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It seems that there are those who have come out against some people having kids. Poverty, perceived and actual behavior of some adults, even the pressure some kids feel to embrace the gay lifestyle. Are we ever going to reach positive demographics again in this type of environment? 

White Americans are upset because people who are not White are an ever increasing percentage of the population.
The consumer economy depends on constant growth, which means that for the economy to grow, then the population must grow.
Being as White Americans have only two or fewer children, then the only way that the population can grow is to import people from other countries.

The main reason why White Americans have fewer children is that their wages have been stagnant in real dollar terms since Reagan in the early 1980's. Note that Reagan authorized millions of illegal immigrants to become citizens. Reagan knew who wrote his scripts and it sure as hell was not the American working class, or the middle class.

It was in the early 1980's that most families had working wives. This is because it was the only way for them to maintain their status and pay the bills.

Productivity has increased enormously... but the salaries of the most productive workers have not come close to rising with the productivity of the wage earners.

Orban is a smart and great leader.
Paying and rewarding families to have more kids.
Great policy.

Xavier_Onassis » 29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm

 
The consumer economy depends on constant growth, which means that for the economy to grow, then the population must grow.
 

That is a myopic view of things. Human beings are the most prolific mammal on the planet. We outnumber the verminous rat whose profligacy is one of it's most disgusting features. Constant growth is ultimately unsustainable. People who reduce things merely to economics and not the environment need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Xavier_Onassis » 29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm

White Americans are upset because people who are not White are an ever increasing percentage of the population.
The consumer economy depends on constant growth, which means that for the economy to grow, then the population must grow.
Being as White Americans have only two or fewer children, then the only way that the population can grow is to import people from other countries.

The main reason why White Americans have fewer children is that their wages have been stagnant in real dollar terms since Reagan in the early 1980's. Note that Reagan authorized millions of illegal immigrants to become citizens. Reagan knew who wrote his scripts and it sure as hell was not the American working class, or the middle class.

It was in the early 1980's that most families had working wives. This is because it was the only way for them to maintain their status and pay the bills.

Productivity has increased enormously... but the salaries of the most productive workers have not come close to rising with the productivity of the wage earners.

It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with economics. Poor people are having too many children the can’t support.
 

Punch » 29 Apr 2023, 10:22 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 10:22 pm

That is a myopic view of things. Human beings are the most prolific mammal on the planet. We outnumber the verminous rat whose profligacy is one of it's most disgusting features. Constant growth is ultimately unsustainable. People who reduce things merely to economics and not the environment need to pull their heads out of their asses.

Rats have a lifespan of under three years. And no, I do not think that there are more humans than rats. There has never been a rat census.
Rats are not the issue here, in any case.

Obviously, the consumer economy depends on constant growth. Just obviously, it is unsustainable. However, the US is comparatively underpopulated, compared to China, India, Bangladesh and India.

I was not in any way reducing anything to economics, I was addressing the changes in the makeup of the population of this country changing from majority White to on in which there is no majority with regard to race.

This is what the neoNazis at Charlottesville were complaining about when they chanted, "Jews will no replace us". Being as they are Nazis, they think that Jews are deliberately causing the migration of people from poorer and non-White countries to the USA.
Apparently their solution to his problem is extermination of immigrants and of course, Jews.

what every american must consider. the third generation of nevada children are having brain abscesses. it is normal that after people are exposed to chemicals, viruses, or radiation, their third generating has health problems. usa causing massive health problems in cambodia from dumping agent orange. in the late 1940's and 50', scientist warned the government that testing atom bombs in nevada might cause third generation health problems.  AND IT HAS.  GOVERNMENT EXPOSED THEIR TROOPS TO THE RADIATION; AND SAID "NO PROBLEM". these troops have third generation children with brain abscesses. as usa continues using chemicals, biological agents and depleted uranium in their wars, humans on earth will vanish. if your grandfather was in the nevada test area, DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN!!!!

WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IN NEVADA TESTING AREAS: usa was testing atom bombs, chemical agents and biological agents at the same time. some of the cocktails of war, got released and killed utah sheep. it is a crime, what the usa government freaks has created for the future children. it is unbelievable that congress could do this. knowing this, they just keep funding the mutation of people into grotesque living things.

Is walkingstick himself a horrid mutant?

Monderegal » 29 Apr 2023, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 6:59 pm

It seems that there are those who have come out against some people having kids. Poverty, perceived and actual behavior of some adults, even the pressure some kids feel to embrace the gay lifestyle. Are we ever going to reach positive demographics again in this type of environment?

  Voting to subsidize large corporation groups that tend to send people down the road with nothing but a few clothes and some large corporation paperwork or "collect on dead peasants insurance" and then placing the blame your own individual person/persons.

Escaping into a drug stupor vs recognizing reality and solving problems, adapting by overcoming vs adapting by conforming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09nXwFgmGGY


 

Monderegal » 29 Apr 2023, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 6:59 pm

It seems that there are those who have come out against some people having kids. Poverty, perceived and actual behavior of some adults, even the pressure some kids feel to embrace the gay lifestyle. Are we ever going to reach positive demographics again in this type of environment? 

Stupidity prevails with everyone sharing your mind and social consensus.

People are dying left and right, Will Congressmen refrain from eating the flesh of vaccinated pigs and cattle?
Banks are vaccinating potatoes, bananas and BUGS!

Xavier_Onassis » 01 May 2023, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 May 2023, 10:24 am

People are dying left and right, Will Congressmen refrain from eating the flesh of vaccinated pigs and cattle?
Banks are vaccinating potatoes, bananas and BUGS!

is that charitable food banks ran by "non profit organizations" or federal reserve institutions and currency?

Xavier_Onassis » 29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2023, 7:23 pm

White Americans are upset because people who are not White are an ever increasing percentage of the population.
The consumer economy depends on constant growth, which means that for the economy to grow, then the population must grow.
Being as White Americans have only two or fewer children, then the only way that the population can grow is to import people from other countries.

The main reason why White Americans have fewer children is that their wages have been stagnant in real dollar terms since Reagan in the early 1980's. Note that Reagan authorized millions of illegal immigrants to become citizens. Reagan knew who wrote his scripts and it sure as hell was not the American working class, or the middle class.

It was in the early 1980's that most families had working wives. This is because it was the only way for them to maintain their status and pay the bills.

Productivity has increased enormously... but the salaries of the most productive workers have not come close to rising with the productivity of the wage earners.

Uggggghhhhhh.....will you ever stop pulling out the 'race' ****? This lie has run its course. It no longer works. Try another lie. 

Cedar » 30 Apr 2023, 2:25 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2023, 2:25 am

It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with economics. Poor people are having too many children the can’t support.

Why are they poor?
Because 90% of the wealth in this country is owned by a teensy percentage of the population.
You don't want poor people to reproduce.
If you are a typical White American, you have not  reproduced enough for the consumer economy to grow, which is what it must do.
Race is clearly related to poverty, and poverty is clearly is related to economics.
If there is not a sufficient number of unemployed poor people, then the employers are forced to give up more of their wealth to pay them.
That would result in more competition for the employers.

Xavier_Onassis » 01 May 2023, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑

01 May 2023, 10:36 am

Why are they poor?
Because 90% of the wealth in this country is owned by a teensy percentage of the population.
You don't want poor people to reproduce.
If you are a typical White American, you have not  reproduced enough for the consumer economy to grow, which is what it must do.
Race is clearly related to poverty, and poverty is clearly is related to economics.
If there is not a sufficient number of unemployed poor people, then the employers are forced to give up more of their wealth to pay them.
That would result in more competition for the employers.

Wealth isn't owed, it is controlled by who has the persuasion of power suggesting the ideas ancestries sacrificing their biological time to make their defined reality happen socially here as designed by rule of law.

I learned during puberty, evolving was a universal constant that separates all living forms to adapt in space existing in the shared moment here. But humanity blocks anyone from finding out all there is to understand how and why living never exceeds relative time theory suggesting each person's origin is beyond the moment here where nothing stays the same form changing shape since a fertilized cell lasting until a decomposed corpse.

Then as I reached the legal age to get a job, everyone starts saying to find a career to identify with socially. Always swearing oaths to never question ideology again.
Follow the money and always trust hypothetical values more than genetic results left alive now.

Again I come back to lesser of two evils, Original sin or political corruption of every great great grandchild added forward now?
all academia does is teach how to gain a social advantage over everyone else alive. Arts define where evolution should arrive tomorrow. Economics motives people to be loyal to a royal we and eliminate anyone not respecting promises of better tomorrows than ancestrally reached today.

Nostradamus'omh » 01 May 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

01 May 2023, 10:41 am

Wealth isn't owed, it is controlled by who has the persuasion of power suggesting the ideas ancestries sacrificing their biological time to make their defined reality happen socially here as designed by rule of law.

I suggest you walk  up to the billionaire of your choice and tell him that he does not own his wealth.
The law say he does, and you are only a pathetic flake blathering about ancestries sacrificing biological time.

How do you sacrifice time?
Do you plunge a ritual knife into its beating heart? 
Or do you follow the kosher rules to slit its jugular and let it bleed to death?
Then, do yo cook it and serve it to the priests and their attendants?

Xavier_Onassis » 01 May 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

01 May 2023, 10:50 am

I suggest you walk  up to the billionaire of your choice and tell him that he does not own his wealth.
The law say he does, and you are only a pathetic flake blathering about ancestries sacrificing biological time.

How do you sacrifice time?
Do you plunge a ritual knife into its beating heart? 
Or do you follow the kosher rules to slit its jugular and let it bleed to death?
Then, do yo cook it and serve it to the priests and their attendants?

Gee like they would listen and not have their body guards show me the error of questioning authority figures.

Damn my answer is accurate to all your 4 questions.

Damn my answer is accurate to all your 4 questions.

What answer? You have answered nothing. All you do is gibber and blather.

Cedar » 30 Apr 2023, 2:25 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2023, 2:25 am

It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with economics. Poor people are having too many children the can’t support.

The Bible says in Genesis that God instructed Adam and Eve, Noah, and Abraham to be fruitful and multiply. That's the theological argument for holding all life as precious and a gift. It doesn't matter if you grow up poor in my estimation. Success and money can be a religion too.