Elon Musk found not guilty of fraud over Tesla tweet

User avatar
By Vegas
7 Feb 2023 9:31 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
1 2
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 12:01 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: And he was dragged in front of a jury, and he took the stand, and in spite of his autism, the jury liked him better than it liked the prosecutor. And they gave him a pass. 

Get ice cream, bro.

That's because he is a great conman. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 12:02 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: My mom told me about santy claws. I learned my lesson about being gulled.

The guy who wants the stock price to run up? Image

Well, the jury felt like it was.

I suspect elon is posing as human and is actually a demon-child. So it's not like I have some loyalty to a billionaire. But I'm content to let juries sort this kind of ****. If elon pulled a **** and got away with it, se la vie.

Juries are filled with people in the public...who are idiots. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
Cannonpointer
10 Feb 2023 12:12 pm
User avatar
98% Macho Man
98% Macho Man
46,706 posts
Vegas » 10 Feb 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: That's because he is a great conman.
Okay.

Have you ever tried rum raisin by Haagen Dazs?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 1:34 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 07 Feb 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: I don't agree with this verdict. Musk said that he obtained funding to take Tesla private. He didn't. It wasn't a mistake; he had no confirmation that the funding was there. The defense said just because it was a bad tweet, that doesn't make it fraud. Why wouldn't shareholders believe him? He is the CEO and Tesla is a multibillion-dollar corporation. Of course the shareholders are going to believe him. They have zero reason not to. Consequently, shareholders suffered billions in damages. And Musk's response is, well sometimes the market is crazy. No apology. No acknowledgement of what his actions caused. Nothing. 

Unbelievable.
In other words, Vegas' stock market gambling was impacted?
Very same thing happens with negative earnings surprises.
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 1:38 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 09 Feb 2023, 7:56 pm » wrote: Yes, but it caused damages of literally billions of dollars. It was no small thing. Official or not, he said it for the shareholders to read with conviction.
So did the .com bubble.
So did Obama's housing bubble.
Billions of dollars worth of phony money.
When I was a kid a Hershey bar cost a nickel.
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 1:45 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
freeman » 10 Feb 2023, 2:38 pm » wrote: So did the .com bubble.
So did Obama's housing bubble.
Billions of dollars worth of phony money.
When I was a kid a Hershey bar cost a nickel.

These examples are simply due to the nature of the market. It wasn't due to deceiving the shareholders. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 1:46 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
freeman » 10 Feb 2023, 2:34 pm » wrote: In other words, Vegas' stock market gambling was impacted?
Very same thing happens with negative earnings surprises.
No. 
You are missing the point. 
 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 1:53 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » Today, 9:54 am » wrote: Today, 9:54 amThe shareholders made a decision based on the info given from the CEO of the company himself.
 
Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2023, 12:42 pm » wrote: The guy who wants the stock price to run up? Image
Like folks getting the clot shot based on Pfizer's CEO claim that the jabs were "safe and effective" based on Pfizer's trials!
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
Life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64
 
 
 
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 2:09 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 10 Feb 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: Juries are filled with people in the public...who are idiots.
While that's true, what you are effectively suggesting is that the typical jury in this day and age would more likely favor a billionaire, over the little people like you that you're suggesting he conned.

 
 
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 2:12 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
freeman » 10 Feb 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote: While that's true, what you are effectively suggesting is that the typical jury in this day and age, would more likely vote in favor of a billionaire, than the little people like you you're suggesting he conned.

Since you seem closer to it, I'm curious as to what the stock price was, before Musk said he would get funding, and what was the low the stock hit after it was learned that he wasn't getting funding?
I see the last price is $53.70.

I don't know the stock price at the time. I don't know why that would matter. The point is that he claimed he secured private funding. He didn't. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 2:13 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 10 Feb 2023, 3:12 pm » wrote: I don't know the stock price at the time. I don't know why that would matter. The point is that he claimed he secured private funding. He didn't.
Please disregard that second paragraph. I went off into Twitterland. But please do notice the edited post.
viewtopic.php?p=2227937#p2227933
 
 
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 2:19 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
freeman » 10 Feb 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote: While that's true, what you are effectively suggesting is that the typical jury in this day and age would more likely favor a billionaire, over the little people like you that you're suggesting he conned.
Musk has tons of followers. Millions and milli9ons. They don't see him as a conman. 

And why I say most people in the juries are idiots is because it's not uncommon for people to favor who they like over the evidence. If they didn't like the prosecutor, for whatever reason, then that itself would be enough to favor Musk. They put the evidence aside. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
freeman
10 Feb 2023 2:25 pm
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 10 Feb 2023, 3:19 pm » wrote: Musk has tons of followers. Millions and milli9ons. They don't see him as a conman. 
 
Because he's not. Eccentric, maybe. One of the most brilliant, ingenious, insightful and motivated in world history, definitely.
And why I say most people in the juries are idiots is because it's not uncommon for people to favor who they like over the evidence. If they didn't like the prosecutor, for whatever reason, then that itself would be enough to favor Musk. They put the evidence aside.
I'm sorry but you lost your sense of reason here. I did what I could.
User avatar
Vegas
10 Feb 2023 2:27 pm
User avatar
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
Beevee's Owner/Giant Slayer
20,860 posts
freeman » 10 Feb 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: Because he's not. Eccentric, maybe. One of the most brilliant, ingenious, insightful and motivated in world history, definitely.

I'm sorry but you lost your sense of reason here. I did what I could.

Actually, he really isn't. He never invented anything. He is a very talented businessman. Nothing more. 

You could make an effort to prove me wrong, but whatever. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



Image
User avatar
freeman
11 Feb 2023 7:09 am
User avatar
   
1,132 posts
Vegas » 10 Feb 2023, 3:27 pm » wrote: Actually, he really isn't. He never invented anything. He is a very talented businessman. Nothing more. 

You could make an effort to prove me wrong, but whatever.
The courts already did that.
 
User avatar
Skans
11 Feb 2023 11:22 am
User avatar
      
15,413 posts
Vegas » 07 Feb 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: I don't agree with this verdict. Musk said that he obtained funding to take Tesla private. He didn't. It wasn't a mistake; he had no confirmation that the funding was there. The defense said just because it was a bad tweet, that doesn't make it fraud. Why wouldn't shareholders believe him? He is the CEO and Tesla is a multibillion-dollar corporation. Of course the shareholders are going to believe him. They have zero reason not to. Consequently, shareholders suffered billions in damages. And Musk's response is, well sometimes the market is crazy. No apology. No acknowledgement of what his actions caused. Nothing. 

Unbelievable.
Let's hope he powers back with a huge lawsuit over the prosecution of this bogus case!
 
User avatar
Deezer Shoove
11 Feb 2023 12:50 pm
User avatar
Senior Moderator
Senior Moderator
10,229 posts
Musk made a better car company than DeLorean.
We are ALL helping buy those **** things.

Plus, we charge them with coal, gas, nuke anyway.  :cool:  

95% of the electric in EV charging comes from non-sustainable poisonous sources.
We are doomed. Every thing is **** fake these days.

If Tesla owners used wind and solar they wouldn't be so **** phony.
Please seat yourself.

Image

I like the very things you hate.
1 2

Who is online

In total there are 2289 users online :: 14 registered, 20 bots, and 2255 guests
Bots: MSIECrawler, SiteLockSpider, Not, DuckDuckBot, Bolt, DuckDuckGo, LCC, CriteoBot, proximic, MaxPointCrawler, ADmantX, YandexBot, Googlebot, facebookexternalhit, okhttp, bingbot, Applebot, Mediapartners-Google, curl/7, Baiduspider
Updated 3 minutes ago
© 2012-2026 Liberal Forum

Search