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Mr. 7 » 24 Dec 2022, 1:31 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 1:31 pm

**** your 16 great great grandparents, your 8 great grandparents, your 4 grandparents, your parents, cousins, and siblings. **** your DNA. **** your sperm and egg fertilization, and your kinetics of evolving. Yeah, I said it. That's how I roll, MoFo.   

Oh, do have a Merry Christmas  

I don't move. you compromised your life away to save your career pretending to be more than you actually are in plain sight. You gave away your power of choice. You corrupt your own family using power of suggesting actual life is too complicated for even you to be honest about yourself in your own family tree.

I did not. My son and daughter compromise with deniers since humanity is the only game allowed in this atmosphere and it isn't like anyone can move beyond mutually evolving forward now. They fit into society unnoticed and blend in with the upper 20% of the population same as I have.

It is harder to rescue your own species from self destruction than organizing doubt cradle to grave established for over 300 generation gaps changing entire population never same ancestors again, just male and female reproductions in the image of their dominant gene pool of previous 4 generations.

I discuss physical absolute results evolving, you defend promises of better tomorrows and living never exceeds the moment here physically.

Nostradamus'omh » 24 Dec 2022, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 1:34 pm

I don't move. you compromised your life away to save your career pretending to be more than you actually are in plain sight. You gave away your power of choice. You corrupt your own family using power of suggesting actual life is too complicated for even you to be honest about yourself in your own family tree.

I did not.

And a Happy New Year too.
 

Mr. 7 » 24 Dec 2022, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 1:37 pm

And a Happy New Year too.
 

You worship a false sense of time. Happy New Year to you also.

FOS » 24 Dec 2022, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 11:01 am

well I'm curious about the 15% you disagree with

...friedman quickly exposes you low iq nazi monetary ignoramuses:....

"There are four ways in which you can spend money.

1.) You can spend your own money on yourself. You have a strong incentive to get the most for your money.

2.) You can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, you buy a birthday present for someone. Here, you're not so careful about the content of the present, but you are very careful about the cost.

3.) You can spend somebody else’s money on yourself. And when you spend somebody else’s money on yourself you are surely! going to have a nice meal, hotel room, etc.. [c'mon, admit it!]    

4.) You can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And when you spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, you're not as concerned about how much it costs or what you are getting...[hint for republicrats, fascists, etc., authoritarian theorists: these are the incentives the government apparatchik faces...every f@cking time...and i hear that's over half of all transactions in your goddamned fool 'free   market'...] 

...i favor a society dominated by number 1... you authoritardian c@cksuckers [and monetary ignoramuses] favor a society dominated by number 4.... 

[these #4 retards put the extra 'oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' in stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid... word...    
 

peepee » 24 Dec 2022, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 2:00 pm

...friedman quickly exposes you low iq nazi monetary ignoramuses:....

"There are four ways in which you can spend money.

1.) You can spend your own money on yourself. You have a strong incentive to get the most for your money.

2.) You can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, you buy a birthday present for someone. Here, you're not so careful about the content of the present, but you are very careful about the cost.

3.) You can spend somebody else’s money on yourself. And when you spend somebody else’s money on yourself you are surely! going to have a nice meal, hotel room, etc.. [c'mon, admit it!]    

4.) You can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And when you spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, you're not as concerned about how much it costs or what you are getting...[hint for republicrats, fascists, etc., authoritarian theorists: these are the incentives the government apparatchik faces...every f@cking time...and i hear that's over half of all transactions in your goddamned fool 'free   market'...] 

...i favor a society dominated by number 1... you authoritardian c@cksuckers [and monetary ignoramuses] favor a society dominated by number 4.... 

[these #4 retards put the extra 'oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' in stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid... word...  

This is lame and stupid. I am not merely a person...I am a member of a people. Friedman seems to be attempting to refute the entire concept of a nation.

Well buddy...no nation...no power...and thus no money

FOS » 24 Dec 2022, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 11:01 am

well I'm curious about the 15% you disagree with

Insofar as we're discussing fascist (or its younger cousin Nazi) philosophy, I don't have an issue. A few nitpicks but nothing significant.

The primary issue is in practice, you still get a wide variety of "quality" of leadership.

Hitler's example set a high bar (well...minus the invasion of the SU that led to his state's demise, although I suppose you could argue if he didn't invade the outcome would have been the same/even worse as Stalin had devious plans) in terms of dealing with (((international finance))) and what social/economic policies work.

Hitler was kind of like...maybe a 1 in 200 yr occurrence lol.

Other European fascist leaders have mostly been mediocre/disappointing - Mussolini for example had some decent economic policies but didn't deal with the elephant in the room. IIRC he did deport/jail some Jews but only to show solidarity with Germany, not because he cared about the problem.

If I were to, for example, argue on the side of liberal democracy, I would choose a country like Switzerland or Denmark to make my case. I wouldn't pick a basket case like the USA or Brazil. Same w/ fascism.

LowIQTrash » 24 Dec 2022, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 3:03 pm

Insofar as we're discussing fascist (or its younger cousin Nazi) philosophy, I don't have an issue. A few nitpicks but nothing significant.

The primary issue is in practice, you still get a wide variety of "quality" of leadership.

Hitler's example set a high bar (well...minus the invasion of the SU that led to his state's demise, although I suppose you could argue if he didn't invade the outcome would have been the same/even worse as Stalin had devious plans) in terms of dealing with (((international finance))) and what social/economic policies work.

Hitler was kind of like...maybe a 1 in 200 yr occurrence lol.

Other European fascist leaders have mostly been mediocre/disappointing - Mussolini for example had some decent economic policies but didn't deal with the elephant in the room. IIRC he did deport/jail some Jews but only to show solidarity with Germany, not because he cared about the problem.

If I were to, for example, argue on the side of liberal democracy, I would choose a country like Switzerland or Denmark to make my case. I wouldn't pick a basket case like the USA or Brazil. Same w/ fascism.

well I think there were a lot of very impressive characters in the fascist revolution...though they didn't all succeed and many were assassinated. For example codreanu, antonio primo de Rivera, and Oswald mosely. Other examples also...

fascism seemed to attract great men.

it's speculation to wonder what would happen after the revolutionary freshness wore off.. I could imagine the quality of leadership falling into decline...but that seems true with everything 

FOS » 24 Dec 2022, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 2:32 pm

This is lame and stupid. I am not merely a person...I am a member of a people. Friedman seems to be attempting to refute the entire concept of a nation.

Well buddy...no nation...no power...and thus no money

 

...friedman's concept is of a nation of individuals constrained by a government/laws resulting in accordance with 'the consent of the governed'...your authoriTARDian concept is of a nation of individuals ruled arbitrarily by some authoriTARDian ruler/rulers...

....btw, what you call 'lame and stupid' exposes you as a blathering auhoriTARDian [and monetary ignoramus] without any honest understanding of basic human nature....wordle...

...and despite all the examples of [more] 'authoriTARDian economics' vs. [more] 'libertarian' economics [i.e. east vs. west germany, etc.] you nazi ninnies still cling to authoriTARDianism...       
 
 

LowIQTrash » 24 Dec 2022, 4:17 am » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 4:17 am

The reason fascist economics works, contrary to liberTARDian and neoliberal propaganda, is that fascists understand the "free market" is mostly fiction.

When Adam Smith used the term, he was referring to markets free from monopolies, oligopolies, and rent seeking. It's like showing up to a flea market with 100s of vendors. Neither buyers nor sellers have any distinct advantage so the "profit" is close to zero. 

 

....the idea that we have a 'free market' today IS fiction... every libertarian i know understands that, strawman builder [and monetary ignoramus] ...ime, libertarians, unlike you authoriTARDians, are quick to point out that a huge percentage of 'economic transactions' in 'murca are undertaken by 'government/ gov. officials'...#4 in friedman's construct... [hint: that's the opposite of a 'free market', authoriTARDian straw-man builder]... [and monetary ignoramus]   

[what these nazi dolts won't tell you/can't fathom is that their stinking philosophy results in 'economic dictatorship' with #4 spending comprising close to 100% of 'economic transactions'...they whine about 'monopoly' as they cheerlead for some fantasy fascist monopoly...]            

  

peepee » 25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am

 

...friedman's concept is of a nation of individuals constrained by a government/laws resulting in accordance with 'the consent of the governed'...your authoriTARDian concept is of a nation of individuals ruled arbitrarily by some authoriTARDian ruler/rulers...

....btw, what you call 'lame and stupid' exposes you as a blathering auhoriTARDian [and monetary ignoramus] without any honest understanding of basic human nature....wordle...

...and despite all the examples of [more] 'authoriTARDian economics' vs. [more] 'libertarian' economics [i.e. east vs. west germany, etc.] you nazi ninnies still cling to authoriTARDianism...       
 
 

Policies govern intellectual minds as individual brains takes sides enforcing the meaning of maybe factually reciting fruition of human behavior ignoring now is eternity as history of what needs covered up again in each society.

economic theory is the direction, rule of law creates type cast people leading and following directors of maybe, could have been, would become, if everyone just pretends now isn't eternity.

Power of suggestion is transformed into persuasion of power by passive aggression through chain of command protecting established ideologies never accepting self evident displacement while genetically limited to adapting in the moment. Adopt a philosophy or else is laid upon each great great grandchild born to replace their previous 4 generation lineage, not siblings, cousins in same generation gap added since inception.

peepee » 25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am

 

...friedman's concept is of a nation of individuals constrained by a government/laws resulting in accordance with 'the consent of the governed'...your authoriTARDian concept is of a nation of individuals ruled arbitrarily by some authoriTARDian ruler/rulers...

....btw, what you call 'lame and stupid' exposes you as a blathering auhoriTARDian [and monetary ignoramus] without any honest understanding of basic human nature....wordle...

...and despite all the examples of [more] 'authoriTARDian economics' vs. [more] 'libertarian' economics [i.e. east vs. west germany, etc.] you nazi ninnies still cling to authoriTARDianism...   

Lol the very idea that there COULD be such a thing as a 'nation of individuals'! Lol.

this is politics foe retards! 
 

peepee » 25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

25 Dec 2022, 8:29 am

 

...friedman's concept is of a nation of individuals constrained by a government/laws resulting in accordance with 'the consent of the governed'...your authoriTARDian concept is of a nation of individuals ruled arbitrarily by some authoriTARDian ruler/rulers...

....btw, what you call 'lame and stupid' exposes you as a blathering auhoriTARDian [and monetary ignoramus] without any honest understanding of basic human nature....wordle...

...and despite all the examples of [more] 'authoriTARDian economics' vs. [more] 'libertarian' economics [i.e. east vs. west germany, etc.] you nazi ninnies still cling to authoriTARDianism...   

stop diddling toddlers, you perv.  Sick pedo

DeplorablePatriot » 09 Dec 2022, 6:32 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2022, 6:32 pm

I'm not savvy enough to even begin to debate this topic, although FOS brings out some very interesting and highly articulate points. I must scurry to the interwebs to find the truth or propaganda and trying to discern from either is a feat in itself.

One point made about Mr. 'dolf and blacks. I'd like to know if this cut and paste here is true. Hitler blamed the infiltration of blacks into Germany on several things, and that I have no concern over. I would like to point out that I fully agree with the way this information I found emphasizes his general attitude toward them and his contempt for their being in his country. He was far ahead of his time in this regard. Look what has happened to our country with the black race...much bad and little good. I love Hitler's definition: "negrified." If that was indeed a description he used. If it did come from Mein Kampf, he certainly must have.

"In Mein Kampf, Hitler described children resulting from marriages to African occupation soldiers as a contamination of the white race "by Negro blood on the Rhine in the heart of Europe."[7] He thought that "Jews were responsible for bringing ****** into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardising the White race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate."[8] He also implied that this was a plot on the part of the French since the population of France was being increasingly "negrified".[9]"

Good post! We have been ***!
And all the boats to Liberia have sunk. YIKES!

 
 

nuckinfutz » 26 Dec 2022, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2022, 11:35 am

Good post! We have been ***!
And all the boats to Liberia have sunk. YIKES!

If I used an entire tandem semi-load of NIGAWAY! in Baltimore...
It might render the town 10% denigrified. 
 

FOS » 24 Dec 2022, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Dec 2022, 2:32 pm

Friedman seems to be attempting to refute the entire concept of a nation.

Well buddy...no nation...no power...and thus no money

 
...seems to me friedman's 'nation' is built around maximum individual freedom, minimum coercion/'government'...whereas you authoritardians have never given it, or anything el$e of true import, much thought... you adolts apparently can't get it through your thick skulls that decent, intelligent people don't want to be controlled by truly lame authoriTARDians [etc. monetary ignoramuses] such as you blind @ssholes envision ...we already have too much of your authoriTARDianism already!... wordle!...    

...[btw, these gd fools can't get it through their skulls that, in the most important aspects, 'murca's economy' is so similar to that of their stinking nazi idols that only a monetary ignoramus could/would quibble...and imo THAT ignorance is why these mi's quibble about the puppets/puppetry, ism   jism, etc. bs ...btw, the 3-6 nazi stooges here are largely indistinguishable from republican-radio-level blatherers, [etc. monetary ignoramuses] in many ways...but, of course, they are ((((((THE)))))) true and good 'conservatives'...]   

SJConspirator » 25 Dec 2022, 9:42 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Dec 2022, 9:42 pm

I'm a butt-hurt stooooooopid f@ck [and monetary ignoramus] who has nothing better than 'stop diddling toddlers, you perv.  Sick pedo' ...

...winning... won...      
 

peepee » 26 Dec 2022, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2022, 5:57 pm

 
...seems to me friedman's 'nation' is built around maximum individual freedom, minimum coercion/'government'...whereas you authoritardians have never given it, or anything el$e of true import, much thought... you adolts apparently can't get it through your thick skulls that decent, intelligent people don't want to be controlled by truly lame authoriTARDians [etc. monetary ignoramuses] such as you blind @ssholes envision ...we already have too much of your authoriTARDianism already!... wordle!...    

...[btw, these gd fools can't get it through their skulls that, in the most important aspects, 'murca's economy' is so similar to that of their stinking nazi idols that only a monetary ignoramus could/would quibble...and imo THAT ignorance is why these mi's quibble about the puppets/puppetry, ism   jism, etc. bs ...btw, the 3-6 nazi stooges here are largely indistinguishable from republican-radio-level blatherers, [etc. monetary ignoramuses] in many ways...but, of course, they are ((((((THE)))))) true and good 'conservatives'...] 

lol...

'Freedom' and 'lack of coercion' is a thing that happens when there is no politics. It is a contradiction in terms to speak of the politics of freedom. 

Politics happens when you recognize that there are rival groups who will seek to dominate and destroy eachither...yes even if they are citizens of the aame country...

And every single 'individual' is in fact on a side. Like it or not. And if they have some stupid 'principles' that prevent them from taking their own side, then they might as well just kill themselves.
 
Your fear of being on a side is literally just the result of brainwashing imposed on people who are very aware that they are not on your side lol. It is very easy for them to dominate you when you have zero political will...

FOS » 26 Dec 2022, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2022, 6:09 pm

lol...

'Freedom' and 'lack of coercion' is a thing that happens when there is no politics. It is a contradiction in terms to speak of the politics of freedom. 

Politics happens when you recognize that there are rival groups who will seek to dominate and destroy eachither...yes even if they are citizens of the aame country...

And every single 'individual' is in fact on a side. Like it or not. And if they have some stupid 'principles' that prevent them from taking their own side, then they might as well just kill themselves.
 
Your fear of being on a side is literally just the result of brainwashing imposed on people who are very aware that they are not on your side lol. It is very easy for them to dominate you when you have zero political will...

[what blather!!!]

...honest 'politics' amounts to nothing more or less than 'an honest competition of ideas about government'...

...i'm on 'the side' of other minarchists, monetary realists, anti-war/interventionism people, advocates for complete government transparency, VIGOROUSLY pro-gun rights people, anti-drug war/prohibition people, free market schooling people, etc. ad nauseam... 

...you blather a lot of strawman bs like your fellow nazi toadies, dude... post my words, not your blathering  interpretations...    
 
 
 

peepee » 26 Dec 2022, 6:25 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2022, 6:25 pm

[what blather!!!]

...honest 'politics' amounts to nothing more or less than 'an honest competition of ideas about government'...

...i'm on 'the side' of other minarchists, monetary realists, anti-war/interventionism people, advocates for complete government transparency, VIGOROUSLY pro-gun rights people, anti-drug war/prohibition people, etc. ad nauseam... 

...you blather a lot of strawman bs like your fellow nazi toadies, dude... post my words, not your blathering  interpretations...  

the history of war is a history of conflict between nations. 

Rome vs carthagenians, English vs French, Mongols vs Europe, etc. 

I would argue that no people have EVER been politically activated on the basis of some abstract political philosophy lol.

Even in the cases where the 'mainstream narrative' suggests that this did happen, it takes little investigstion to see that philosophy was the excuse, not the motive. 

The bosheviks, for example, were dominant lyrics Jewish. That was a Jewish war. Nobody gave a **** about workers rights...nor did any materialize lol. 

FOS » 26 Dec 2022, 6:37 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2022, 6:37 pm

the history of war is a history of conflict between nations. 

Rome vs carthagenians, English vs French, Mongols vs Europe, etc. 

I would argue that no people have EVER been politically activated on the basis of some abstract political philosophy lol.

Even in the cases where the 'mainstream narrative' suggests that this did happen, it takes little investigstion to see that philosophy was the excuse, not the motive. 

The bosheviks, for example, were dominant lyrics Jewish. That was a Jewish war. Nobody gave a **** about workers rights...nor did any materialize lol.

Hello FOS

I would like to ask if you know about Hitler's intentions assuming he got his wishes (lebensraum via Ukraine to supply his nation with resources/Stalin's hypothetical surrender). Since he perceived "Judea" as the greatest existential threat, naturally he would need to address this...sooner rather than later I would hope.

If the Jewish mafia comes after you in full force, it's unlikely any nation - no matter how stalwart/technologically advanced - could survive such an onslaught. 

Churchill was a drunk retard who was thoroughly beholden to Jews due to his profligate personal lifestyle + the fact the City of London was located in his backyard meant he was always going to be their (((SHABBOS GOY))), so I would ASSUME the UK would just conduct the equivalent of guerilla warfare since they never had the capacity to fight Germany on equal ground.

(It was also possible the Irish would have volunteered to help Germany in this scenario... "The enemy of my enemy" etc., although the extent and usefulness of their assistance is questionable at best lol...the IRA didn't make much inroads IIRC)

The problem is "Israel" was not formally recognized until after the war (even if the resettling began prior)...so how would he deal with "Judea?" How do you even fight a phantom foe with no boundaries, no borders, etc.? 

Another slight tangent:

Given the extent of (((International Finance))) wealth, as documented in the other thread I posted, I am finding it difficult to fathom if there is any way to repatriate the stolen/looted goods worth over $100T. The only scenarios I could imagine this happening are

1) Some kind of nuclear Armageddon and some g0yim survive (lol) to tell the tales and to deal with (((Them))) appropriately to ensure this type of global heist/enslavement never happens again...that's assuming the remaining g0yim are smart/intelligent/well-informed/brave enough

2) Extraterrestrial invasion...but instead of killing all lowly humans they set the poor g0yim free from the shackles of (((International Finance))) for god knows what reason

My imagination is slowly running its course. It seems to ME only some kind of miracle/deus ex machina can deal with the Octopus and its innumerable tentacles.