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Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

A couple of points...

1) SNAP benefits should not be open ended. They should only provide basic staples for sustenance and not **** like Snicker's bars, gas station hot dogs, and Monster energy drinks. 

2) A budget is rarely blown on big ticket items. It's nickel and dimed to death on the little stuff. The attitude that "well it's only a couple of bucks more" is what runs people out of money at the end of the month and leaves them unable to pay their bills and/or provide for their families.

3) Borrowing money to pay debt is a fools errand. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is just stupid.

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 17 Mar 2023, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 11:00 am

A couple of points...

1) SNAP benefits should not be open ended. They should only provide basic staples for sustenance and not **** like Snicker's bars, gas station hot dogs, and Monster energy drinks. 

2) A budget is rarely blown on big ticket items. It's nickel and dimed to death on the little stuff. The attitude that "well it's only a couple of bucks more" is what runs people out of money at the end of the month and leaves them unable to pay their bills and/or provide for their families.

3) Borrowing money to pay debt is a fools errand. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is just stupid.

All of this is spot on, but number 3 is the most important. That's what leads into a whirlpool of debt that is impossible to escape. 

It's easy to spot a welfare queen in a grocery store. They tend to shop for the whole month when they get their Obama bucks. There's hardly any fresh produce in their basket. It's 85% carbs and sugar.

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

There is no "right to eat".  You, individually, have the right to PURSUE life, liberty and happiness.  I would assume that life and happiness are tied to eating.  Therefore, it is your right to obtain food for yourself, not the government's duty to feed you.
 

Friend is on snap. End of the month she brings us sushi platters from the grocery store. While I enjoy grocery store sushi as much as the next person I remember eating government cheese and crackers. We should perhaps return to that model?

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

You're just putting this out there as the reason why the inevitable collapse happened. It's coming and the making belongs squarely to Joe Biden. Live with the ramifications of your choice.
 

Vegas » 17 Mar 2023, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 11:07 am

All of this is spot on, but number 3 is the most important. That's what leads into a whirlpool of debt that is impossible to escape.

There has been only about FOUR YEARS in which the US government did not spend more than it took in. And that was when Andrew Jackson STOLE the lands that the Five Civilized Tribes in the South had cleared off and planted. Then he sold it to future slaveholders so they could grow cotton.

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 12:07 pm

There has been only about FOUR YEARS in which the US government did not spend more than it took in. And that was when Andrew Jackson STOLE the lands that the Five Civilized Tribes in the South had cleared off and planted. Then he sold it to future slaveholders so they could grow cotton.

And this has what to do with your OP exactly?

You get your *** kicked on your topic, so you try to change the subject of YOUR OWN thread to "white man bad".

You're pathetic.

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YOU are pathetic.
And ignorant of history as well.

You bitch about deficit spending DESPITE that every administration but one ended their term with a deficit.
There was nary a word about deficit spending when Trump was president, and he spent LOTS more than Obama did.

Neo » 17 Mar 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 12:02 pm

Friend is on snap. End of the month she brings us sushi platters from the grocery store. While I enjoy grocery store sushi as much as the next person I remember eating government cheese and crackers. We should perhaps return to that model?

That was called "commodities" and it was embarrassing.
Heaven forbid we find any shame EVER in our lives.

It was incentive to GET THE **** OFF OF WELFARE.

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 2:06 pm

YOU are pathetic.
And ignorant of history as well.

You bitch about deficit spending DESPITE that every administration but one ended their term with a deficit.
There was nary a word about deficit spending when Trump was president, and he spent LOTS more than Obama did.

News flash dumb ***.

I've been bitching about deficit spending for decades.

Are you going to counter any of the points made about the actual topic of your thread, or just keep crying about Trump?


 

What happens when social security sunsets?

What does that mean? If you were born on or before date x you are entitled to benefits?

We have some amazing churches in town who help the community.

Someone is saying you have no right to eat?

RedheadedStranger » 17 Mar 2023, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 11:00 am

A couple of points...

1) SNAP benefits should not be open ended. They should only provide basic staples for sustenance and not **** like Snicker's bars, gas station hot dogs, and Monster energy drinks. 

2) A budget is rarely blown on big ticket items. It's nickel and dimed to death on the little stuff. The attitude that "well it's only a couple of bucks more" is what runs people out of money at the end of the month and leaves them unable to pay their bills and/or provide for their families.

3) Borrowing money to pay debt is a fools errand. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is just stupid.

oh my gawd...they want to starve babies....CNNLOL SAYS is going to blow a gasket

Do you ever think about how refrigeration plays a role in the human food cycle?

I do everyday that I help build the systems

These are the compressors we use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbfswZd6Wio

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

Xavier_Onassis

you eat mens asses that is why you aids
 

John » 17 Mar 2023, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 5:35 pm

you eat mens asses that is why you aids

Any major dude will tell ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzzdlp ... rt_radio=1

 

DeezerShoove » 17 Mar 2023, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 2:10 pm

That was called "commodities" and it was embarrassing.
Heaven forbid we find any shame EVER in our lives.

It was incentive to GET THE **** OFF OF WELFARE.

I don't believe people should be shamed for poverty but think sushi might be an indicator that things have gone too far the other direction. We should return to sending out government manufactured food as a start. 
 

Xavier_Onassis » 17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2023, 10:45 am

there are many people who eat that i personally think should not. likewise there are many people who starve, even in the SNAP era, who i think should not.