He said it. They're pretty relaxed, the malthusians.Vegas » 21 Nov 2022, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑ Starting at the 40 second mark. I had to listen 4 different times. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt in that maybe he meant to say that one of the other variables could be decreased, not the people. Such as the 15% decrease in energy, instead of a 15% decrease in people. However, it doesn't appear so. He seems to have meant a decrease in people with the vaccines. Freudian slip? I mean, there is no way he is dumb enough to say that in public.
That dude is evil.Cannonpointer » 21 Nov 2022, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑ He said it. They're pretty relaxed, the malthusians.
Vegas says Gates is evil. Me, I don't know. Maybe not.SJConspirator » 22 Nov 2022, 12:12 am » wrote: ↑ There was no oops, I misspoke. No mea culpa. He just casually talked about reducing the population of earth. That means killing millions of people. Wow
Let's assume Gates isn't human for the sake of argument. Perhaps, he is some higher form alien that us humans have no awareness of. It's still relatively evil. If a species has a cognitive and logical reasoning capabilities between right and wrong, then we can tag on the labels of good and evil. For example, we wouldn't call a lioness evil for attacking and eating baby bores. To the wildlife kingdom, this is survival. On the other hand, we would call the cartels (or any group) evil for engaging in child sex trafficking rings or killing kids for their organs on the black market. What's the difference? I mean, both examples are meant as a means of survival of the dominant species. So why is one evil and the other not? Because one has the clear cognitive awareness of the concept between good and evil, the other does not. So, if we assume Gates (and others) as a more dominate species over humans, then by default, he also has a clear understanding of the concepts of good and evil, since we humans do. Thus, he is evil.Cannonpointer » 22 Nov 2022, 12:19 am » wrote: ↑ Vegas says Gates is evil. Me, I don't know. Maybe not.
There's an old joke featuring a not-very-good piccolo player. It ends with the question, "Who called that mother **** a piccolo player?" I ask myself that question, from time to time, in situations like this.
Yes he is evil - IF he is human. But who says he is human? I mean, we assume it. Of course we assume it. But is our assumption safe? What if he is something other than human? Is he still evil?
To us, yes. To his own kind? Who can say? What is his kind? What are their values? Maybe he's a plucky little fella and fine, being the best little bill gates he knows how to be - workin' it.
But remember, he gave BILLIONS to the *** in Africa!SJConspirator » 22 Nov 2022, 12:12 am » wrote: ↑ There was no oops, I misspoke. No mea culpa. He just casually talked about reducing the population of earth. That means killing millions of people. Wow

Both are human.Vegas » 22 Nov 2022, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Let's assume Gates isn't human for the sake of argument. Perhaps, he is some higher form alien that us humans have no awareness of. It's still relatively evil. If a species has a cognitive and logical reasoning capabilities between right and wrong, then we can tag on the labels of good and evil. For example, we wouldn't call a lioness evil for attacking and eating baby bores. To the wildlife kingdom, this is survival. On the other hand, we would call the cartels (or any group) evil for engaging in child sex trafficking rings or killing kids for their organs on the black market. What's the difference?
Same species.Vegas » 22 Nov 2022, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑I mean, both examples are meant as a means of survival of the dominant species. So why is one evil and the other not?
Maybe they see us as an invasive speciesVegas » 22 Nov 2022, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑Because one has the clear cognitive awareness of the concept between good and evil, the other does not. So, if we assume Gates (and others) as a more dominate species over humans, then by default, he also has a clear understanding of the concepts of good and evil, since we humans do. Thus, he is evil.
Cannonpointer » 22 Nov 2022, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Both are human.
Same species.
Maybe they see us as an invasive species
You've bought into "humanity as cancer."GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Nov 2022, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑ If I was a Billionaire I would push for population control measures via social engineering...just not murder
We've already discussed this.
GOD's World is most abundant where there is less competition for limited resources.Cannonpointer » 22 Nov 2022, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑ You've bought into "humanity as cancer."
I've bought into "Humanity as God's plan."
God's world is abundant. You need to back away from Satan's world of want.
Funny how the richest countries are where that competition is fiercest, and in the poorest it is least fierce.GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Nov 2022, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ GOD's World is most abundant where there is less competition for limited resources.
Completely false. They CHOOSE that, because they want to be in the thick of it.GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Nov 2022, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ God stopped making land [especially the most desirable land] long ago.
People are forced to build nowadays on tiny lots that were considered unbuildable.
Well, I disagree - But that's irrelevant. Your wish is being fulfilled in real time.GHETTOBLASTER » 22 Nov 2022, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Cut our population in half and we'll see a return to a time when a single wage earner could raise a couple kids, have Mom be a full time mom and own a nice big piece of desireable land in parts of the USA that are already fully developed.
The least desirable places to live will end up getting torn down due to lack of demand.
The only difference you would notice in the smaller USA is less competition for everything and more space everywhere to roam.
The richest areas are where the people at the top of the economic food chain want to live.Cannonpointer » 22 Nov 2022, 7:43 pm » wrote: ↑ Funny how the richest countries are where that competition is fiercest, and in the poorest it is least fierce.
SOMEHOW - in spite of that fierce competition, we still lead first world lives.
Completely false. They CHOOSE that, because they want to be in the thick of it.
I live on 29 acres. I'm not rich.
Well, I disagree - But that's irrelevant. Your wish is being fulfilled in real time.
Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.Cannonpointer » 22 Nov 2022, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑ You've bought into "humanity as cancer."
I've bought into "Humanity as God's plan."
God's world is abundant. You need to back away from Satan's world of want.
roadkill » 22 Nov 2022, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑ Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
about 20 billion. That would give everybody 5 acres of land per individualGHETTOBLASTER » 22 Nov 2022, 8:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Does God say what HIS UPPER LIMIT is...or is there none...just infinity?