‘Raise the age’ gun bill passes in Texas

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8 May 2023 3:01 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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SouthernFried » 08 May 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: It won't matter. They will just pull them from their parents/friends gun safes/cabinets anyways. Even if you could snap your fingers and make AR-15's literally cease to exist, it would change nothing. People would just walk into schools/grocery stores/malls, etc.... with any semi-auto handgun, shotgun or other type of rifle and blast people away. The AR-15 isn't the problem. The problem is mental health and it's totally being ignored. In all actuality, it's being shoved down peoples throats. Liberalism IS a mental disorder and this country swings further left than it ever has before. It's no surprise people are **** crazy.
It is no surprise that you are crazy! Now, go **** yourself!
 
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15 May 2023 6:55 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 6:29 pm » wrote: No one is responsible for your statements but you. 
You repeatedly said a bill couldn't pass the Senate with fewer than 51 votes. 

And why would I retract my correct statement?   We were talking about the Senate, not the Vice President's vote.
we were talking about votes.  You said VOTES, not senators.  There is NO bill that has EVER passed the senate if all senators are present and voting with only 50 votes.  In that situation, the VP is acting as the President of the Senate.  And in that role he or she is an integral member of that body.

if you had said 50 senators, you STILL would not have been correct, given the fact that the VP could always cast a NAY vote.... or refrain from even casting a vote in which case 50 votes would still not be enough.
 
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15 May 2023 6:58 pm
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 6:55 pm » wrote: we were talking about votes.  You said VOTES, not senators.  There is NO bill that has EVER passed the senate if all senators are present and voting with only 50 votes.  In that situation, the VP is acting as the President of the Senate.  And in that role he or she is an integral member of that body.

if you had said 50 senators, you STILL would not have been correct, given the fact that the VP could always cast a NAY vote.... or refrain from even casting a vote in which case 50 votes would still not be enough.
No *******.  We were talking about Senators voting. 
My statement was 100% correct.
 
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15 May 2023 7:05 pm
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Z09 » 15 May 2023, 7:01 pm » wrote: Maineman
You're an idiot
So... you think that 50 votes are all that is needed to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting?  Please show me one roll call vote that supports that assertion.

crack whore ****.
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15 May 2023 7:07 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: No *******.  We were talking about Senators voting. 
My statement was 100% correct.
your statement is false.  you cannot show me one roll call where all senators are present and voting and 50 votes were enough to pass a bill.
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15 May 2023 7:08 pm
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:07 pm » wrote: your statement is false.  you cannot show me one roll call where all senators are present and voting and 50 votes were enough to pass a bill.
No one said anything about "all senators present and voting". 
You added that later because you didn't know how the Senate worked. 
 
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: No *******.  We were talking about Senators voting. 
My statement was 100% correct.
if you had said senators and not votes you still would not have been correct.

what if the VP does not support the passage?  

50 enough then?
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15 May 2023 7:10 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: No one said anything about "all senators present and voting". 
You added that later because you didn't know how the Senate worked.
YOU said it.  YOU said, 

"YES *******, FIFTY VOTES ARE ALL THAT ARE NEEDED TO PASS A BILL IN THE SENATE IF ALL SENATORS ARE PRESENT AND VOTING"

THOSE ARE YOU WORDS. :rofl:  
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15 May 2023 7:14 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: No one said anything about "all senators present and voting". 
You added that later because you didn't know how the Senate worked.
THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS.  "YES *******.  FIFTY VOTES ARE ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO PASS A BILL IN THE SENATE WHEN ALL SENATORS ARE PRESENT AND VOTING."  QUOTE **** UNQOUTE  
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15 May 2023 7:15 pm
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:14 pm » wrote: THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS.  "YES *******.  FIFTY VOTES ARE ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO PASS A BILL IN THE SENATE WHEN ALL SENATORS ARE PRESENT AND VOTING."  QUOTE **** UNQOUTE
And that statement is 100% correct. 
 
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15 May 2023 7:16 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:15 pm » wrote: And that statement is 100% correct.
SHOW ME ONE ROLL CALL THAT SUPPORTS THAT ASSERTION.  ONE
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:15 pm » wrote: And that statement is 100% correct.
AND TELL ME AGAIN... WHAT HAPPENS IF THE VP DOES NOT SUPPORT PASSAGE OF THE MEASURE?

 
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15 May 2023 7:19 pm
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: AND TELL ME AGAIN... WHAT HAPPENS IF THE VP DOES NOT SUPPORT PASSAGE OF THE MEASURE?
Doesn't change how many Senators voted for/against the bill. 
 
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:19 pm » wrote: Doesn't change how many Senators voted for/against the bill.
your statement claimed that fifty votes were all that was needed.

that is as wrong today as it was the day you first wrote it.

it will ALWAYS take 51 VOTES to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting.  51-49 or 51-50.  
EVERY SINGLE **** TIME
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: your statement claimed that fifty votes were all that was needed.

that is as wrong today as it was the day you first wrote it.

it will ALWAYS take 51 VOTES to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting.  51-49 or 51-50.  
EVERY SINGLE **** TIME
50 Senators, *******.
 
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:16 pm » wrote: SHOW ME ONE ROLL CALL THAT SUPPORTS THAT ASSERTION.  ONE
STILL WAITING @golfboy  
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: 50 Senators, *******.
WHAT IF THE VP DECLINES TO VOTE?

50 SENATORS ENOUGH THEN????
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:23 pm » wrote: WHAT IF THE VP DECLINES TO VOTE?

50 SENATORS ENOUGH THEN????
Who cares?   It doesn't change the fact that my statement is correct. 
Nore does it change the fact that you'll always be my bitch.
 
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15 May 2023 7:33 pm
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golfboy » 15 May 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: Who cares?   It doesn't change the fact that my statement is correct. 
Nore does it change the fact that you'll always be my bitch.
if your statement were correct, you would be able to show me ONE roll call where 50 VOTES passed a bill in the US Senate when all senators were present and voting.

JUST

ONE

that is why you will ALWAYS be EVERYONE'S bitch! :rofl:  
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15 May 2023 7:37 pm
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maineman » 15 May 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: if your statement were correct, you would be able to show me ONE roll call where 50 VOTES passed a bill in the US Senate when all senators were present and voting.

JUST

ONE

that is why you will ALWAYS be EVERYONE'S bitch! Image
I never said "all senators present and voting". 
You were wrong on that fact, not me.   And you're still my bitch. 
 
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