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Neo » 24 Sep 2022, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 4:25 pm

Try deleting 30000 documents under subpoena in a divorce case and see what happens to you. The Capitol Hill yeehawdists were obnoxious but nothing compared to even a mild blm riot, of which there were 587.

The Capitol Hill yeehawdists were obnoxious but nothing compared to even a mild blm riot, of which there were 587. 

Blithe, isn't he?

Blackvegetable » 24 Sep 2022, 7:55 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 7:55 pm

You're an idiot.

"The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan — which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority."The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""
PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

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GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Sep 2022, 8:11 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:11 pm

"The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan — which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority."The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""
PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

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Stop, Idiot.

Has Grifty offered this defense at any point in either the request for the special master, or before Judge Dearie?
 

Blackvegetable » 24 Sep 2022, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:17 pm

Stop, Idiot.

Has Grifty offered this defense at any point in either the request for the special master, or before Judge Dearie?

It's not a defense, its a power he enjoyed that has to be respected regardless of Trump claiming it. 
 

Blackvegetable » 24 Sep 2022, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:17 pm

Stop, Idiot.

Has Grifty offered this defense at any point in either the request for the special master, or before Judge Dearie?

"The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan — which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority."The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""
PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?


 
 

nuckinfutz » 23 Sep 2022, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2022, 11:23 am

More!

Didja say more CARTOONS, NF?  Ask and ye shall receive.

NOT satire:


 

FOS » 24 Sep 2022, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 9:30 am

this is all just retarded. I dont give a rats fart about what is classified, nor do i care about LGBTLMNOPIA1+

We already know this FUZ.  All you care about is jump starting the genocide of Jews.
 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm

PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

The Politifact article also says that Trump passed information to Russian agents before that information was declassified.  So...

1. Too late to start thinking about declassifying something after he already handed it over to the enemy.

2. Nobody should be giving any classified information to Russian agents, whether he has the authority or not.

3. Based on information we have from US Intelligence Services of the Russians acting directly to interfere in the 2016 election, that a state of war has existed between this country and Russia since before Trump entered office.  Which means any transfer of classified information to Russian agents by Trump makes him guilty of treason.
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm

"The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan — which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority."The ....

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""
PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

Among the many oddities of Trump’s filings in the case is the fact that, despite his stating in public that he declassified the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago, his lawyers have repeatedly failed to make that argument in court. This may be, as former CIA attorney Brian Greer has noted, because Trump never actually took any steps to declassify materials and claiming otherwise in a court filing or under oath would risk sanctions. Instead, Trump’s legal team has relied on hints and obfuscation—as in its response to the Justice Department’s motion for a partial stay before the Eleventh Circuit, in which the Trump legal team states that the client “had full authority to declassify documents” without actually asserting that he did so. 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/eleventh-ci ... leans-mess

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2022, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 6:40 am

Among the many oddities of Trump’s filings in the case is the fact that, despite his stating in public that he declassified the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago, his lawyers have repeatedly failed to make that argument in court. This may be, as former CIA attorney Brian Greer has noted, because Trump never actually took any steps to declassify materials and claiming otherwise in a court filing or under oath would risk sanctions. Instead, Trump’s legal team has relied on hints and obfuscation—as in its response to the Justice Department’s motion for a partial stay before the Eleventh Circuit, in which the Trump legal team states that the client “had full authority to declassify documents” without actually asserting that he did so. 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/eleventh-ci ... leans-mess

Rule of law doesn't follow natural order of genetic progression results occupying the moment here. Reality protects the human right to deny how living self evidently exists as ancestrally displaced here now.

IkeBana » 25 Sep 2022, 6:18 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 6:18 am

The Politifact article also says that Trump passed information to Russian agents before that information was declassified.  So...

1. Too late to start thinking about declassifying something after he already handed it over to the enemy.

2. Nobody should be giving any classified information to Russian agents, whether he has the authority or not.

3. Based on information we have from US Intelligence Services of the Russians acting directly to interfere in the 2016 election, that a state of war has existed between this country and Russia since before Trump entered office.  Which means any transfer of classified information to Russian agents by Trump makes him guilty of treason.

What were the "secrets" that Trump passed to the "Russian Agents"...?     

Why is  your Texas Law Professor privy to this information but not you ...?     

How many votes did  "The Russians" get  switched from Hillary to Trump...?     
[just give me a rough guess]         

 

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2022, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 6:40 am

BLAHBLAHBLAH

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""

IkeBana » 24 Sep 2022, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 7:18 pm

Right!  One just has to stay on top of a threat to our system of democratic elections where the candidate who gets the most votes should be the winner.

Sure thing Gloria......anything not 100% onboard with the idiocracy is a threat to democracy.....too bad were live in a republic isn't it?....you all are the biggest threat to the republic.


Nipplehead here spends too much time listening to idiots tell him what to think....he know lives in ancient greece

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2022, 6:51 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 6:51 am

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will.""

Trump has said on social media and in television interviews that the FBI planted items when they searched his Mar-a-Lago residence and private club on Aug. 8. He also claimed to have declassified documents found in that search that were marked classified and were highly sensitive. His lawyers have not made similar assertions in court, however, instead saying they have not reviewed the seized materials and are unable to confirm whether the government’s inventory list is accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... eclassify/


to his rubes he says many things, under oath.....not so much.

Can you figure out why?

Neo » 24 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm

It's not a defense, its a power he enjoyed that has to be respected regardless of Trump claiming it.

No...it is something he is asserting, in public.

In court, they don't dare.
 

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2022, 7:06 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 7:06 am

No...it is something he is asserting, in public.

In court, they don't dare.
 

Time to bring the legal system to natural justice instead of laws ordering ancestors to comply with denying how and why they specifically are alive now so those in charge stay in control of suggesting life exceeds evolving here now state of mind scenarios debating what if we against what about they, them, those people not complying to living as context defines truth to faith rather than position of displacement forward here now.

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2022, 7:05 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 7:05 am

Keep trying....!!
With all the time and energy you expend on a daily basis obsessing over Trump I am sure you'll eventually get him arrested for something...!!    
 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2022, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 7:13 am

Keep trying....!!
With all the time and energy you expend on a daily basis obsessing over Trump I am sure you'll eventually get him arrested for something...!!    

And you will have no idea why...

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2022, 7:22 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2022, 7:22 am

And you will have no idea why...

Every idea you debate came from someone else. You only know how to mind what others chose to defy as real.

GHETTOBLASTER » 24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2022, 8:57 pm

"The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan  addresses this line of authority."The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exist
 

Right, his superpower. He declassified by telling himself the documents are declassified, then classifying his declassification by keeping it a secret. Only in Trumpworld is this not daffy. 

Anyway, his having this superpower as president is not in question. Rather, it is the question Trumpers like to banter around while no one else pays it attention and focuses instead on the real question, to wit: his being out of office since January 20, 2021 but still having the documents, in his basement, about 1,000 of them and when asked to return the documents lied that he has them. And some of the documents were not only classified but have been identified by the Defense Department as containing the nation's most sensitive national security secrets. Now the man wants us to believe the danger of exposing these secrets by keeping them in an unsecured location has been erased because he declassified them.

I get it that Trump's supporters are dumbbells where he's concerned and accept as good and true whatever he tells them is good and true, but this seems it should strain even that level of devotion. At any rate, so far he's explained his magic only in his cocoon at Fox News. He hasn't dared say it in court. Now he has to
if he's going to keep it up.