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Majik » 17 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm

You are the one claiming Trump bad ........while willing to overlook exactly how you were manipulated into believing Trump bad.
And what doesn't add up specifically ?

I don't think it is so much his record as it is the method to the madness and the fallout of that madness. From what I hear the White House was a place of constant chaos. Trump also moved away from protocol and became dangerous as the head of the United States government. If not for the wiser heads that  prevailed he would have done things like broken up NATO and bombed Mexico, things he actually considered as president. I personally feel safer at night knowing that a competent, level head is running the United States government right now.

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:16 pm

I don't think it is so much his record as it is the method to the madness and the fallout of that madness. From what I hear the White House was a place of constant chaos. Trump also moved away from protocol and became dangerous as the head of the United States government. If not for the wiser heads that  prevailed he would have done things like broken up NATO and bombed Mexico, things he actually considered as president. I personally feel safer at night knowing that a competent, level head is running the United States government right now.

I agree. Trump is a vile lying piece of **** that belongs in prison.
 

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 12:54 pm

20/20 vision happens with time. I think January 6th won't be judged well.

I think it wasn't the big deal you progs want it to be.
You call a protest, trespass, or whatever a **** insurrection?

...and after a year of burning cities being ignored as "peaceful".
Only a historian with his head up his *** would agree with you.

The aftermath (the J6 committee) will be judged as Assholes on Parade overshadowing an understandable emotional release.
 
 

Warcok » 16 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 7:03 pm

Republicans ended the 50-year long Cold war 35 years ago and Dimocrats brought it back in less than one year.

****!
"When you are stupid, you will believe anything!"

 
 

DeezerShoove » 17 Jan 2023, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 4:11 pm

I think it wasn't the big deal you progs want it to be.
You call a protest, trespass, or whatever a **** insurrection?

...and after a year of burning cities being ignored as "peaceful".
Only a historian with his head up his *** would agree with you.

The aftermath will be judged Assholes on Parade overshadowing an understandable emotional release.

Just because the BLM protests were to the point of being an extremely dangerous riot doesn't mean January 6th was a non-event. Angry armed "protestors" were breaking into the Capital building and chanting "hang Mike Pence!" Because Trump lost the election. I would even go further and say Trump's attitudes and words made the BLM protests even worse due to his comments and indifference to the black community. Whatever you call it, the protestors bordered on a coup attempt on the day the election was to be certified. 

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Jan 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:58 pm

I agree. Trump is a vile lying piece of **** that belongs in prison.

Even Christian groups are saying that now.

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 4:36 pm

Just because the BLM protests were to the point of being an extremely dangerous riot doesn't mean January 6th was a non-event. Angry armed "protestors" were breaking into the Capital building and chanting "hang Mike Pence!" Because Trump lost the election. I would even go further and say Trump's attitudes and words made the BLM protests even worse due to his comments and indifference to the black community. Whatever you call it, the protestors bordered on a coup attempt on the day the election was to be certified.

Gimme a break.

Who opened the doors from the inside to let them in?
Do you have ANY sense of skepticism about the line of **** you're eating?

btw
You just said protestors AND bordered on a coup attempt.

That's kind of a mealy-mouthed statement.
A little different from "insurrectionist attack".
 

nuckinfutz » 17 Jan 2023, 4:28 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 4:28 pm

****!
"When you are stupid, you will believe anything!"

 

Higher Rates Of Mental Retardation Have Been Found On The Far Left.

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 10:19 am

Well that's a long one but I will address two points. The first is our founding fathers. The British often say we are lucky to have a founding myth. However, that myth is not all fiction. We've been a nation for over 200 years on similar principles. Those principles were declared universal in 1948 and there has been a lot of success with that notion. Anyone who doesn't believe that most of the global South wouldn't want to live in America instead certainly sees the beacon that we truly are.
As far as empire, the United States could be considered one although not a traditional empire. We give the right of individual destiny in reciprocal fashion with economic benefit for many nations which usually see our presence as a positive and not a negative. We don't cut off the hands of those who rise against us like traditional empires vis a vie the British Empire. As a follower of Fascism the notion of Empire is probably more heavy handed given the actions of Hitler. To compare global commerce as an evil greater than the Third Reich is probably a misnomer to say the least.

The founding fathers , if alive today, would not recognize this country. That is an absurd thing to think. They believed that only white men of good character should be allowed to vote...okay?

this should simply be considered an objective and obvious truth, and i do not say this because i revere the founding fathers-i do not. It is simply the truth. If thomas jefferson were alive today, he would declare this country illegitimate and probably call for rebellion. 

so yes, our founding myth is complete fiction. 

we are far more brutal to any country that doesnt do what we want than the british empire or nazi germany ever was. Indeed, look at the way we treated Germany and Japan! and we label our adversaries as 'evil' rather than simply people we have a conflict of interest with. I do not know if you have any idea how bizarre an attitude that is historically...for almost all of history, countries could war with eachother, then negotiate some surrender, then get over it and become friends. NOT THE USA! we label a certain people or certain ideology as evil and we never stop until all of those people are utterly wiped out. 

this is of course a thing that we accused Hitler of doing (and i believe falsely)...as a psychological weapon imo. TO distract the world from our own war crimes in ww2.

to my knowledge, the ONLY people who have ever suggested that their national adversaries must be completely genocided are the jews. That is old testament mentality. Not even Babylonians, Egyptians, or Hittites at the time were that savage

FOS » 17 Jan 2023, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 6:47 pm

The founding fathers , if alive today, would not recognize this country. That is an absurd thing to think. They believed that only white men of good character should be allowed to vote...okay?

this should simply be considered an objective and obvious truth, and i do not say this because i revere the founding fathers-i do not. It is simply the truth. If thomas jefferson were alive today, he would declare this country illegitimate and probably call for rebellion. 

so yes, our founding myth is complete fiction. 

we are far more brutal to any country that doesnt do what we want than the british empire or nazi germany ever was. Indeed, look at the way we treated Germany and Japan! and we label our adversaries as 'evil' rather than simply people we have a conflict of interest with. I do not know if you have any idea how bizarre an attitude that is historically...for almost all of history, countries could war with eachother, then negotiate some surrender, then get over it and become friends. NOT THE USA! we label a certain people or certain ideology as evil and we never stop until all of those people are utterly wiped out. 

this is of course a thing that we accused Hitler of doing (and i believe falsely)...as a psychological weapon imo. TO distract the world from our own war crimes in ww2.

to my knowledge, the ONLY people who have ever suggested that their national adversaries must be completely genocided are the jews. That is old testament mentality. Not even Babylonians, Egyptians, or Hittites at the time were that savage

they would recognize it as old world traditional thinking that destroys honesty each generation added corrupting every great great grandchild until they become 1 of 16 dead great great grandparents or sibling that didn't.

Monderegal » 15 Jan 2023, 9:05 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2023, 9:05 pm

Why I'm deranged about Donald Trump.
 

And yet you voted for Biden.    
 

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 4:36 pm

Just because the BLM protests were to the point of being an extremely dangerous riot doesn't mean January 6th was a non-event. Angry armed "protestors" were breaking into the Capital building and chanting "hang Mike Pence!" Because Trump lost the election. I would even go further and say Trump's attitudes and words made the BLM protests even worse due to his comments and indifference to the black community. Whatever you call it, the protestors bordered on a coup attempt on the day the election was to be certified.

January 6 protesters were not armed.  Stop lying. 
3 people were doing that Pence chant.  So what? He was never in any danger. 
Trump never said anything that made BLM riots worse.  What he should have done, was call the The Guard and put the riots down by force. 
But then the liberal media would have crucified him, and you would have helped. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Jan 2023, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:58 pm

I agree. Trump is a vile lying piece of **** that belongs in prison.

EXACTLY.  And the only ones DERANGED are the hate filled, misinformed, malevolent minded SOCIOPATHS who support and defend this LUNATIC still.

B.See » 18 Jan 2023, 4:32 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 4:32 am

EXACTLY.  And the only ones DERANGED are the hate filled, misinformed, malevolent minded SOCIOPATHS who support and defend this LUNATIC still.

Aren't you supposed to be hiding in one of yer peanut galleries?   

aka:

Monderegal » 17 Jan 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:16 pm

I don't think it is so much his record as it is the method to the madness and the fallout of that madness. From what I hear the White House was a place of constant chaos. Trump also moved away from protocol and became dangerous as the head of the United States government. If not for the wiser heads that  prevailed he would have done things like broken up NATO and bombed Mexico, things he actually considered as president. I personally feel safer at night knowing that a competent, level head is running the United States government right now.

If you can't see that the Deepstate and Obama holdovers as well as the yellow MSM created that constant chaos in his administration then you are
obviously choosing to remain blind to it .
Biden is a puppet President installed by the globalists and the WEF Environmental death cult that wants North America to regress to third world status in the name of equity.

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Majik » 18 Jan 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 11:33 am

If you can't see that the Deepstate and Obama holdovers as well as the yellow MSM created that constant chaos in his administration then you are
obviously choosing to remain blind to it .
Biden is a puppet President installed by the globalists and the WEF Environmental death cult that wants North America to regress to third world status in the name of equity.

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Deepstate (n) : Anyone that didn't pledge complete and total loyalty to Donald Trump. i.e. Checks and Balances, the Rule of Law, Heads of Independent agencies. 
example: Trump wanted to bomb Mexico but the Deepstate prevented it.

Monderegal » 18 Jan 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 1:10 pm

Deepstate (n) : Anyone that didn't pledge complete and total loyalty to Donald Trump. i.e. Checks and Balances, the Rule of Law, Heads of Independent agencies. 
example: Trump wanted to bomb Mexico but the Deepstate prevented it.

how many meanings does the word "state" have combine that with "deep" because a depth only goes to the core and then starts heading back out without reversing direction or turning from a straight line.

B.See » 18 Jan 2023, 4:32 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 4:32 am

EXACTLY.  And the only ones DERANGED are the hate filled, misinformed, malevolent minded SOCIOPATHS who support and defend this LUNATIC still.

No link?


         

Monderegal » 18 Jan 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 1:10 pm

Deepstate (n) : Anyone that didn't pledge complete and total loyalty to Donald Trump. i.e. Checks and Balances, the Rule of Law, Heads of Independent agencies. 
example: Trump wanted to bomb Mexico but the Deepstate prevented it.

They deserve some housecleaning.

roadkill » 16 Jan 2023, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jan 2023, 7:59 am

I disagree...I think yer the one who has been suckered.

...   ... this from a republican-radio-level, puppet   $ucking monetary ignoramus!...