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Here is a question for everyone.

Are either of these t-shirts racist, and if so, why?


 
Can one be accepted in society while the other not?
 

It's a far left-wing myth/conspiracy theory that some people hate other people because of the color of their skin.

There has yet to be any evidence of the skin color bias.

Neither are racist. Racism is the belief that a group of people are inferior based on solely their race. The definition has unfortunately crept into describing anything racial as racist, a patently foolish notion. I don't blame the spooks for this, it's clearly the fault of white progressive women and their cockhold brow beaten men servicing their entitled pussies.

Warcok » 19 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm

It's a far left-wing myth/conspiracy theory that some people hate other people because of the color of their skin.

There has yet to be any evidence of the skin color bias.

Racism does exist, though not to the extent that the media and the politicians would have us believe.

It's a generational phenomenon, and gets weaker by the generation... which means that the elites start losing it as a wedge to keep the masses off balance and easier to control. This is why we are currently seeing the media and pols pushing it back to forefront at every chance in the last decade or so.

The more they keep us at each other's throats, the less we pay attention to the nefarious **** they are doing behind the scenes, and "racism" is a great wedge.

In regards to the shirts, I say free speech permits both to be acceptable, though I don't agree with the message of either.

I also think that if someone gets their *** beat for wearing the shirt on the top, it would be called a "hate crime"...while if someone got their *** beat for wearing the shirt on the bottom, it would be called "justice". The double standard would definitely apply here.
 
 
 

Warcok » 19 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm

It's a far left-wing myth/conspiracy theory that some people hate other people because of the color of their skin.

There has yet to be any evidence of the skin color bias.

"Systemic racism is a scientifically tractable phenomenon, urgent for cognitive scientists to address. This tutorial reviews the built-in systems that undermine life opportunities and outcomes by racial category, with a focus on challenges to Black Americans. From American colonial history, explicit practices and policies reinforced disadvantage across all domains of life, beginning with slavery, and continuing with vastly subordinated status. Racially segregated housing creates racial isolation, with disproportionate costs to Black Americans’ opportunities, networks, education, wealth, health, and legal treatment. These institutional and societal systems build-in individual bias and racialized interactions, resulting in systemic racism. Unconscious inferences, empirically established from perceptions onward, demonstrate non-Black Americans’ inbuilt associations: pairing Black Americans with negative valences, criminal stereotypes, and low status, including animal rather than human. Implicit racial biases (improving only slightly over time) imbed within non-Black individuals’ systems of racialized beliefs, judgments, and affect that predict racialized behavior. Interracial interactions likewise convey disrespect and distrust. These systematic individual and interpersonal patterns continue partly due to non-Black people’s inexperience with Black Americans and reliance on societal caricatures. Despite systemic challenges, Black Americans are more diverse now than ever, due to resilience (many succeeding against the odds), immigration (producing varied backgrounds), and intermarriage (increasing the multiracial proportion of the population). Intergroup contact can foreground Black diversity, resisting systemic racism, but White advantages persist in all economic, political, and social domains. Cognitive science has an opportunity: to include in its study of the mind the distortions of reality about individual humans and their social groups."

https://cognitiveresearchjournal.spring ... 21-00349-3

Not that you would want to know

slideman » 19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm

Not that you would want to know

Your own article seems to validate my previous post.

Racism, by and large, is and has wained with each passing generation, and will continue to do so naturally. Hatred for another is taught, and I personally believe that constantly preaching division to the youth isn't helping. It's moving backwards.

When you tell a room full of elementary kids that little Tommy's great grandaddy probably owned little Deonte's great grand daddy and subjected him to the horrors of slavery, that's creating animosity not healing... in my opinion.

Healing is creating a society where Tommy and Deonte see each other as equals, and are treated as such. Telling Tommy he "owes" Deonte for his ancestors past transgressions is ridiculous. At that point you are pitting the two kids against each other, instead of bringing them together, and it's counterproductive.
 
 

slideman » 19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm

Not that you would want to know

Systemic racism is a phenomena that exists in many large American cities and police departments that have been controlled by Democrat mayors and city councils since passage of the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1965.

After passage of the Biden Amendment in 1975 repealing sections of the Civil Rights Act, systemic racism flourished in Democrat strongholds.In 2021, socialist leader Joe Biden issued a racist vaccine mandate which would disemploy anyone not receiving the covid vaccine.

​​​​​While the Democratic party lost the Civil War, it won the battle to control the United States Civil Service bureaucracy. Since the end of Reconstruction in 1876 and passage of the 1882 Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act, the Democratic party is no longer dependent on the spoils system and winning elections to maintain its power.

 With the defeat of the Democrats and the South, to the victors went the spoils. Republicans immediately stripped white males who engaged in rebellion against the United States of the vote, and gave it to Blacks. Newly freed Blacks held local, state and federal elected and non-elected positions as Republicans. The white males who were deprived of the vote were also barred from holding any civil service position and were universally Democrats. This disenfranchisement created enormous resentment among Democrats, so they formed the Ku Klux Klan to engage in voter intimidation and suppression.
 
 
 

And then there was the southern strategy and all those Democrats became Republicans.

slideman » 19 Feb 2023, 6:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:57 pm

And then there was the southern strategy and all those Democrats became Republicans.

Because Reagan went to Mississippi and blew his dog whistle... right?

 

slideman » 19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:04 pm

Not that you would want to know

I don't need to know someone's opinion.
 

RedheadedStranger » 19 Feb 2023, 6:24 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 6:24 pm

Your own article seems to validate my previous post.

Racism, by and large, is and has wained with each passing generation, and will continue to do so naturally. Hatred for another is taught, and I personally believe that constantly preaching division to the youth isn't helping. It's moving backwards.

When you tell a room full of elementary kids that little Tommy's great grandaddy probably owned little Deonte's great grand daddy and subjected him to the horrors of slavery, that's creating animosity not healing... in my opinion.

Healing is creating a society where Tommy and Deonte see each other as equals, and are treated as such. Telling Tommy he "owes" Deonte for his ancestors past transgressions is ridiculous. At that point you are pitting the two kids against each other, instead of bringing them together, and it's counterproductive.

I don't believe racism is taught, it's learned from first hand exposure, observational awareness,  and personal desires.....I prefer to keep company with people like myself....is that racist, I think not.

 

RebelGator » 19 Feb 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:16 pm

I don't believe racism is taught, it's learned from first hand exposure, observational awareness,  and personal desires.....I prefer to keep company with people like myself....is that racist, I think not.

I don't see preferring to keep company with your own race as being racist. It's just personal choice.

Now hating people not of your race, simply because of their race, is a whole other ball of wax. 


 

RedheadedStranger » 19 Feb 2023, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:25 pm

I don't see preferring to keep company with your own race as being racist. It's just personal choice.

Now hating people not of your race, simply because of their race, is a whole other ball of wax.

White people have no reason to hate Black people.
But Black people hate White people because of Slavery.  It's a common bond.
What's funny, is that it doesn't matter if your ancestors fought on the Union side to free Blacks, your ancestors were Quakers that supported the Underground Railroad bringing Slaves to freedom, or that your ancestors arrived 50 years after the Civil War, ... they still hate you because you are 'white'.

ZiggyX » 19 Feb 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:33 pm

White people have no reason to hate Black people.
But Black people hate White people because of Slavery.  It's a common bond.
What's funny, is that it doesn't matter if your ancestors fought on the Union side to free Blacks, your ancestors were Quakers that supported the Underground Railroad bringing Slaves to freedom, or that your ancestors arrived 50 years after the Civil War, ... they still hate you because you are 'white'.

Yep... it makes about as much sense as a white guy hating all blacks because a black guy robbed his grandaddy 80 years ago.

That brother working at the 7-11 today didn't have **** to do with that.
 
 

ZiggyX » 19 Feb 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:33 pm

White people have no reason to hate Black people.
But Black people hate White people because of Slavery.  It's a common bond.
What's funny, is that it doesn't matter if your ancestors fought on the Union side to free Blacks, your ancestors were Quakers that supported the Underground Railroad bringing Slaves to freedom, or that your ancestors arrived 50 years after the Civil War, ... they still hate you because you are 'white'.

Well that was a mouthful of stupid

RedheadedStranger » 19 Feb 2023, 7:36 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:36 pm

Yep... it makes about as much sense as a white guy hating all blacks because a black guy robbed his grandaddy 80 years ago.

That brother working at the 7-11 today didn't have **** to do with that.

Short Story.
I'm from SoCal.  I came to New Orleans in the 60s.  I was 18, walked up to a Bus Stop and saw a Black guy about 22-24.  I stuck out my hand and said "Hey Brother, what's up".  He said "We'll be Brothers when I can **** your wife, your daughter, your mother, and your sister for the next 400 years".  I just stood there with my mouth open, ... flabbergasted.  He had no idea who I was, all he knew was that I was 'white'.  
In the 60s, I thought it would take a generation to solve the 'Race' problem, now I think it will take a hundred years, maybe longer.  I think it will depend on 'intermarriage' between the races, I think the hatred runs that deep.

Warcok » 19 Feb 2023, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:37 pm

Well that was a mouthful of stupid

It's an honest assessment from someone from a part of the country that didn't have 'separate Drinking Fountains' or 'sit in the back of the Bus' rules.  In San Diego, the mood was that we are all equal, all 'God's Children', all Brothers and Sisters.  It was a rude awakening on my introduction to the 'Southern Mentality'.  This guy hated me and there was nothing I could do about it.  

ZiggyX » 19 Feb 2023, 7:52 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2023, 7:52 pm

It's an honest assessment from someone from a part of the country that didn't have 'separate Drinking Fountains' or 'sit in the back of the Bus' rules.  In San Diego, the mood was that we are all equal, all 'God's Children', all Brothers and Sisters.  It was a rude awakening on my introduction to the 'Southern Mentality'.  This guy hated me and there was nothing I could do about it.

You poor, guilt ridden bastard, all this time and you thought it was your fault.

Denial of structural racism linked to anti-Black prejudice

"People who deny the existence of structural racism are more likely to exhibit anti-Black prejudice and less likely to show racial empathy or openness to diversity, according to research published by the American Psychological Association.

However, there were no similar findings for people who claimed they ignore race, which was instead associated with greater openness to diversity, the study found."

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases ... -prejudice