What the Drone affair is really about.

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By Xavier_Onassis
16 Mar 2023 11:16 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Skans
17 Mar 2023 1:39 pm
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Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: The US claims that the airspace over the Black Sea is open to all.
The Russians claim that they have imposed a "special limit" over this airspace.
So the US sends the drone in to insist on its refusal to accept any such special limits.
The Russian tries to disable the drone and it crashes.

This is about airspace over oceans and seas, not just in the Black Sea but also over the Taiwan Strait and other locations.
It didn't just "crash".  Its pilots forced it down so as not to allow the Russians to capture it.   Also, the drone wasn't merely there to "insist on its refusal to accept special airspace limits".  It was sent there to do reconnaissance on Russian Military operations.
 
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Skans » 17 Mar 2023, 1:39 pm » wrote: It didn't just "crash".  Its pilots forced it down so as not to allow the Russians to capture it.   Also, the drone wasn't merely there to "insist on its refusal to accept special airspace limits".  It was sent there to do reconnaissance on Russian Military operations.

I am hearing the Russians damaged the prop???
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17 Mar 2023 1:47 pm
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PastorBlast » 17 Mar 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: I am hearing the Russians damaged the prop???
 
I tend to doubt that.  The Russians could have just shot the damn thing. 
 
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17 Mar 2023 2:02 pm
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johndnorth » 16 Mar 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: Putin will win by attrition. We are bombarded by Russian casualty reports. Where are Ukrainian casualty reports? Russia will mobilize 1.5 million. How many men can Ukraine toss into the grinder. Russia has been attacking Bakhmut for 7 months to gain 29 km. The Wagner group has been decimated. The dope that runs Wagner will not survive the war. Estimates of Russian casualties at Bakhmut are up to 30,000. How many Ukrainians have perished? Ukraine does not have the manpower to stop the Russian grinder no matter what we give them, and no matter how incompetent the ill supplied Russian army is. There is a certain amount of resistance in Russia but not enough to stop the war. Negotiate a deal.
You are right.  The west and their lapdog media are not telling he whole story.

Ukraine has demoted a top battlefield commander after he admitted his unit had been decimated in fighting around the city of Bakhmut.

The battalion commander, known by his call sign Kupol, gave an unusually frank assessment of Ukrainian losses in an interview from the front lines earlier this week.

He revealed that all of the original 500 soldiers in his unit had either been killed or injured, a rare acknowledgement from inside the Ukrainian ranks, where losses are kept strictly confidential.

The Ukrainian high command is at pains to present a positive spin on the increasingly bloody defence of the East. US officials have estimated that the Ukrainian army may have taken 120,000 casualties compared to 200,000 by the Russian army.

Kupol told the Washington Post this week that the Ukrainian army training was often poor and that some of the rookie replacements didn’t know how to throw a hand grenade or fire a rifle.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-co ... 52957.html
 
 
 
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17 Mar 2023 6:05 pm
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Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 9:01 am » wrote: NOTHING OBAMA DID OR DID NOT DO IN SYRIA HAS ONE DAMNED THING TO DO WITH THIS DRONE INCIDENT, dipstick.
NO ONE SAID IT DID, NUMBNUTS. A SIMILARIZATION OF AMERICA/NATOS BRAZEN APPROACH TO INTERFERE WHERE IT HAS NO JURISDICTION. ONE RESULTING IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS DEATHS, THE OTHER INVOLVING ITSELF IN AN UNWARRANTED PROXY WAR. 


 
 
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17 Mar 2023 6:09 pm
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Skans » 17 Mar 2023, 1:39 pm » wrote: It didn't just "crash".  Its pilots forced it down so as not to allow the Russians to capture it.   Also, the drone wasn't merely there to "insist on its refusal to accept special airspace limits".  It was sent there to do reconnaissance on Russian Military operations.
NOT QUITE. IT WAS PISSED ON BY THE FEDERATIONS SU-27 FIGHTER JETS BLINDING THE DRONES OPTICAL INSTRUMENTS SENDING IT WHERE IT BELONGS, THE BLACK SEA. 
 
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righteous » 17 Mar 2023, 6:05 pm » wrote: NO ONE SAID IT DID, NUMBNUTS. A SIMILARIZATION OF AMERICA/NATOS BRAZEN APPROACH TO INTERFERE WHERE IT HAS NO JURISDICTION. ONE RESULTING IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS DEATHS, THE OTHER INVOLVING ITSELF IN AN UNWARRANTED PROXY WAR.
China is going to broker peace in Ukraine?



 
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18 Mar 2023 10:49 am
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righteous » 17 Mar 2023, 6:09 pm » wrote: NOT QUITE. IT WAS PISSED ON BY THE FEDERATIONS SU-27 FIGHTER JETS BLINDING THE DRONES OPTICAL INSTRUMENTS SENDING IT WHERE IT BELONGS, THE BLACK SEA.
Ok.  They destroyed a drone.  LOL - not really that big of a deal.
 
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18 Mar 2023 10:55 am
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Skans » 18 Mar 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: Ok.  They destroyed a drone.  LOL - not really that big of a deal.

The story I heard was they disabled the prop. My question is what is the glide slope?

Supposedly we had time to wipe it clean while it glided and I guess we would know the precise coordinates of splashdown

I was amazed to hear you could buy drones on Alibaba the other day..  Drones can do other things besides killing people.
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18 Mar 2023 11:09 am
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Skans » 18 Mar 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: Ok.  They destroyed a drone.  LOL - not really that big of a deal.
IT IS FOR WESTERN MEDIA
 
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righteous » 18 Mar 2023, 11:09 am » wrote: IT IS FOR WESTERN MEDIA
You are opposed to Western Media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_mF0DhDSlo

 
 
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Xavier_Onassis » 16 Mar 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: The US claims that the airspace over the Black Sea is open to all.
The Russians claim that they have imposed a "special limit" over this airspace.
So the US sends the drone in to insist on its refusal to accept any such special limits.
The Russian tries to disable the drone and it crashes.

This is about airspace over oceans and seas, not just in the Black Sea but also over the Taiwan Strait and other locations.
Stick with Subaru Brokebacks, Dr. Brokeback.

A "foreign policy expert" you ARE NOT and nor are you any kind of military engagement expert either.

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