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ZiggyX » 16 Feb 2023, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 6:35 pm

The Global Trading Community seem to like it.

Gee who belongs to that besides Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, so many more governing lines of communication, economic turn of events, values of commodities people need day to day.

Control the market place of free will trading time giving away what one is so social censensus gets to define everyone by how they obey power of suggesting now isn't eternity.

Nostradamus'omh » 16 Feb 2023, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 6:59 pm

Gee who belongs to that besides Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, so many more governing lines of communication, economic turn of events, values of commodities people need day to day.

Control the market place of free will trading time giving away what one is so social censensus gets to define everyone by how they obey power of suggesting now isn't eternity.

It's a Group that tries to implement 'Free Markets'.
The Goal is to reduce 'Tariffs, Quotas, Subsidies' that Governments put in place to 'protect' certain industries.

ZiggyX » 16 Feb 2023, 7:59 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 7:59 pm

It's a Group that tries to implement 'Free Markets'.
The Goal is to reduce 'Tariffs, Quotas, Subsidies' that Governments put in place to 'protect' certain industries.

you're back to ignoring life for a justified social reality's sake. Again reasonable doubt wins again.

Nostradamus'omh » 16 Feb 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 8:03 pm

you're back to ignoring life for a justified social reality's sake. Again reasonable doubt wins again.

Yeah.  Living in Reality.  What a Concept.

Skans » 16 Feb 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 1:02 pm

Monderegal » 15 Feb 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2023, 2:06 pm

Contemporary political theory seems to have the political spectrum as a single line. The left reaches all the way to radical communism. The right reaches all the way to radical fascism. There is a problem with this. It has become something in political science called horseshoe theory. The fact is that both fascism and communism are mostly one in the same. Therefore the spectrum is not a straight line but converges on the ends like a horseshoe. Both communism and fascism are dictatorships that rely on socialist policies that come from extremely authoritative governments.. Therefore most of the radicals are expressing the same beliefs. Perhaps the history of the USSR and Nazi Germany have skewed the spectrum. Is there really any difference between the radicals?

Nonsense.   Let's look at this from a practical standpoint.  The leaders on the far left or far right just want power - they want it anyway they can get it without actually having to work for it within a system which they neither have the skills or resources to achieve any success. They are power-hungry people who are "shut-out" of the existing power structure.  To that extent, there is little difference when we get down to what really drives them - Communism, Fascism, or Anarchy.

Nonsense answered by nonsense. The far left was bowed to by the fbi and allowed to burn cities and murder cops. What the **** are you talking about?

The far left wants to indocrinate and sexualize school children - and they're **** doing it, IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, and if parents - CENTRIST parents - complain, they go on the **** FBI watch list for possible prosecution and likely the **** no-fly. How in the **** is that not the radical left being empowered by the state?

Meanwhile, the radical RIGHT - notwithstanding its anemia and the rarity of its political expressions - is deemed "the number one terror threat" by a politicized, left-leaning justice department. 

You need to reverse the order. First think, THEN type. You've said stupid **** in the past, but this is up there, son. Might be a topper.
 
 
 

Trumprules » 16 Feb 2023, 10:03 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 10:03 pm

I don't listen to radical nothing.

STFU, fruitcake. You're subhuman.
 

slideman » 16 Feb 2023, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 1:38 pm

In as much as they both wish to destroy the democratic order in the United States they are in that respect similar.
Protection of the democratic order in America against both extremes is my priority.
I have no sympathy for the anarchists

We've seen your idea of "protecting democracy," fruitcake. 

It starts with defending censorship, and using Citizens United rational to do so, you right wing, neocon ****. 
 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 16 Feb 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 12:05 pm

The Socialists did not benefit from this in Yugoslavia.
Are Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo Socialist dictatorships now?
I do not think this is a valid comparison.
The US was never divided into ethnic states as Yugoslavia is.

I do agree that name-calling is a negative thing. People with guns of course should know how to use them.

Trumpism encouraged divisiveness. Do not vote for Trumpists.

 
 

ZiggyX » 16 Feb 2023, 7:59 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 7:59 pm

It's a Group that tries to implement 'Free Markets'.
The Goal is to reduce 'Tariffs, Quotas, Subsidies' that Governments put in place to 'protect' certain industries.

Only the most treasonous government would fail to protect vital industries. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 16 Feb 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 12:05 pm

The Socialists did not benefit from this in Yugoslavia.
Are Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo Socialist dictatorships now?
I do not think this is a valid comparison.
The US was never divided into ethnic states as Yugoslavia is.

I do agree that name-calling is a negative thing. People with guns of course should know how to use them.

Trumpism encouraged divisiveness. Do not vote for Trumpists.

The division between North and South may as well be ethnic states. 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Feb 2023, 10:02 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 10:02 pm

Nonsense answered by nonsense. The far left was bowed to by the fbi and allowed to burn cities and murder cops. What the **** are you talking about?

The far left wants to indocrinate and sexualize school children - and they're **** doing it, IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, and if parents - CENTRIST parents - complain, they go on the **** FBI watch list for possible prosecution and likely the **** no-fly. How in the **** is that not the radical left being empowered by the state?

Meanwhile, the radical RIGHT - notwithstanding its anemia and the rarity of its political expressions - is deemed "the number one terror threat" by a politicized, left-leaning justice department. 

You need to reverse the order. First think, THEN type. You've said stupid **** in the past, but this is up there, son. Might be a topper.

Perhaps by the justice system but I would also argue that the far right tends to be given more leeway in some circumstances too. Many police departments and you might even argue the FBI itself is more lenient and sympathetic to the far right. Notwithstanding, horseshoe theory is just that, a theory about extremists. the right and left pull is real but they tend to converge at the extremes.

Monderegal » 16 Feb 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 10:11 pm

Perhaps by the justice system but I would also argue that the far right tends to be given more leeway in some circumstances too. Many police departments and you might even argue the FBI itself is more lenient and sympathetic to the far right.

They allowed the left to occupy cities, burn cities, loot cities. The allowed the left to SECEED FROM AMERICA in Seattle, taking stolen real estate with them - no protection for the owners. The FBI quite literally bowed to the protesters in the street, and police left Kenosha unguarded, then went after a kid who stood up to the criminals with everything at their disposal.

Give me an EXAMPLE - not mere rehetoric about hunches or feelings - of ANY police agency giving the far right some kind of latitude.

Monderegal » 16 Feb 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 10:11 pm

Notwithstanding, horseshoe theory is just that, a theory about extremists. the right and left pull is real but they tend to converge at the extremes.

I'm well acquainted with the theory. There is no question that some of the METHODOLOGY of the extremes will overlap. As an eager advocate of mass executions, I totally get it. But the notion that there are not important distinctions is a silly one.

 
 

Monderegal » 15 Feb 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2023, 2:06 pm

Contemporary political theory seems to have the political spectrum as a single line. The left reaches all the way to radical communism. The right reaches all the way to radical fascism. There is a problem with this. It has become something in political science called horseshoe theory. The fact is that both fascism and communism are mostly one in the same. Therefore the spectrum is not a straight line but converges on the ends like a horseshoe. Both communism and fascism are dictatorships that rely on socialist policies that come from extremely authoritative governments.. Therefore most of the radicals are expressing the same beliefs. Perhaps the history of the USSR and Nazi Germany have skewed the spectrum. Is there really any difference between the radicals?

there is no real difference between 'left' and 'right'. these merely describe 2 different echo chambers.

there is massive difference between fascism and communism.

Nostradamus'omh » 15 Feb 2023, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2023, 6:02 pm

when are you ever going to be honest about evolving in real time? You open up your post wanting history to repeat over and over again so you believe you got in front of the curve living eternally separated forward now.
 

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When I was a young buck back in Catholic school, we use to sing a song at the opening of History class. 
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History repeats itself...men do as they did long ago.

Solo...why not answer the question instead of playing etymological games !

IMHO there is always a thin line between extremists they are always the same in behavior... just at opposite poles.  
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Feb 2023, 10:07 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 10:07 pm

Only the most treasonous government would fail to protect vital industries.

Like this:

"Federal sugar policies confer benefits on a small group of sugar growers, but they damage consumers and U.S. food companies. Congress has provided a sweet deal for sugar growers since it imposed import tariffs on sugar in 1789. Controls on domestic sugar production date back to the Jones-Costigan Act of 1934."
cato /sites/cato /files/pubs/pdf/tbb_0607_46.pdf

"Production Quotas. In addition to controlling sugar imports, the government imposes quotas, or “marketing allotments,” on U.S. production. Each year, the USDA decides what total U.S. sugar production ought to be and then allots it 54.35 percent to beet sugar and 45.65 percent to cane sugar. Most sugar beet production is in Minnesota, Idaho, North Dakota, Michigan, and California. Most sugarcane production is in Florida and Louisiana. The USDA allots each U.S. state and each sugar company a specific quota based on a complicated formula. In sum, the sugar industry is a cartel that is centrally planned from Washington."

Cannonpointer the Communist ... who knew?

 

ZiggyX » 16 Feb 2023, 9:39 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2023, 9:39 pm

Yeah.  Living in Reality.  What a Concept.

it is just a concept of whatifisms and what about situational ethics on those not complying to social consensus, that rule of law stuff that gets ancestries believing interpretation defines physical absolutes evolving in plain sight series parallel displacement as genetically positioned now.

All 8 billion current occupants of the earth ship lock in eternal orbit around the same star it has been every lifetime lived and living so far. Dah!

Nostradamus'omh » 17 Feb 2023, 5:54 am » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2023, 5:54 am

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All 8 billion current occupants of the earth ship lock in eternal orbit around the same star it has been every lifetime lived and living so far. Dah!

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Everything Is Broken - YouTube

MackTheFinger » 17 Feb 2023, 5:58 am » wrote: ↑

17 Feb 2023, 5:58 am

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Everything Is Broken - YouTube

why is everything broken as balancing outcomes never end changing the arriving differences from past to future occupying space one at a time now?

Stop honoring reasonable doubt history uses against each great great grandchild cradle to grave as a greater good goal saving tomorrow's children today.

those that never learn from their own history are doomed to recyle the history of their ancestrral behavior each generation added to the moment here. Like how you are behaving here with all those greater good intentions, what if scenarios, defending everyone's rights to believe nobody knows living inside out evolving forward now, one at a time.

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