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ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:34 pm

And we have more excuses.

Nope. Facts. 

Here is another fact that you aren't going to like. Guns in America is nothing new. They have been around long before Columbine. Like since 1776. No school shootings. No fear of dead children. Then poof! You guys come into the picture. And here we are. Explain that.

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:34 pm

And we have more excuses.

What excuses?

Progressive ideals over the last 3 or 4 decades have created a society where people feel justified in killing large numbers of innocent people because they don't feel that life has treated them fairly.

That's not an excuse, it's the truth.
 
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 May 2023, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:39 pm

What excuses?

Progressive ideals over the last 3 or 4 decades have created a society where people feel justified in killing large numbers of innocent people because they don't feel that life has treated them fairly.

That's not an excuse, it's the truth.

What progressive ideas? Same sex marriage? Fighting racism? Letting people live the lives they want to live?  
 

Vegas » 10 May 2023, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:37 pm

Nope. Facts. 

Here is another fact that you aren't going to like. Guns in America is nothing new. They have been around long before Columbine. Like since 1776. No school shootings. No fear of dead children. Then poof! You guys come into the picture. And here we are. Explain that.

Let's see.  In the Reagan era, The conservative mindset was that mental illness was a stigma and funding was cut for it.  Also in the 80s, the NRA pushed for a new mindset to make gun owners feel like the victims by saying that liberals were gonna grab their guns.  
 

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:46 pm

Let's see.  In the Reagan era, The conservative mindset was that mental illness was a stigma and funding was cut for it.  Also in the 80s, the NRA pushed for a new mindset to make gun owners feel like the victims by saying that liberals were gonna grab their guns.

shilly give up

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:46 pm

Let's see.  In the Reagan era, The conservative mindset was that mental illness was a stigma and funding was cut for it.  Also in the 80s, the NRA pushed for a new mindset to make gun owners feel like the victims by saying that liberals were gonna grab their guns.

Nice deflection. As always. A fact , that you don't like, comes and slaps you across the face and you deflect. 

Guns in America since 1776: No school shootings until 1999. 
Billy the rapist inserts secular lifestyles and political correctness into mainstream society: Poof! just like that, school shootings arise. 

Nahhhhhhh.........has to be a coincidence. It's definitely the guns. 

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:42 pm

What progressive ideas? Same sex marriage? Fighting racism? Letting people live the lives they want to live?

Raising children in an environment that removes the value of accepting failure and disappointment as a HUGE part of life begats a generation of adults that only not can't handle, but can't accept when life doesn't pan out the way they expected.

Expose them to ultra violent movies and video games, sexual deviancy and debauchery, and load them up with psychotropic drugs to keep them calm during the trauma, and you get what we got.

The "do it if it feels good" **** isn't conservative, it's progressive... and we are reaping the "benefits" of decades of that **** today.

Enjoy.


 

Vegas » 10 May 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:50 pm

Nice deflection. As always. A fact , that you don't like, comes and slaps you across the face and you deflect. 

Guns in America since 1776: No school shootings until 1999. 
Billy the rapist inserts secular lifestyles and political correctness into mainstream society: Poof! just like that, school shootings arise. 

Nahhhhhhh.........has to be a coincidence. It's definitely the guns.

Look it up.  You don't need to take my word for it.  Reagan did cut funding for mental illness treatment.  The NRA switched owners in the 80s and became a PAC lobbying for gun sales instead of gun control.  
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 May 2023, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:53 pm

Raising children in an environment that removes the value of accepting failure and disappointment as a HUGE part of life begats a generation of adults that only not can't handle, but can't accept when life doesn't pan out the way they expected.

Expose them to ultra violent movies and video games, sexual deviancy and debauchery, and load them up with psychotropic drugs to keep them calm during the trauma, and you get what we got.

The "do it if it feels good" **** isn't conservative, it's progressive... and we are reaping the "benefits" of decades of that **** today.

Enjoy.

There has always been good parents and bad parents.  Rambo is an all time favorite of conservatives.  And dictating the conditions of other people's happiness is very conservative.  Have you seen the Churches we have in America?  
 

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:56 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:56 pm

Look it up.  You don't need to take my word for it.  Reagan did cut funding for mental illness treatment.  The NRA switched owners in the 80s and became a PAC lobbying for gun sales instead of gun control.

I am not going to look up something that you are deflecting on. Stick to the topic, or get lost. 

Guns in America have been around since 1776: No school shootings. No dead children. Until 1999. Billy the rapist and progressives, 100% at fault. 

 

Vegas » 10 May 2023, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:01 pm

I am not going to look up something that you are deflecting on. Stick to the topic, or get lost. 

Guns in America have been around since 1776: No school shootings. No dead children. Until 1999. Billy the rapist and progressives, 100% at fault.

Did you not advocate for my suicide earlier?  And you have the nerve to say that It's our fault society is in chaos?  I give you reasons that you do not like and can't effectively dispute so you accuse me of deflecting.  You want me silent and that is UnAmerican.  

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:00 pm

There has always been good parents and bad parents.  Rambo is an all time favorite of conservatives.  And dictating the conditions of other people's happiness is very conservative.  Have you seen the Churches we have in America?

How's that lack of morality and humility working out for us today Scott?

Not so good it seems.

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RedheadedStranger » 10 May 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:06 pm

How's that lack of morality and humility working out for us today Scott?

Not so good it seems.

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Morality is not a left/right thing.  It's about compassion and empathy.  That isn't being taught.
 

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:09 pm

Morality is not a left/right thing.  It's about compassion and empathy.  That isn't being taught.

because liberal teachers want to teach about sex and trannies

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:06 pm

Did you not advocate for my suicide earlier?  

Yep. I always encourage child groomers to off themselves. 

And you have the nerve to say that It's our fault society is in chaos? 

Yep. I have no problem wanting the weeds to fade away so society can heal. 

I give you reasons that you do not like and can't effectively dispute so you accuse me of deflecting.  You want me silent and that is UnAmerican.

So, let's reflect. I 'first' brought up a fact that you didn't like. So, your response was to deflect. Then you accuse me of deflecting from your deflection. 

And progressives wonder why it's impossible to take them seriously. 
 

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:09 pm

Morality is not a left/right thing.  It's about compassion and empathy.  That isn't being taught.

Exactly... because the progressives have driven it out of the educational system over the last several decades to push their "inclusive" ideals instead.

I'm sorry, but a drag queen in lingerie teaching 3rd graders how to give a blowjob and morality don't fit in the same box.

We need to quit teaching our kids that "everyone is a winner" too, because that a lie... and it leads to a false sense of reality that is too much for the kid to process once they get into adulthood.  

Our society's entire approach to raising kids is flawed, and it shows.

 
 

RedheadedStranger » 10 May 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:20 pm

Exactly... because the progressives have driven it out of the educational system over the last several decades to push their "inclusive" ideals instead.

I'm sorry, but a drag queen in lingerie teaching 3rd graders how to give a blowjob and morality don't fit in the same box.

We need to quit teaching our kids that "everyone is a winner" too, because that a lie... and it leads to a false sense of reality that is too much for the kid to process once they get into adulthood.  

Our society's entire approach to raising kids is flawed, and it shows.

he doesnt understand.
 

sootedupCyndi » 10 May 2023, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:36 pm

he doesnt understand.

I think he does... he just doesn't want to accept it because it flies in the face of what he has believed for his entire adult life.

ScottMon » 10 May 2023, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 1:23 pm

In 1998, The NRA successfully lobbied Congress to stop the CDC from researching Gun Violence.  This is in stark contrast to NRA of the the 50-60s who were actively lobbying for gun control.   
 

Wasn't that about the same time Clinton administration redefined rape and and some other crimes to hate crimes and a year later turned around and claimed a reduction in violent crime statistics. When they actually didn't physically do a damn thing?

Same time the blue dress escapade took place.

RedheadedStranger » 10 May 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2023, 2:20 pm

Exactly... because the progressives have driven it out of the educational system over the last several decades to push their "inclusive" ideals instead.

I'm sorry, but a drag queen in lingerie teaching 3rd graders how to give a blowjob and morality don't fit in the same box.

 

Those drag time readings you keep talking about is teaching compassion and acceptance, Not blow jobs.  You would know that If you attended one.  DeSantis sent his goons to check it out and  found nothing wrong.