China Balloons - Civilians Can Shoot Them Down...

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By Skans
2 May 2023 7:23 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Theoretically, any civilian with a .50 BMG rifle can shoot down the China Balloons.  A 50 caliber rifle has a vertical range of approximately 122,000 feet in optimal conditions.  The China balloons travel in a narrow range of 52,000 feet to 64,000 feet.  This is about half the distance of what a projectile from a 50 BMG rifle can attain.

I propose that a group of civilians with Barrett 50 caliber rifles (or others) gather together in one location where the balloon is projected to travel over.  If enough 50 caliber rifles were fired in a tight grid pattern, ahead of the forward vector of the balloon (would need to be calculated), there is a decent chance that at least one projectiles would strike and damage it.

A typical Barrett 82A1 has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds.  If you gathered 25 shooters, that would be a grid of 5x5 for 10 successive shots.  And, you can have an unlimited number of magazines.  So, the shots would be fired perhaps a rate of 1 round per 8 seconds. After one magazine, the balloon may move out of range.  You would want to time this so that everyone on a coordinated basis goes through at least one magazine.

What would this accomplish?
  • It would show China that WE, THE PEOPLE will go to war with the Chinks, regardless of what our sopping-wet ******-President does.
  • It would show China how much WE, THE PEOPLE care about them.
  • It would signal our own Government that if they can't take care of business, WE, THE PEOPLE can and will.
  • And, it would be a crap-ton of fun.
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2 May 2023 8:12 am
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I priced them.
Because well,you know.
They're $8,799.00 new at Sportsamans Warehouse.
I'd still love to have one though.
I forget what one of those single shot Sebula things go for but I don't trust them after watching Scott on YouTube at Kentucky Ballistics almost get killed when his blew up.
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2 May 2023 8:18 am
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Squatchman » 02 May 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: I priced them.
Because well,you know.
They're $8,799.00 new at Sportsamans Warehouse.
I'd still love to have one though.
I forget what one of those single shot Sebula things go for but I don't trust them after watching Scott on YouTube at Kentucky Ballistics almost get killed when his blew up.
What would a sportsman hunt with a 50 caliber $8799 gun?
If you wan to shoot down a Chinese balloon, go right ahead.
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Squatchman » 02 May 2023, 8:12 am » wrote: I priced them.
Because well,you know.
They're $8,799.00 new at Sportsamans Warehouse.
I'd still love to have one though.
I forget what one of those single shot Sebula things go for but I don't trust them after watching Scott on YouTube at Kentucky Ballistics almost get killed when his blew up.
The only 50 caliber I'd buy would be the Barrett 82A1, and actually $8,800 is a really good price for a new one. I recall seeing people 10 years ago trying to sell their used 82A1's for close to $10K

HOWEVER, actually shooting one of these for **** and giggles is expensive. About $3.50 every time you pull that trigger.  I would take maybe one or 2 shots with it and then keep it in my safe with a stash of 50BMG.  Heck, that's what I do with most of my guns anyway, no biggie.  It's just that I don't want to spend $9K on another safe queen. 

The last rifle (bullpup) I purchased was a 308.  I actually enjoy shooting that, albeit ammo is still expensive.  Still, it's fun to shoot and I've got a nephew who likes shooting it as well. So, it gets a little "love" every now and then. 
 
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2 May 2023 8:33 am
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Shoot down a Chinese spy balloon and the Xiden administration will have you arrested for treason and destruction of government property
 
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2 May 2023 8:38 am
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Xavier_Onassis » 02 May 2023, 8:18 am » wrote: What would a sportsman hunt with a 50 caliber $8799 gun?
If you wan to shoot down a Chinese balloon, go right ahead.
Vehicles.  Or, Somali pirates through vehicles at long distances. There are better rounds than 50BMG for hunting big game.
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Skans » 02 May 2023, 7:23 am » wrote: Theoretically, any civilian with a .50 BMG rifle can shoot down the China Balloons.  A 50 caliber rifle has a vertical range of approximately 122,000 feet in optimal conditions.  The China balloons travel in a narrow range of 52,000 feet to 64,000 feet.  This is about half the distance of what a projectile from a 50 BMG rifle can attain.

I propose that a group of civilians with Barrett 50 caliber rifles (or others) gather together in one location where the balloon is projected to travel over.  If enough 50 caliber rifles were fired in a tight grid pattern, ahead of the forward vector of the balloon (would need to be calculated), there is a decent chance that at least one projectiles would strike and damage it.

A typical Barrett 82A1 has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds.  If you gathered 25 shooters, that would be a grid of 5x5 for 10 successive shots.  And, you can have an unlimited number of magazines.  So, the shots would be fired perhaps a rate of 1 round per 8 seconds. After one magazine, the balloon may move out of range.  You would want to time this so that everyone on a coordinated basis goes through at least one magazine.

What would this accomplish?
  • It would show China that WE, THE PEOPLE will go to war with the Chinks, regardless of what our sopping-wet ******-President does.
  • It would show China how much WE, THE PEOPLE care about them.
  • It would signal our own Government that if they can't take care of business, WE, THE PEOPLE can and will.
  • And, it would be a crap-ton of fun.
 
As long as you get them to shoot as vertically as possible.
Two reasons: Straighter line of flight for the bullet (plus target is as close as possible).
Also, the bullet loses its ballistic characteristics and becomes an object falling at terminal velocity.
Lessens the chances of being deadly upon impact when it comes back down.
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DeezerShoove » 02 May 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: As long as you get them to shoot as vertically as possible.
Two reasons: Straighter line of flight for the bullet (plus target is as close as possible).
Also, the bullet loses its ballistic characteristics and becomes an object falling at terminal velocity.
Lessens the chances of being deadly upon impact when it comes back down.
Well, there are a lot of things to consider - wind, distance, trajectory of the moving target.  That's why I think a grid pattern would be better than a one-off rifle firing at the target. Tracers might be a good idea too.
 
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Skans » 02 May 2023, 10:17 am » wrote: Well, there are a lot of things to consider - wind, distance, trajectory of the moving target.  That's why I think a grid pattern would be better than a one-off rifle firing at the target. Tracers might be a good idea too.
All I know is New Years Eve there's a lot of guns fired into the air in Detroit.
A few other "holidays" too.

People that get hurt are not so much from a straight up shot as one shot at 45˚.
There is still a lot of fps on that type of trajectory.
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Xavier_Onassis » 02 May 2023, 8:18 am » wrote: What would a sportsman hunt with a 50 caliber $8799 gun?
If you wan to shoot down a Chinese balloon, go right ahead.
Squirrels.
 
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I agree.
If you're going to eat the little bastard then a pellet gun would be a decent choice.

If you just want to kill it to get rid of it, what difference does it make what you kill it with?
One shot, no suffering is important.
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2 May 2023 11:14 am
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Balloons are scary

Only thing scarier...TIKTOK.
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Skans » 02 May 2023, 7:23 am » wrote: Theoretically, any civilian with a .50 BMG rifle can shoot down the China Balloons.  A 50 caliber rifle has a vertical range of approximately 122,000 feet in optimal conditions.  The China balloons travel in a narrow range of 52,000 feet to 64,000 feet.  This is about half the distance of what a projectile from a 50 BMG rifle can attain.

I propose that a group of civilians with Barrett 50 caliber rifles (or others) gather together in one location where the balloon is projected to travel over.  If enough 50 caliber rifles were fired in a tight grid pattern, ahead of the forward vector of the balloon (would need to be calculated), there is a decent chance that at least one projectiles would strike and damage it.

A typical Barrett 82A1 has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds.  If you gathered 25 shooters, that would be a grid of 5x5 for 10 successive shots.  And, you can have an unlimited number of magazines.  So, the shots would be fired perhaps a rate of 1 round per 8 seconds. After one magazine, the balloon may move out of range.  You would want to time this so that everyone on a coordinated basis goes through at least one magazine.

What would this accomplish?
  • It would show China that WE, THE PEOPLE will go to war with the Chinks, regardless of what our sopping-wet ******-President does.
  • It would show China how much WE, THE PEOPLE care about them.
  • It would signal our own Government that if they can't take care of business, WE, THE PEOPLE can and will.
  • And, it would be a crap-ton of fun.
Guy using an ordinary O/U shotgun.Barrett 82A1 50 BMG 10-round Semi-Auto.
I don't think your facts are correct, I don't think a 50 BMG will travel 23 miles.
 
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2 May 2023 11:30 am
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Please, please...never play the Monopoly game...if it was made in China.

Its a secret take over of US banks.... :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
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2 May 2023 11:32 am
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We must empty our homes of Chinese made goods.....

and burn them in a bonfire. All these objects are filled with Chinese Demonic Powers :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
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2 May 2023 12:26 pm
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Cedar » 02 May 2023, 11:26 am » wrote: I don't think your facts are correct, I don't think a 50 BMG will travel 23 miles.
You could be right, I'll need to go back and check these figures.
 
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2 May 2023 12:33 pm
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OMG, please stop playing Chinese Checkers....its a plot to take down the US.

PLEASE
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2 May 2023 12:34 pm
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Keep vigilant...they are after us....


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2 May 2023 4:43 pm
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Sumela » 02 May 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: Keep vigilant...they are after us....

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Why do Asians look so strange? 
 
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Skans » 02 May 2023, 4:43 pm » wrote: Why do Asians look so strange?
God's sense of humor I suppose
 
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