! It's really friggin bad!!!

RunningWithScissors » 16 Sep 2022, 5:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2022, 5:14 am

I'm waiting for high speed internet, so I can work from home there, as I do here.

You think you're gonna work from your bunker on the internet after a nuclear war?

I admire your optimism but I'm afraid it's a bit... unrealistic..

 


 
 

freeman » 14 Sep 2022, 5:06 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2022, 5:06 am

I remember ads for a quite small windmill (probably from Mother Earth News in the early 1970s), that rather than being a water pump was an air compressor. I think it worked on most any depth well that had a sound drive shoe under the casing.
The air hose was rigged to a sealed well head and compressed the air inside the casing, pushing down on the water surface thereby forcing the water up the tubing and into a gravity tank above ground. I've looked for it several times since but never found anything like it. As I remember the company was called "Little Geysers" and might have been an Amish outfit. I think they also had an attachment for it they called "Posi-pond Pumper" that allowed it to pump out of a pond.
 

Me 2. Three separate basic models. Horizontal blades, vertical blades, s rotor. I always thought the s rotor showed more efficiency than the other two for low air speed conditions.

Kind of like the cold processing method for making maple syrup.