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This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't. The ever more present gadgets in our cars always have some sort of malfunction. The fridge might be state of the art but I can't tell you how many times the ice maker on my two year old fridge has broken. The light on the stove remains on and the TV Fire Stick has to be continually rebooted. This article in the Atlantic is from 2017 but mentions the new "advancement" of the public restroom. The automatic faucets don't come on and toilets that are "automatic" yet either don't flush or flush 3 times. Do we really need all this progress? Is it really even progress to not turn a knob? Does it save any time or energy? Link to article here.

Monderegal » 20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm

This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't. The ever more present gadgets in our cars always have some sort of malfunction. The fridge might be state of the art but I can't tell you how many times the ice maker on my two year old fridge has broken. The light on the stove remains on and the TV Fire Stick has to be continually rebooted. This article in the Atlantic is from 2017 but mentions the new "advancement" of the public restroom. The automatic faucets don't come on and toilets that are "automatic" yet either don't flush or flush 3 times. Do we really need all this progress? Is it really even progress to not turn a knob? Does it save any time or energy? Link to article here.

Remember when there were no  "devices"  ?

You did not have a 100,000  "friends"  . . . .  and you had a real life !

JinnMartini » 20 Sep 2022, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 8:15 pm

Remember when there were no  "devices"  ?

You did not have a 100,000  "friends"  . . . .  and you had a real life !

My life is about .6TB.
I have a 5K life.
The VR viewer is too immersive to be a mere "device".

I.Am.Happy.

Monderegal » 20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm

This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't. The ever more present gadgets in our cars always have some sort of malfunction. The fridge might be state of the art but I can't tell you how many times the ice maker on my two year old fridge has broken. The light on the stove remains on and the TV Fire Stick  Do we really need all this progress? Is it really even progress to not turn a knob? Does it save any time or energy? Link to article here.

OH! I love this...  Nothing works!!!  The tv goes to a blank screen. and I have to pull the plug to get it back,.
My frig is howling..

Can't get a light for the bathroom- so I  stuck a lamp in there.. unbelievable... 

Almost killed the dog. Because he was stepping on the buttons.. and the automatic car window was  going  up and choking him..  And my buttons wouldnt bring it down.. Got him out of it..  and he was ok.. but boy!  What was wrong with a roll up window..

Fought with the printer all nite. Got so dam mad. Bought a new one.  Stuck on paper jam with no paper in it.. error.. error..

Windows 10  is a nightmare compared to windows 7... no need of ALL this garbage!!! all the bells and whistles that make things WORSE! 
AND ALL the chinese junk that doesn't last or work too.
brand new sink plunger from the hardware store- not the dollar store. Lasted for about two plunges.
I look around for vintage.. like can openers- or ice cube trays.
 
 

Monderegal » 20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm

This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't. The ever more present gadgets in our cars always have some sort of malfunction. The fridge might be state of the art but I can't tell you how many times the ice maker on my two year old fridge has broken. The light on the stove remains on and the TV Fire Stick has to be continually rebooted. This article in the Atlantic is from 2017 but mentions the new "advancement" of the public restroom. The automatic faucets don't come on and toilets that are "automatic" yet either don't flush or flush 3 times. Do we really need all this progress? Is it really even progress to not turn a knob? Does it save any time or energy? Link to article here.

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I look around for vintage.. like can openers- or ice cube trays.\
The best ice cube trays are clearly those made of silicone, and they have not been around long enough to call them "vintage".
You can easily pop the cubes out of a silicon tray without running water over them, as you had to do with the plastic trays. Before that, there were the aluminum trays that had this lever you had to pull to break the ice and get it out of the trays.

Can openers, there is just one best: Zyliss Lock and lift, made in Switzerland. I don't know how old the design is, but it is not old enough to call it "vintage".
Electric can openers need batteries, and batteries need replacing and can damage the device.

 

Xavier_Onassis » 21 Sep 2022, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2022, 11:46 am

I look around for vintage.. like can openers- or ice cube trays.\
The best ice cube trays are clearly those made of silicone, and they have not been around long enough to call them "vintage".
You can easily pop the cubes out of a silicon tray without running water over them, as you had to do with the plastic trays. Before that, there were the aluminum trays that had this lever you had to pull to break the ice and get it out of the trays.

Can openers, there is just one best: Zyliss Lock and lift, made in Switzerland. I don't know how old the design is, but it is not old enough to call it "vintage".
Electric can openers need batteries, and batteries need replacing and can damage the device.

Oh- I think that's what i have.. Its not plastic.. But it looks like it. I also got those metal ones you pull back. Those were cool.
It's really funny... because I inherited everything here.. Some of its old-old. Like I have a potato peeler- probably my age.. its STILL better then the new ones.. And Revere ware stainless pots and pans.. Older then me..  Screw these non -sticks they dont last either.
 

Monderegal » 20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm

This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't.
 

I found your OP to be an interesting observation.  I personally have 2 cars, both stick shifts. And, one motorcycle, which obviously is manual shfit/clutch.
I have only owned one automatic transmission car since college and that was back in 2003 for a couple of years before I totaled it.

When I drive my wife's car, which is an automatic (she can drive a stick well, though), the sucky transmission always has a lag - and it's an Audi.  Freaking thing has a supercharger, but a ******-shift transmission.  Freaking useless!

I am sure that my next car/truck will have to have an automatic transmission - I dread owning such a horrid thing!  I would like to find a 4x4 truck with a stick shift built around 2015 with really low miles on it.  Even that would be hard to find.

Even the C8 Corvette - NO STICK SHIFT, JUST ******-SHIFT!
 
 

Here's my Grail Car, which will DOES NOT have a ******-shift!! The Spyker....

Skans » 21 Sep 2022, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2022, 4:53 pm

I found your OP to be an interesting observation.  I personally have 2 cars, both stick shifts. And, one motorcycle, which obviously is manual shfit/clutch.
I have only owned one automatic transmission car since college and that was back in 2003 for a couple of years before I totaled it.

When I drive my wife's car, which is an automatic (she can drive a stick well, though), the sucky transmission always has a lag - and it's an Audi.  Freaking thing has a supercharger, but a ******-shift transmission.  Freaking useless!

I am sure that my next car/truck will have to have an automatic transmission - I dread owning such a horrid thing!  I would like to find a 4x4 truck with a stick shift built around 2015 with really low miles on it.  Even that would be hard to find.

Even the C8 Corvette - NO STICK SHIFT, JUST ******-SHIFT!

Why do you want to work that hard???? I haven't had a stick shift since the 90's?
I would like a simple roll up window tho.. Nope

Cucurbitophobia » 21 Sep 2022, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2022, 5:09 pm

This belongs in Water Cooler
@Deezer Shoove

Where did you get that sharp knife? It actually carves a pumpkin.    

sootedupCyndi » 21 Sep 2022, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2022, 4:57 pm

Why do you want to work that hard???? I haven't had a stick shift since the 90's?
I would like a simple roll up window tho.. Nope

Well, without sounding crude, Cyndi, you're a woman.  That's why real men call what women prefer to drive (move-a-lever-and-go with no effort) "******-shift".

With a stick-shift (really just a manual transmission), you have full control of the car.  You do not need to break as often.  Gas milage is higher.  The car is lighter and generally more responsive.  The only exception are the extremely high-dollar automatic transmissions in high-end super cars - their response time is as good as a manual shifter.
 

Monderegal » 20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 7:20 pm

This is a little off topic for politics but I saw in my email today that apparently the stick shift will not be offered in automobiles anymore. Automatic transmission works but now just about everything else doesn't. The ever more present gadgets in our cars always have some sort of malfunction. The fridge might be state of the art but I can't tell you how many times the ice maker on my two year old fridge has broken. The light on the stove remains on and the TV Fire Stick has to be continually rebooted. This article in the Atlantic is from 2017 but mentions the new "advancement" of the public restroom. The automatic faucets don't come on and toilets that are "automatic" yet either don't flush or flush 3 times. Do we really need all this progress? Is it really even progress to not turn a knob? Does it save any time or energy? Link to article here.

People sell the **** and idiots buy it.

sootedupCyndi » 21 Sep 2022, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2022, 11:54 am

Oh- I think that's what i have.. Its not plastic.. But it looks like it. I also got those metal ones you pull back. Those were cool.
It's really funny... because I inherited everything here.. Some of its old-old. Like I have a potato peeler- probably my age.. its STILL better then the new ones.. And Revere ware stainless pots and pans.. Older then me..  Screw these non -sticks they dont last either.

You can still buy great potato peelers and cookware online, you just have to know what to look for. And of course, it will be expensive.
The best place to look for kitchen stuff is yard sales.
I recently bought a large steel German made pressure cooker, that looks as though it has never been used, for $20. Amazon sells these for over $80, plus sales tax.

Nonstick pots and pans are convenient, perhaps, but of course the Teflon wears off and gets burned or scratched, so they are essentially disposable.  Copper bottomed steel Revere ware and Le Creuset cast iron cookware are basically indestructible.

There are dozens of types of plastic. Ice cube trays are metal, almost always aluminum, or some sort of plastic or silicon (also a type of plastic). I have yet to see an ice cube tray made of anything else. To be useful, it has to be easy to get the ice out of the tray. That would not work with glass or ceramics.

 

DeezerShoove » 20 Sep 2022, 8:56 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 8:56 pm

My life is about .6TB.
I have a 5K life.
The VR viewer is too immersive to be a mere "device".

I.Am.Happy.

VR will have more impact on the human animal than anything since radio or moving pictures. Loving it and the potential is limitless. 
 

My Subaru Outback has an automatic transmission with paddle shifters, so I can downshift rather than use the brakes and put it into a manual shifter mode, where it has 5 speeds I can shift up and down with.

No one is forced to have an automatic transmission, there are plenty of older cars with standard shifters.
 How about crank up windows and manual doorlocks?  Does anyone prefer those?

Neo » 22 Sep 2022, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Sep 2022, 9:39 am

VR will have more impact on the human animal than anything since radio or moving pictures. Loving it and the potential is limitless. 
 

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omh » 22 Sep 2022, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

22 Sep 2022, 11:48 am

limitless potential and only one kinetic way it works all the time evolving changing total sum here constantly no
 

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Automatic transmissions waste fuel via slippage.
Considerable heat dissipated  via the transmissions cooling system is proof that much "work" is lost..
A manual trans takes less HP to turn...too.
Even though many cars have "lock up" torque converters once you reach cruising speed..there is a MPG penalty that comes with the auto trans / fluid drive.
 

JinnMartini » 20 Sep 2022, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Sep 2022, 8:15 pm

Remember when there were no  "devices"  ?

You did not have a 100,000  "friends"  . . . .  and you had a real life !

I used to have maybe 20 friends  . . .  and I'm maybe exaggerating too

We used to raid the orchards and fields too !
Stealing strawberries and peaches and apples  . . .  
Not to bring home  . . .  just to eat them right there !

They're all gone now  . . .  only high-rise buildings are there now  . . .  but I have 100,000 internet  "friends" !