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impartialobserver » 17 Jan 2023, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:08 pm

yet they are willing to move to ID, NV, UT, OR, and MT... and not just to the cities. Twin Falls, Bozeman, Elko, LaGrande... all have seen growth all the while being mostly conservative and dominated by ranching, farming, and government. Hmmm...

  They are being maneuvered over to a different hunger games area. The agricultural areas rely on corporation subsidies that are controlled by a small executive group or dictator. Becoming an independent rancher would be difficult or impossible. The large corporation is OK, small independent ranchers and farmers are gone, this creates a controlled food supply. Wonderful representation for the large corporation group, little or no representation for the individual citizen and so the serf subsidizes a large anti creation corporation group that tends to not want or need the serf (Ya jump through the hoops or you know what happens, ya get banished like it was the year 1399).

"Spending Bill Contains $575 Million for ‘Reproductive Health’ >>>Where Population Growth<<< ‘Threatens Biodiversity"... Say what?

And then this: "We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to," Schumer said during the press conference. "The only way we're going to have a great future is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers and all of them"

 

Justthetruth » 17 Jan 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 2:43 pm

Most men these days don't want children in my experience.

with you? I'm sure there's no doubt...

RedheadedStranger » 17 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm

Why can't you just accept your bitch slapping like every one else idiot?

 

impartialobserver » 17 Jan 2023, 5:34 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Jan 2023, 5:34 pm

In my 20's, I considered getting a vasectomy. Not because of politics or having a gf pressure me into it. Just was quite discouraged and thought, "life sucks now and if I have a child.. it is going to suck even more". Needless to say, I did not but I had the money set aside and was ready for it.

I know that you are glad you didn't follow through with that.  You may not believe in God, but you seem to be a pretty good family man.
 

Skans » 18 Jan 2023, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jan 2023, 7:30 pm

I know that you are glad you didn't follow through with that.  You may not believe in God, but you seem to be a pretty good family man.

I am glad that I did not follow through with it. Early 20's simply were not a good time. Mostly braindead decisions and pride making life miserable. Low paying and unsatisfying jobs followed up with a very dismal outlook on women/society. The point is that my motivations were not political in the least and I have met men who have followed through and done so for the exact same reason as myself. 

I will say that having kids at a younger age usually does not work out. It leads to financial hardships and the parents simply not being ready. I was 37 when my son came about and I was ready in all phases.. physically, financially, and emotionally. 

impartialobserver » 19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm

I am glad that I did not follow through with it. Early 20's simply were not a good time. Mostly braindead decisions and pride making life miserable. Low paying and unsatisfying jobs followed up with a very dismal outlook on women/society. The point is that my motivations were not political in the least and I have met men who have followed through and done so for the exact same reason as myself. 

I will say that having kids at a younger age usually does not work out. It leads to financial hardships and the parents simply not being ready. I was 37 when my son came about and I was ready in all phases.. physically, financially, and emotionally.

I was 24 when our son came along, and 27 for our daughter. Between the two kids we bought our first home and both had steady, good paying jobs the whole time.

I sowed all my wild oats between the ages of 15 and 21ish, so by my mid 20's I was pretty much a nose to the grindstone homebody.

It's funny because on the day I turned 21 (legal to purchase alcohol) I stopped on the way home from work and bought six pack, drank two of them on the couch and was in bed by 9:30.

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 19 Jan 2023, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2023, 4:09 pm

I was 24 when our son came along, and 27 for our daughter. Between the two kids we bought our first home and both had steady, good paying jobs the whole time.

I sowed all my wild oats between the ages of 15 and 21ish, so by my mid 20's I was pretty much a nose to the grindstone homebody.

It's funny because on the day I turned 21 (legal to purchase alcohol) I stopped on the way home from work and bought six pack, drank two of them on the couch and was in bed by 9:30.

That's cool. My wild times were between 20 and 25. Spending 8 weeks on the street in Salt Lake City while not exactly wild was eye opening. 

impartialobserver » 19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm

I am glad that I did not follow through with it. Early 20's simply were not a good time. Mostly braindead decisions and pride making life miserable. Low paying and unsatisfying jobs followed up with a very dismal outlook on women/society. The point is that my motivations were not political in the least and I have met men who have followed through and done so for the exact same reason as myself. 

I will say that having kids at a younger age usually does not work out. It leads to financial hardships and the parents simply not being ready. I was 37 when my son came about and I was ready in all phases.. physically, financially, and emotionally.

Unfortunately it is a fact of life that men, in today's world, generally can't be good fathers until at least their late 30's. It's not that I'm disagreeing with you, it's just F-ed up.  It's against the natural order of mankind.

Big changes to mankind are happening right now.  Birth rates are dropping drastically in industrialized nations. I suspect that those societies which embrace the extended family, as a business and living together unit, will thrive. They will continue to make babies, have their children work for the family and everyone works to support each other within the family unit.  
 

Skans » 20 Jan 2023, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 9:34 am

Unfortunately it is a fact of life that men, in today's world, generally can't be good fathers until at least their late 30's. It's not that I'm disagreeing with you, it's just F-ed up.  It's against the natural order of mankind.

Big changes to mankind are happening right now.  Birth rates are dropping drastically in industrialized nations. I suspect that those societies which embrace the extended family, as a business and living together unit, will thrive. They will continue to make babies, have their children work for the family and everyone works to support each other within the family unit.  
 

what is the still missing link sinc dawn of civilization? Understanding evolving in plain sight is still a mystery in every society and shouldn't be since instincts navigate being spontaneously alive simultaneously here since conceived to replace previous generations never leaving previous ancestors born twice.

Oops, there goes that born again after birth mantra. Intellectual soul ****.

Nostradamus'omh » 20 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm

 

...................the rest of the story.
 

Nostradamus'omh » 20 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm

 

what is the still missing link sinc dawn of civilization?
Understanding evolving in plain sight is still a mystery in every society and shouldn't be
since instincts navigate being spontaneously alive
simultaneously here since conceived to replace previous generations
never leaving previous ancestors born twice.
, there goes that born again after birth
mantra. Intellectual soul ****..................the rest of the story

Skans » 20 Jan 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 1:50 pm

what is the still missing link sinc dawn of civilization?
Understanding evolving in plain sight is still a mystery in every society and shouldn't be
since instincts navigate being spontaneously alive
simultaneously here since conceived to replace previous generations
never leaving previous ancestors born twice.
Oops, there goes that born again after birth
mantra. Intellectual soul ****..................the rest of the story

You won't leave established fiction out of any conversation maintaining reasonable doubt will you. that in itself is a choice you make every time defending misrepresentation of evolving in real time.

Never watched the movie, but I have seen trailors for it since it came out, but I do think that is from "Who Flew over the Cookcoo's nest.". Again fiction doesn't describe me in real time. You make up **** to get everyone else to feel threatened by my instinctive honesty.

Nostradamus'omh » 20 Jan 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 1:58 pm

You won't leave established fiction out of any conversation maintaining reasonable doubt will you. that in itself is a choice you make every time defending misrepresentation of evolving in real time.

Never watched the movie, but I have seen trailors for it since it came out, but I do think that is from "Who Flew over the Cookcoo's nest.". Again fiction doesn't describe me in real time. You make up **** to get everyone else to feel threatened by my instinctive honesty.

All I did, Sole, was add one photo to your crazy rant.  For illustrative purposes, that's all. 
The rest.....................................is.....................................ALL YOU.
 
 

Skans » 20 Jan 2023, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 2:31 pm

All I did, Sole, was add one photo to your crazy rant.  For illustrative purposes, that's all. 
The rest.....................................is.....................................ALL YOU.
 
 

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. another texas side step is all you have left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALREbJZEZk

impartialobserver » 19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jan 2023, 3:23 pm

The point is that my motivations were not political in the least

A boast the vax nazis cannot make. 
 
 

Skans » 20 Jan 2023, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 9:34 am

Unfortunately it is a fact of life that men, in today's world, generally can't be good fathers until at least their late 30's. It's not that I'm disagreeing with you, it's just F-ed up.  It's against the natural order of mankind.

Big changes to mankind are happening right now.  Birth rates are dropping drastically in industrialized nations. I suspect that those societies which embrace the extended family, as a business and living together unit, will thrive. They will continue to make babies, have their children work for the family and everyone works to support each other within the family unit.

In societies wherein mobility is not common, children are surrounded by older role models - grandparents, great uncles and aunts, what have you.

Americans' mobility is a big part of what makes our parenting so weak. 
 

You don't have to get an abortion if you are already clipped.
 

Justthetruth » 20 Jan 2023, 11:19 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jan 2023, 11:19 pm

 

stop taking it in the *** *** stop spread aids ***