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FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:34 pm

I know. They create money and charge interest on that created money. Thus the entire monetary system works off debt to the money creators. Everyone knows this **** dude. You need to advance beyond this point.

...our entire society/world 'works off debt to the money creators', ya f@cking retard...not only that, 'they' create the social/legal environment we live our lives in, dumb@ss...       

...but apparently you feel that discussing puppet$, tranny bathrooms, endless ism  jism, etcetercrap is more important...        
 

...who's 'they', you blathering phony? how do they do it? who get it first? what is the source of value of 'dollars'?   
 

peepee » 11 Oct 2022, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:40 pm

...our entire society/world 'works off debt to the money creators', ya f@cking retard...     

...but apparently you feel that discussing puppet$, tranny bathrooms, endless ism  jism, etcetercrap is more important...      

It doesn't matter. All that matters is who they are and whether they are on my side. 

Power is power. Ultimately military power has the final say. 

An army could arrest every member of the federal reserve and send them and their family to caps and the fed couldn't do **** about it. 

Military power is also power. 
 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:43 pm

It doesn't matter. All that matters is who they are and whether they are on my side. 

Power is power. Ultimately military power has the final say. 

An army could arrest every member of the federal reserve and send them and their family to caps and the fed couldn't do **** about it. 

Military power is also power.

...the guys who control the money control the political class and the military class and every other class, you gd fool...   

peepee » 11 Oct 2022, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:47 pm

...the guys who control the money control the political class and the military class and every other class, you gd fool... 

Good. I'd prefer they are on my side rather than my enemy. 

You can never change the basic problem Of power. Power will always exist no matter how much you stomp your little feet. 
 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:51 pm

Good. I'd prefer they are on my side rather than my enemy. 

You can never change the basic problem Of power. Power will always exist no matter how much you stomp your little feet.

...who's on your 'side' besides puppet trump, sjc, ghettoblowboy, and a few other gd fools [and  monetary ignoramuses] here?   

...'power'/government is a necessary evil...if/when it's exercised justly it's a good thing, you lame moron... a stooooooooooopid f@ck [and monetary ignoramus] like you should never get anywhere near 'power'/government... wordle...   
 

peepee » 11 Oct 2022, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:59 pm

...who's on your 'side' besides puppet trump, sjc, ghettoblowboy, and a few other gd fools [and  monetary ignoramuses] here?   

...'power'/government is a necessary evil...if/when it's exercised justly it's a good thing, you lame moron... a stooooooooooopid f@ck [and monetary ignoramus] like you should never get anywhere near 'power'/government... wordle... 

Trump is not on my side.

I dont reslly care about whether government is just. I care about whether it is on my side.

K?
 

Zeets2 » 11 Oct 2022, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:18 pm

Nonsense.  The differences are both huge and obvious to anyone who hasn't been asleep for the past 14 years.
If you don't see how similar the Obama and Biden administrations are to each other and how they are both VASTLY different than the Republican vision, than you're simply not being objective.  Trump was a 180 degree about-face from where Obama led us, and Biden did a full 180 back to what Obama (who is STILL in charge) had been working towards; a socialist government more in tune with what most of Europe has become than what our Founding Fathers had envisioned.
And you're a fool if you believe that acknowledging those extreme differences is nothing more than blind partisanship.

I believe that you find them only slightly different because you still center your allegiance around your own Marxist heroes, and anything else lies in the same  bucket of deplorables you use.

yeh, for example the Afghanistan occupation.  It carried on thru multiple administrations of both parties so we can see how they were vastly different on that issue.

Every important issue they agree on.  Every triviality they fight over, to trick Marxists like you

SJConspirator » 09 Oct 2022, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Oct 2022, 3:19 pm

3.  Quality production is discouraged
Capitalism depends on a never ending cycle of purchase, consumption, disposal, purchase.  In the previous point, I demonstrated that the disposal portion of the cycle is conveniently ignored, and that problem becomes exacerbated by planned obsolescence.  Capitalism creates junk designed to break down quickly in order to speed the cycle and encourage faster and more purchase and consumption,  there is no profit in building commodities to last.

4.  The abundance paradox
As technology and automation increase, production of goods increase to the point that there is an over saturation of commodities on the market with not enough buyers.  Rather than distribute this excess of wealth among those who produce it, Capitalism demands that it be stolen from the workers/taxpayers and hoarded via the function of periodic “bailouts”.  This is simply robbery of the working class .. thanks Capitalism

How much more the socialist plan? All models are made of human beings.  The worst I've seen are the socialist/communist/marxist models.



 

SJConspirator » 11 Oct 2022, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 3:30 pm

yeh, for example the Afghanistan occupation.  It carried on thru multiple administrations of both parties so we can see how they were vastly different on that issue.

Every important issue they agree on.  Every triviality they fight over, to trick Marxists like you

Even sillier nonsense, starting with your idiotic conviction that I'm a Marxist when I've fully embraced capitalism and succeeded greatly with it my entire life, starting up and operating 4 businesses of my own and a partnership in another in over 50 years?

You think the border security Biden has given away is a triviality?
Do you think Biden bringing us to the brink of nuclear war (which would NEVER have happened under Trump) is a triviality?
You think Democrats promising to take away guns in opposition to the 2nd Amendment is trivial?
Do you believe that Biden's shutting down of much of the US oil production and causing the gas price to skyrocket would have happened under Trump?
Are taxes also trivial to you, or did you not pay less tax under Trump?  Are you taking into account the "hidden tax" of record high inflation?
Do you think Biden's selling off of our Strategic Oil Reserve to China and other countries is a trivial matter?
Is the obvious corruption of the FBI with there selective prosecution that Biden is supporting wholeheartedly is something trivial that Congress agrees on?

You can't possibly substantiate such an idiotic conviction that both parties agree on every important issue.  
It's beyond laughable.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzy78R9tqo

Zeets2 » 11 Oct 2022, 6:15 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 6:15 pm

Even sillier nonsense, starting with your idiotic conviction that I'm a Marxist when I've fully embraced capitalism and succeeded greatly with it my entire life, starting up and operating 4 businesses of my own and a partnership in another in over 50 years?

You think the border security Biden has given away is a triviality?
Do you think Biden bringing us to the brink of nuclear war (which would NEVER have happened under Trump) is a triviality?
You think Democrats promising to take away guns in opposition to the 2nd Amendment is trivial?
Do you believe that Biden's shutting down of much of the US oil production and causing the gas price to skyrocket would have happened under Trump?
Are taxes also trivial to you, or did you not pay less tax under Trump?  Are you taking into account the "hidden tax" of record high inflation?
Do you think Biden's selling off of our Strategic Oil Reserve to China and other countries is a trivial matter?
Is the obvious corruption of the FBI with there selective prosecution that Biden is supporting wholeheartedly is something trivial that Congress agrees on?

You can't possibly substantiate such an idiotic conviction that both parties agree on every important issue.  
It's beyond laughable.

Trump breaks the mold.  He is the only one that is a little different than all the rest.

Ifa Democrat had introduced trade tariffs, Repubs would have screamed bloody murder.  Since it was a Repub, they're okay with it.

If a Democrat had done it, Dem voters would say it's the best thing since sliced bread.  Since it was Trump, they hated it.

Same policy elicits different reactions based on who implements it.  THAT is silly nonsense you swim in
 

SJConspirator » 11 Oct 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 6:37 pm

Ifa Democrat had introduced trade tariffs, Repubs would have screamed bloody murder.  Since it was a Repub, they're okay with it.

THAT is silly nonsense you swim in

Now you're bordering on pure insanity.  
You actually think Democrat voters LIKE our open border because Biden made it happen?
Do they like paying 3X the amount for gas over what it was under Trump? Don't believe that every Democrat is as dumb as BV is to deny that Biden caused it!
Did you hear a single complaint from Dems when Trump's energy policies brought us gas for under $2 a gallon? 
Or that they really don't want to see that price again now?
You think Dem voters are happy that Biden's sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine to fund a proxy war that could lead to nuclear war with Russia?
Think Dems in cities run by liberals like the tens of thousands of homeless who are allowed to camp on their streets or sidewalk in front of their home?
Think Republicans would object if Biden somehow brought inflation back down to under 2% where Trump had it?
Is it your impression that Democrat voters don't mind the fact that Biden has done nothing about the fentanyl crisis killing hundreds of people every month?
Or that they wouldn't support a crackdown by a Republican that put a stop to it?
Think they would object if Biden suddenly started to complete Trump's border wall and restarted construction on the Keystone pipeline?
Would Republicans object to seeing grocery stores once again with fully stocked shelves just because it came about under Biden?

Those are NOT trivial issues and each party has marked differences on the way each should be handled.  And you'll see that as millions of Democrats either turn out to vote Republican next month, or stay home and skip voting entirely because they're so disgusted with what Biden has done.  

Think Republican voters feel the same way?

 
 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm

Trump is not on my side.

I dont reslly care about whether government is just. I care about whether it is on my side.

K?

...and that's precisely why only a f@cking fool would want you/your stinking favorite politicians anywhere near government 'power' ...btw, stfu about 'power'...'government' is a much better/more precise term in any discussion between you and me....  
 
K?       

 

SJConspirator » 11 Oct 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 6:37 pm

Trump breaks the mold.  He is the only one that is a little different than all the rest.

     

...your puppet trump's policies are largely straight out of the republicrat playbook, dumb@ss... he differs in his stinking style.. the substance of his stinking worldview and policy tendencies is largely middle-of-the-road mainstream... 

...[republicrat puppet enthusiasts.....ugh...]   
 
 

FOS » 11 Oct 2022, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 2:34 pm

I know. They create money and charge interest on that created money. Thus the entire monetary system works off debt to the money creators. Everyone knows this **** dude. You need to advance beyond this point. 

you left out taxes on earnings. taxes per exchanged use of currency, etc. time, breathing, drinking, eating, existing as naturally occupying time inhabiting space equally created by genetic changes evolving forward here each at one time lived honoring devil in the details of maybe.

Zeets2 » 11 Oct 2022, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2022, 7:08 pm

Now you're bordering on pure insanity.  
You actually think Democrat voters LIKE our open border because Biden made it happen?
Do they like paying 3X the amount for gas over what it was under Trump? Don't believe that every Democrat is as dumb as BV is to deny that Biden caused it!
Did you hear a single complaint from Dems when Trump's energy policies brought us gas for under $2 a gallon? 
Or that they really don't want to see that price again now?
You think Dem voters are happy that Biden's sending hundreds of billions to Ukraine to fund a proxy war that could lead to nuclear war with Russia?
Think Dems in cities run by liberals like the tens of thousands of homeless who are allowed to camp on their streets or sidewalk in front of their home?
Think Republicans would object if Biden somehow brought inflation back down to under 2% where Trump had it?
Is it your impression that Democrat voters don't mind the fact that Biden has done nothing about the fentanyl crisis killing hundreds of people every month?
Or that they wouldn't support a crackdown by a Republican that put a stop to it?
Think they would object if Biden suddenly started to complete Trump's border wall and restarted construction on the Keystone pipeline?
Would Republicans object to seeing grocery stores once again with fully stocked shelves just because it came about under Biden?

Those are NOT trivial issues and each party has marked differences on the way each should be handled.  And you'll see that as millions of Democrats either turn out to vote Republican next month, or stay home and skip voting entirely because they're so disgusted with what Biden has done.  

Think Republican voters feel the same way?

I don't know if Democrats like the **** Biden policies, but they seem to.  All the lefties here love open borders, tranny culture and globalism

SJConspirator » 12 Oct 2022, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Oct 2022, 7:27 pm

I don't know if Democrats like the **** Biden policies, but they seem to.  All the lefties here love open borders, tranny culture and globalism

they don't try to prevent them or roll policies of laws and regulations ordering compliance to consensus back out of legislation anymore than conservatives or republicans have. Ancestral realities compound the errors made by creating more possibilities to believe in that define life larger than simply evolving in series parallel displacement spontaneously alive since conceived to simultaneously occupying space until decomposed corpse.

Kinetic specific gravity sustaining specific kinetic evolving of each ancestor populating the atmosphere here and always has since inception of DNA streaming ancestries present and occupying the moment separately.

SJConspirator » 12 Oct 2022, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Oct 2022, 7:27 pm

I don't know if Democrats like the **** Biden policies, but they seem to.  All the lefties here love open borders, tranny culture and globalism

I seriously doubt that! 
Can you support that claim?
 

Zeets2 » 13 Oct 2022, 7:48 am » wrote: ↑

13 Oct 2022, 7:48 am

I seriously doubt that! 
Can you support that claim?

...oh goody!... a couple of republicrat-level monetary ignoramuses arguing about puppet$/puppetry!!!