End Game in Ukraine

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By Monderegal
24 Jan 2023 9:56 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: We haven't invaded Ukraine, Syria, Libya (although there was an intervention there under R2P), Yemen, Venezuela, or Mexico.
Except through proxies.

Putin has not invaded Ukraine, either. He sent others.
Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: When we did invade Iraq it was met by condemnation even within the United States among others and it wasn't a mission to build empire. Afghanistan has been called the "good war" because we had a large host of nations supporting the mission (which is also the case with Iraq).
Yes, affie was a remarkably good war. Thanks for pointing that out.
Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: Ukraine was simply a response by Russia to take territory because Putin didn't like how Ukrainian politics was heading.
That's cute - "how Ukrainian politics was heading." Image Image Image

I take it this is a PC way of refencing the **** COUP D'ETAT Pulled off by the U.S.?

Tell me: Do you suppose a Russian-led coup in Mexico which planted an anti-American in the presidency and cleared the way for Russian and Chinese missiles to be place on our border would be met with equanimity?

Answer that - it is NOT rhetorical, so do not duck the question with irrelevant rhetoric.
Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: Did the Ukrainian people want closer ties with the West?
The will of the Ukrainian people, as expressed through the democratic process, was thwarted by the coup. They don't need YOU to speak for them - they have Obama and Biden for that. :rolleyes:
 
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Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: We haven't invaded Ukraine,
Let a Bernie Bro explain it to ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CALyC0DQ-h0
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 29 Jan 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: Except through proxies.

Putin has not invaded Ukraine, either. He sent others.

Yes, affie was a remarkably good war. Thanks for pointing that out.

That's cute - "how Ukrainian politics was heading." Image Image Image

I take it this is a PC way of refencing the **** COUP D'ETAT Pulled off by the U.S.?

Tell me: Do you suppose a Russian-led coup in Mexico which planted an anti-American in the presidency and cleared the way for Russian and Chinese missiles to be place on our border would be met with equanimity?

Answer that - it is NOT rhetorical, so do not duck the question with irrelevant rhetoric.

The will of the Ukrainian people, as expressed through the democratic process, was thwarted by the coup. They don't need YOU to speak for them - they have Obama and Biden for that. Image

So you basically think a democratically elected government is a coup d'état, but Russia is fighting a proxy war with his own soldiers. Makes sense to me. Also, China is already expanding its influence in places like Mexico. Mexico doesn't need Chinese missiles because the United States has a slim to no chance of invading Mexico. Ukraine fears Russia and they found that out too late.
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Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 5:06 pm » wrote: So you basically think a democratically elected government is a coup d'état,
It's clear your OWN thoughts are muddled and confused - don't try to help me with mine.

A coup d'etat against a democratic state is just that. You can **** mouth all you like. The facts remain, and are incontroverted. You were provided with taped evidence. You have no right to play stupid at this point. 
Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 5:06 pm » wrote: but Russia is fighting a proxy war with his own soldiers.
Russia is in a war involving US and NATO proxies. If you need further instruction on the meaning of the term proxy war, consult websters.
Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 5:06 pm » wrote: Makes sense to me. Also, China is already expanding its influence in places like Mexico. Mexico doesn't need Chinese missiles because the United States has a slim to no chance of invading Mexico. Ukraine fears Russia and they found that out too late.
If Mexico were negotiating to put chinese and russian missiles on our border, that slim to none chance would be a 100% chance.

Please - continue to post foolishly. You're getting weaker than a hypnosis subject.
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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