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What the Drone affair is really about.
What the Drone affair is really about.
By Xavier_Onassis
16 Mar 2023 11:16 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Mar 2023 6:57 pm
YOU ARE SUPPORTING CORRUPTION, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IN UKRAINE AND THE COLLAPSE OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FROM AN UNWARRANTED INVOLVEMENT IN UKRAINEXavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 6:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Crimea is part of Ukraine, according to everyone but Russia.
You are supporting a cruel and corrupt dictator.
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16 Mar 2023 6:58 pm
Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ The US claims that the airspace over the Black Sea is open to all.
The Russians claim that they have imposed a "special limit" over this airspace.
So the US sends the drone in to insist on its refusal to accept any such special limits.
The Russian tries to disable the drone and it crashes.
This is about airspace over oceans and seas, not just in the Black Sea but also over the Taiwan Strait and other locations.
Gee...the US has never encroched anywhere.
16 Mar 2023 7:00 pm
righteous » 16 Mar 2023, 6:57 pm » wrote: ↑ YOU ARE SUPPORTING CORRUPTION, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IN UKRAINE AND THE COLLAPSE OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FROM AN UNWARRANTED INVOLVEMENT IN UKRAINE
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Xavier is special.
16 Mar 2023 7:08 pm
Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ Precisely, nothing. We lost a drone.
Russia is not going to attack the US over a drone.
You'll have to excuse me if I pass on your judgement, as I recall..... you voted for Andrew Gillum.
16 Mar 2023 7:24 pm
HE HAS THE VISION AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE GEOPOLITICAL WORLD AS A PUBESCENT BOY
16 Mar 2023 7:28 pm
righteous » 16 Mar 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑ HE HAS THE VISION AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE GEOPOLITICAL WORLD AS A PUBESCENT BOY
If that much.
16 Mar 2023 7:33 pm
the USA has no business having drones in the black sea. We also have no business starting coups in Ukraine and funding a war between russia and ukraine. Not only is it unethical...it is also just stupid. this is why russia, china, iran, india, and even now saudi arabia are feeling forced to unite against the usa.
16 Mar 2023 10:11 pm
Putin will win by attrition. We are bombarded by Russian casualty reports. Where are Ukrainian casualty reports? Russia will mobilize 1.5 million. How many men can Ukraine toss into the grinder. Russia has been attacking Bakhmut for 7 months to gain 29 km. The Wagner group has been decimated. The dope that runs Wagner will not survive the war. Estimates of Russian casualties at Bakhmut are up to 30,000. How many Ukrainians have perished? Ukraine does not have the manpower to stop the Russian grinder no matter what we give them, and no matter how incompetent the ill supplied Russian army is. There is a certain amount of resistance in Russia but not enough to stop the war. Negotiate a deal.
16 Mar 2023 10:12 pm
No ****?Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ The US claims that the airspace over the Black Sea is open to all.
The Russians claim that they have imposed a "special limit" over this airspace.
So the US sends the drone in to insist on its refusal to accept any such special limits.
The Russian tries to disable the drone and it crashes.
This is about airspace over oceans and seas, not just in the Black Sea but also over the Taiwan Strait and other locations.
Biden is weak. He'll capitulate.
And China is going to take Taiwan soon because Xi owns Biden and he needs to move before Biden loses office.
16 Mar 2023 10:14 pm
Why do you think Zelenskyy has started talking about American and European troops being needed to fight?johndnorth » 16 Mar 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Putin will win by attrition. We are bombarded by Russian casualty reports. Where are Ukrainian casualty reports? Russia will mobilize 1.5 million. How many men can Ukraine toss into the grinder. Russia has been attacking Bakhmut for 7 months to gain 29 km. The Wagner group has been decimated. The dope that runs Wagner will not survive the war. Estimates of Russian casualties at Bakhmut are up to 30,000. How many Ukrainians have perished? Ukraine does not have the manpower to stop the Russian grinder no matter what we give them, and no matter how incompetent the ill supplied Russian army is. There is a certain amount of resistance in Russia but not enough to stop the war. Negotiate a deal.
Poland just gave Zelenskyy planes.
Whatever Zelenskyy wants, he eventually gets.
17 Mar 2023 7:53 am
What does the US gain by arming Ukraine? The US has already spent more arming Ukraine than the entire annual Russian military budget. But at what cost to US military armament supplies and US security?
The hundreds of small suppliers that form the backbone of the military industrial base are working to locate the required components to build new missiles, including rare earth materials and electrical components. Why? Because much of what is required comes from communist china!!! China has become the main supplier of many of the rare earth minerals used by US munitions manufacturers.
Another problem is US munitions manufacturers are not geared up for mass production because of the continued outsourcing to foreign (china mainly) of the US manufacturing base. Did anyone not see that this could have serious repercussions US on national security or was it just fueled greed?
The hundreds of small suppliers that form the backbone of the military industrial base are working to locate the required components to build new missiles, including rare earth materials and electrical components. Why? Because much of what is required comes from communist china!!! China has become the main supplier of many of the rare earth minerals used by US munitions manufacturers.
Another problem is US munitions manufacturers are not geared up for mass production because of the continued outsourcing to foreign (china mainly) of the US manufacturing base. Did anyone not see that this could have serious repercussions US on national security or was it just fueled greed?
17 Mar 2023 8:54 am
Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 4:31 pm » wrote: ↑ I find is disgusting that any American would take the side of Putin.
Of all Israel's neighbors, Syria is the most dangerous. Egypt and Jordan were bought off by the US and the UK. Lebanon is a basket case and as close to a failed state as any in the region. Assad is as horrible a person as Putin.
But this drone affair was just an example of Russia and the US testing one another. Was the Russian pilot acting non professionally? I would not say that, he was doing what he was told to do. Military pilots obey orders. I would be surprised if all the communications between the Russian pilot and Putin were intercepted by US intel.
No actual action will occur because of this. Just as the skirmishes the US and Russia have had in Syria, this was a mutual game of chicken.
Of course, the drone could have easily and deliberately collided with the Russian plane, but did not.
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17 Mar 2023 9:01 am
NOTHING OBAMA DID OR DID NOT DO IN SYRIA HAS ONE DAMNED THING TO DO WITH THIS DRONE INCIDENT, dipstick.righteous » 16 Mar 2023, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑ WESTERN PROPAGANDA HAS IMBECILES LIKE YOU BELIEVING THE DRONE WAS IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE WHEN IF FACT IT WAS HEADING STRAIGHT FOR THE FEDERATION BORDER AS IT CROSSED INTO CRIMEAN AIRSPACE.
RUSSIAN SU-27 FIGHTER JETS PISSED ON IT WITH FUEL.
NO THREAT GETS UNPUNISHED. AMERICA OVERSTEPPED ITS BOUNDARIES WITH ITS INVOLVEMENT IN UKRAINE. THEY FORGET ITS NOT SYRIA THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
17 Mar 2023 9:18 am
and America is the chicken. Ignorant one at that!Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ Putin wants to play a low intensity game of chicken here. This has happened several times in Syria as well. Both side are playing chicken, and they have been doing this for years.
Those drones are expensive. But I am sure the Russians have also lost equipment as well.
This is NOT a major development.
17 Mar 2023 9:25 am
Who was vastly preferable to asshole DeSantis. Anbd to you as well, you stupid peckerwood.RebelGator » 16 Mar 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑ You'll have to excuse me if I pass on your judgement, as I recall..... you voted for Andrew Gillum.
17 Mar 2023 10:22 am
IOW, in an all out conventional war against Russia or China the US couldn't last 2 days before running out of bullets.Buffalo » 17 Mar 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑ What does the US gain by arming Ukraine? The US has already spent more arming Ukraine than the entire annual Russian military budget. But at what cost to US military armament supplies and US security?
The hundreds of small suppliers that form the backbone of the military industrial base are working to locate the required components to build new missiles, including rare earth materials and electrical components. Why? Because much of what is required comes from communist china!!! China has become the main supplier of many of the rare earth minerals used by US munitions manufacturers.
Another problem is US munitions manufacturers are not geared up for mass production because of the continued outsourcing to foreign (china mainly) of the US manufacturing base. Did anyone not see that this could have serious repercussions US on national security or was it just fueled greed?
But maybe the new woke, inclusive of queers, trannys and ***, diverse military could disgust them into surrendering.
17 Mar 2023 10:54 am
Biden cannot negotiate a deal, Who can? The Ukrainians and the Russians.johndnorth » 16 Mar 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Putin will win by attrition. We are bombarded by Russian casualty reports. Where are Ukrainian casualty reports? Russia will mobilize 1.5 million. How many men can Ukraine toss into the grinder. Russia has been attacking Bakhmut for 7 months to gain 29 km. The Wagner group has been decimated. The dope that runs Wagner will not survive the war. Estimates of Russian casualties at Bakhmut are up to 30,000. How many Ukrainians have perished? Ukraine does not have the manpower to stop the Russian grinder no matter what we give them, and no matter how incompetent the ill supplied Russian army is. There is a certain amount of resistance in Russia but not enough to stop the war. Negotiate a deal.
Weren't the Viet Cong vastly outnumbered by the Americans?
Weren't the Afghanis outnumbered by the Russians?
Weren't the Afghanis also outnumbered by the Americans?
Isn't that how we won in Vietnam and Afghanistan, and how the Russians conquered Afghanistan?
17 Mar 2023 12:47 pm
And you're proving you think history began when a dope like you was born!Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 6:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Crimea is part of Ukraine, according to everyone but Russia.
You are supporting a cruel and corrupt dictator.
Clearly, you're unaware of the fact that Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 until 1954 when it became the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic under Khrushchev.
Get it through your thick liberal head that there is NO "good" side to take in this war! Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and has been for decades, and Zelensky has turned it into more of an authoritarian dictatorship than a democracy, having banned all opposition and making it a one-party state. All Ukrainian TV is now under his governmental control, while he has outlawed some religions and begun arresting their priests.
I'm no Putin supporter, but neither am I the ignorant, blind supporter of Ukraine you are who is happily gullible enough to swallow the lies and incompetence of the demented idiot you voted for and his fawning media while Biden bankrupts THIS country to keep his corrupt money-laundering schemes intact!
Wake the **** up, fool, because it's going to take TRILLIONS OF US TAXPAYER DOLLARS to not only reach the inevitable negotiated stalemate that's coming, but then to begin rebuilding the entire country that's been completely decimated by the war! You think you've seen the worst of inflation, supply disruptions, high-gas prices, bank failures, and rising interest rates so far? Just wait to see where you're brain-dead moron takes this country over his remaining two years!
17 Mar 2023 12:56 pm
Vlad said "NO SPYING joe!!!"Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ The US claims that the airspace over the Black Sea is open to all.
The Russians claim that they have imposed a "special limit" over this airspace.
So the US sends the drone in to insist on its refusal to accept any such special limits.
The Russian tries to disable the drone and it crashes.
This is about airspace over oceans and seas, not just in the Black Sea but also over the Taiwan Strait and other locations.
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17 Mar 2023 1:29 pm
So the drone has an emergency memory wipe? I wonder how long till a 13 year old figures out how to hack it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFcs6QRPQKk
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