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Dnc politicians and voters like to sell us this line that they fight for the little guy and want to prevent exploitation. I guess that dnc voters like to just hear that rhetoric because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. 

But because of the contradictions within dnc programming, it is impossible that this could ever occur. 

The only revolution in the past few centuries that was good for the 'common man' was fascism. Communism totally failed at its promises because it simply destroyed national industry and replaced it with international elements, and relied far too much on the goodwill of party leaders. 

The 'new deal' of fdr was a very fascist collection of policies...and relieved praise from the nazis for its syndicalism and make work programs. Buy it did not do nearly enough (as huey long kept saying) and it seemed to only exist in order to stave off a communist revolution. 

A big reason for this is because it failed to address the problem of rent seeking. The REAL cause of wealth inequality in the usa is based on the fact that people can like make a million dollars a day by simply possessing abstract numbers in Wallstreet. It actually has nothing to do with their 'paycheck' and dnc voters seem incapable of figuring out. The reason that many billionaires pay no income tax is because their PAYCHECK is actually quite small...and retards like AOC fans cant seem to understand that money can be may in ways other than via paycheck. 

The nazis remedied this with very strict controls over banks and land speculation...and having no stock market at all. They minimized international elements in their economy. And their economy actually had a boom because they were free from the exploitation of international finance. 

Also quite telling is stuff like...Amazon explicitly stating that workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and that is a good thing. Fascists will look at this and say workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and thats a bad thing. And then the dnc supporters will reel in horror at the fascists and cry out "that's racism!". 

What is the average DNC voter today? They love Amazon. They love Google. They love Goldman Sachs. They love the fbi. They hate the 'rednecks' working blue collar jobs because they are uneducated and racist.

The Republicans like to pretend the dnc is communist but no the dnc are just shills for the monied elite. 

there is only one GENUINE movement for the common man, and that is fascism 
 
 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:10 am

Dnc politicians and voters like to sell us this line that they fight for the little guy and want to prevent exploitation. I guess that dnc voters like to just hear that rhetoric because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. 

But because of the contradictions within dnc programming, it is impossible that this could ever occur. 

The only revolution in the past few centuries that was good for the 'common man' was fascism. Communism totally failed at its promises because it simply destroyed national industry and replaced it with international elements, and relied far too much on the goodwill of party leaders. 

The 'new deal' of fdr was a very fascist collection of policies...and relieved praise from the nazis for its syndicalism and make work programs. Buy it did not do nearly enough (as huey long kept saying) and it seemed to only exist in order to stave off a communist revolution. 

A big reason for this is because it failed to address the problem of rent seeking. The REAL cause of wealth inequality in the usa is based on the fact that people can like make a million dollars a day by simply possessing abstract numbers in Wallstreet. It actually has nothing to do with their 'paycheck' and dnc voters seem incapable of figuring out. The reason that many billionaires pay no income tax is because their PAYCHECK is actually quite small...and retards like AOC fans cant seem to understand that money can be may in ways other than via paycheck. 

The nazis remedied this with very strict controls over banksand land speculation...and having no stock market at all. They minimized international elements in their economy. And their economy actually had a boom because they were free from the exploitation of international finance. 

Also quite telling is stuff like...Amazon explicitly stating that workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and that is a good thing. Fascists will look at this and aay workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and thats a bad thing. And then the dnc supporters will reel in horror at the fascists and cry out "that's racism!". 

What is the average DNC voter today? They love Amazon. They love Google. They love Goldman Sachs. They love the fbi. They hate the 'rednecks' working blue collar jobs because they are uneducated and racist.

The Republicans like to pretend the dnc is communist but no the dnc are just shills for the moniesd elite. 

there is only one GENUINE movement for the common man, and that is fascism

That’s why we need more than two parties to choose from. The two we have now don’t care about the little guy. 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:10 am

Dnc politicians and voters like to sell us this line that they fight for the little guy and want to prevent exploitation. I guess that dnc voters like to just hear that rhetoric because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. 

But because of the contradictions within dnc programming, it is impossible that this could ever occur. 

The only revolution in the past few centuries that was good for the 'common man' was fascism. Communism totally failed at its promises because it simply destroyed national industry and replaced it with international elements, and relied far too much on the goodwill of party leaders. 

The 'new deal' of fdr was a very fascist collection of policies...and relieved praise from the nazis for its syndicalism and make work programs. Buy it did not do nearly enough (as huey long kept saying) and it seemed to only exist in order to stave off a communist revolution. 

A big reason for this is because it failed to address the problem of rent seeking. The REAL cause of wealth inequality in the usa is based on the fact that people can like make a million dollars a day by simply possessing abstract numbers in Wallstreet. It actually has nothing to do with their 'paycheck' and dnc voters seem incapable of figuring out. The reason that many billionaires pay no income tax is because their PAYCHECK is actually quite small...and retards like AOC fans cant seem to understand that money can be may in ways other than via paycheck. 

The nazis remedied this with very strict controls over banksand land speculation...and having no stock market at all. They minimized international elements in their economy. And their economy actually had a boom because they were free from the exploitation of international finance. 

Also quite telling is stuff like...Amazon explicitly stating that workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and that is a good thing. Fascists will look at this and aay workforce diversity prevents worker collectivizing, and thats a bad thing. And then the dnc supporters will reel in horror at the fascists and cry out "that's racism!". 

What is the average DNC voter today? They love Amazon. They love Google. They love Goldman Sachs. They love the fbi. They hate the 'rednecks' working blue collar jobs because they are uneducated and racist.

The Republicans like to pretend the dnc is communist but no the dnc are just shills for the moniesd elite. 

there is only one GENUINE movement for the common man, and that is fascism

You speak of wealth as if it is a dirty thing.  I see wealth as a sign of at least some modicum of success. I embrace success and correspondingly wealth.  Aren't you wealthy and rather "elite"?  Related to a former Georgia governor and other social elites?  It makes no sense to me why you would reject or be spiteful toward, who and what you are.
 
 

Pastafarian » 01 Nov 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:14 am

That’s why we need more than two parties to choose from. The two we have now don’t care about the little guy.

All voting is controlled by monied elite. The only avenue available is revolution. 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:19 am

All voting is controlled by monied elite. The only avenue available is revolution.

Then stop sitting on your hands, procrastinator. 

Start your revolution, keyboard warrior. 
 

Skans » 01 Nov 2022, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:18 am

You speak of wealth as if it is a dirty thing.  I see wealth as a sign of at least some modicum of success. I embrace success and correspondingly wealth.  Aren't you wealthy and rather "elite"?  Related to a former Georgia governor and other social elites?  It makes no sense to me why you would reject or be spiteful toward, who and what you are.

What do you mean 'success'? Nobody in our system becomes a billionaire via their own labor.. that simply isn't possible. Paychecks don't go that high. 

Pastafarian » 01 Nov 2022, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:20 am

Then stop sitting on your hands, procrastinator. 

Start your revolution, keyboard warrior.

The revolution is underway...

I don't understand why you diminish the value of talking. Every successful revolution involved a lot of talking and conversion...

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:23 am

What do you mean 'success'? Nobody in our system becomes a billionaire via their own labor.. that simply isn't possible. Paychecks don't go that high.

Let me further define this for you.  I am not speaking of general success, but financial success.  Pounding a hammer every day for a boss and eating everything you make is not success.  That is getting by.  Success takes intelligence and creativity.  It also takes the ability to recognize opportunities, the ability to plan for opportunities and the ability to take calculated risks and seize upon those opportunities to create additional wealth.

If a man wants to make something more of his life, other than pounding a hammer every day for some boss man, he will have to be a smart, knowledgeable, calculated risk taker.   Even the person who inherits wealth will either 1) have a hired professional who is a smart, knowledgeable, calculated risk taker, or he will rise to the occasion and become this himself.  Otherwise, that inherited wealth, often family wealth, will be squandered in only a few generations, if not less.

So, what does this mean?  It means that there will always be 2 classes of people who will never be successful in their own right:  1) Those with average to low intelligence and 2) those who may possess high intelligence but are too timid to ever put the wheels in motion to build wealth.  Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Democracy, Federalism, or any other "ism" is NEVER going to eliminate that gap.  Average or below average, timid people are doomed to be the food upon which the more astute among us feast.
 
 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:30 am

The revolution is underway...

I don't understand why you diminish the value of talking. Every successful revolution involved a lot of talking and conversion...

On an anonymous board? **** off. Nazi ***. 

Real talking is taking it to the streets and getting in people’s faces. 

What are you waiting for?
 

Pastafarian » 01 Nov 2022, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:34 am

On an anonymous board? **** off. Nazi ***. 

Real talking is taking it to the streets and getting in people’s faces. 

What are you waiting for?

Lol...no retard. A real revolution is not getting in people's faces. I'm guessing you have been misinformed by the fake history of the Civil rights movement. 

Skans » 01 Nov 2022, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:33 am

Let me further define this for you.  I am not speaking of general success, but financial success.  Pounding a hammer every day for a boss and eating everything you make is not success.  That is getting by.  Success takes intelligence and creativity.  It also takes the ability to recognize opportunities, the ability to plan for opportunities and the ability to take calculated risks and seize upon those opportunities to create additional wealth.

If a man wants to make something more of his life, other than pounding a hammer every day for some boss man, he will have to be a smart, knowledgeable, calculated risk taker.   Even the person who inherits wealth will either 1) have a hired professional who is a smart, knowledgeable, calculated risk taker, or he will rise to the occasion and become this himself.  Otherwise, that inherited wealth, often family wealth, will be squandered in only a few generations, if not less.

in our current system real success is driven much more by nepotism and corruption than by any intelligence or creativity. 

And the guy with the hammer? He isn't even getting by. The world has changed since you were young.
you don't have to 'hate the rich" in order to recognize thst there are profound systemic failures in our society. Economically, culturally, the selection for power, etc. 

The simple fact is thst collapse is inevitable anyway. Me coming from a wealthy family has nothing to do with anything.

Pastafarian » 01 Nov 2022, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:14 am

That’s why we need more than two parties to choose from. The two we have now don’t care about the little guy.

Caring about the little guy.  A society, any society, only cares enough about the "little guy" to subdue violence and discord. This is a human condition, and a different government will never change this.  You can see similar patterns in herds of elephants, packs of wolves, dolphins, etc. Society does not tolerate those who cannot or willingly do not contribute at least that which they take.  Not for very long, anyway.

No matter how hard you or FOS or others try, there will always be those who are far more capable among us, and many who are just average (100 IQ) and below average.  Most average people are destined to work 9-5 jobs and accumulate very little wealth.  Those who have below average IQ's will generally be destitute unless their high-IQ families opt to devise a plan to take care of them.

Average and below average IQ people do not lead revolutions.  High IQ elites do.  And, they do it to benefit themselves, not to become a slave to the dumbest people they can convince to follow them.
 

Pastafarian » 01 Nov 2022, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:34 am

On an anonymous board? **** off. Nazi ***. 

Real talking is taking it to the streets and getting in people’s faces. 

What are you waiting for?

Let me inform you of something...which you could confirm yourself if you had the attention span...but you won't. 

Do you know what the civil rights movement really was? Black people marching aroudn and rioting didnt do **** for thr civil rights movement. Indeed it anything that behavior held it back. 

The real muscle behind civil rights was communist jews. 

They were also the only people who benefitted from it..

Jews used the civil rights movement...weaponizing blacks...I order to replace the former wasp elite with themselves.. 

Blacks didn't get anything from it.. blacks are worse off today than they were in the 1950s lol...you were just useful idiots for the jews. 

And how did jews accomplish that? Mainly via anonymous talking. 
 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:43 am

in our current system real success is driven much more by nepotism and corruption than by any intelligence or creativity. 

And the guy with the hammer? He isn't even getting by. The world has changed since you were young.
you don't have to 'hate the rich" in order to recognize thst there are profound systemic failures in our society. Economically, culturally, the selection for power, etc. 

The simple fact is thst collapse is inevitable anyway. Me coming from a wealthy family has nothing to do with anything.

Any guy who pounds a hammer for a living will never do better than "get by".  In a free market economy, such a person is at "that level" because that's all he is capable of.  There are way more people like that than there are who can think intelligently, think creatively, are willing to plan and delay rewards for future gains, can strategize, can recognize opportunities and are willing to take calculated risks.
 
 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 9:52 am

Let me inform you of something...which you could confirm yourself if you had the attention span...but you won't. 

Do you know what the civil rights movement really was? Black people marching aroudn and rioting didnt do **** for thr civil rights movement. Indeed it anything that behavior held it back. 

The real muscle behind civil rights was communist jews. 

They were also the only people who benefitted from it..

Jews used the civil rights movement...weaponizing blacks...I order to replace the former wasp elite with themselves.. 

Blacks didn't get anything from it.. blacks are worse off today than they were in the 1950s lol...you were just useful idiots for the jews. 

And how did jews accomplish that? Mainly via anonymous talking.

Bernardine Dohrn, f/k/a Bernardine Ohrnstein attended Miami University Ohio, for one year before transferring to the notoriously leftist University of Chicago, where she was radicalized but still managed to graduate with honors with a B.A in political science in 1963. Later, Bernadine received her law degree from the University of Chicago Law school in 1967.

While attending law school, she worked in support of civil rights movement leader, Martin Luther King, Jr. and became the first law student organizer for the National Lawyer's Guild.  The National Lawyers Guild is a communist-progressive association of lawyers, law students, paralegals, jailhouse lawyers, law collective members, and other activist legal workers, in the United States.  From there, the rest is history, except the part where she and her husband Bill Ayres, hid from the FBI for about a decade.  And, who helped them hide out?  The elites in the National Lawyer's Guild. 
 
 

Skans » 01 Nov 2022, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 12:35 pm

Bernardine Dohrn, f/k/a Bernardine Ohrnstein attended Miami University Ohio, for one year before transferring to the notoriously leftist University of Chicago, where she was radicalized but still managed to graduate with honors with a B.A in political science in 1963. Later, Bernadine received her law degree from the University of Chicago Law school in 1967.

While attending law school, she worked in support of civil rights movement leader, Martin Luther King, Jr. and became the first law student organizer for the National Lawyer's Guild.  The National Lawyers Guild is a communist-progressive association of lawyers, law students, paralegals, jailhouse lawyers, law collective members, and other activist legal workers, in the United States.  From there, the rest is history, except the part where she and her husband Bill Ayres, hid from the FBI for about a decade.  And, who helped them hide out?  The elites in the National Lawyer's Guild.

There's a reason mlk became the icon of civil rights instead of Malcolm x

Skans » 01 Nov 2022, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 12:21 pm

Any guy who pounds a hammer for a living will never do better than "get by".  In a free market economy, such a person is at "that level" because that's all he is capable of.  There are way more people like that than there are who can think intelligently, think creatively, are willing to plan and delay rewards for future gains, can strategize, can recognize opportunities and are willing to take calculated risks.

medieval Europe was able to provide hammer pounders with health care, their own house, and enough resources to raise a family. 

We can't. 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 12:58 pm

medieval Europe was able to provide hammer pounders with health care, their own house, and enough resources to raise a family. 

We can't.

In Medieval Europe, the hammer was basically the height of technology.  Someone skilled at making things with one might be comparable to a chip designer today. 
 

FOS » 01 Nov 2022, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 12:57 pm

There's a reason mlk became the icon of civil rights instead of Malcolm x

If you want to know where the budding roots of radical race ideology and Communism come from - Those two paragraphs I gave you contain everything you need to know to root out most of the key players from its inception.  If you know what rocks to look under.
 

Skans » 01 Nov 2022, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Nov 2022, 1:04 pm

If you want to know where the budding roots of radical race ideology and Communism come from - Those two paragraphs I gave you contain everything you need to know to root out most of the key players from its inception.  If you know what rocks to look under.

it was not merely communism. Rousseau is responsible for much of this.