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It must REALLY SUCK that their ENTIRE BS narrative just had it's ARSE handed to it, huh??

US Has Had a “Historic Winter” As “All Western States Have Seen Record Snowfall”

The western US has had an historic winter. From record-breaking cold spells to unprecedented amounts of snow, this has been a memorable cold season – and one that runs counter to the prophecies of the AGW party.

 Starting with the cold – and according to data from the warmth-addicted NOAA – the US has set 7 all-time low temperature records so far this year (through April 24) compared to just one heat record, while 321 monthly lows have fallen in April alone (also through April 24) compared to 66 heat records.

 Highest April 1st snow cover recorded this year

 Regrading snow, in the official books going back to 2001, the largest area ever covered with snow/ice in the western US at the beginning of April so far was 2019’s 1,030,820 sq km, but this year that figure was far exceeded, with satellite imagery showing that more than 1,149-960 sq km of the West was covered with snow and ice on 1 April.

 By comparison, the average snowpack in the western US at the end of March is 242,000 square miles.

 According to NSIDC data, snowpack this season was well above the April 1 average in all western states. In the table below, South Dakota, Nebraska and Arizona lead the way with 350% of the average, followed closely by Nevada:

 
                                                                         Source: NSIDC


                   All western US states have seen above-average snowfall; in fact, all have set records:

 Meanwhile across the pond, the official UK low of -7.4°C was recorded on April 27 in Loch Glascarnoch, Scotland. This broke the previous low of -6.1°C recorded in 1956 in Glenlivet. It’s been quiet for Britain’s climate alarmists, as record cold blanketed the country.

 
 

Stop falling prey reciting the faked argument? Oh wait, you are a predatory mind getting people to turn off their brain cradle to grave and become an organic data recorder of saving maybes.

Note to self....

LWNJs only care about "existential climate change" when it fulfills their PREDETERMINED narrative that we are all going to burn up. Its NEVER when their entire narrative is PROVEN to be total **** do they RUN.

After all, we can't be having ANY other FACTS that dispute the FAILED THEORY of AGW now can we??

Global warming is not a topic that gets my blood pressure going. All I know is that I loved getting all of the snow, lower temps, rain, and overcast days from early Dec. to late april. Typically in my neck of the woods.. a day in Feb is sunny, high of 52 and low of 35. Pretty tame stuff but this year was different and that's ok.

impartialobserver » 11 May 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 12:12 pm

Global warming is not a topic that gets my blood pressure going. All I know is that I loved getting all of the snow, lower temps, rain, and overcast days from early Dec. to late april. Typically in my neck of the woods.. a day in Feb is sunny, high of 52 and low of 35. Pretty tame stuff but this year was different and that's ok.

We actually had a mild winter up here. For our winters... but it does run in cycles... I watched the midwest in horror... and praised the lord it wasn't us!
I remember the winter a friend came over to shovel the roof.. and his big fluffy dog- climbed  up on the snow on my deck- and was on the roof! Hey Bill- your dog Jake is on the roof. Hilarious...    
 

sootedupCyndi » 11 May 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 1:16 pm

We actually had a mild winter up here. For our winters... but it does run in cycles... I watched the midwest in horror... and praised the lord it wasn't us!
I remember the winter a friend came over to shovel the roof.. and his big fluffy dog- climbed  up on the snow on my deck- and was on the roof! Hey Bill- your dog Jake is on the roof. Hilarious...  

That's cool. They got 800 inches of snow at Lake Tahoe this winter. The real silver lining is that it has not warmed up too quickly. All of the snow melt from tahoe ends up in the Truckee which then goes through Reno. 

impartialobserver » 11 May 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 1:32 pm

That's cool. They got 800 inches of snow at Lake Tahoe this winter. The real silver lining is that it has not warmed up too quickly. All of the snow melt from tahoe ends up in the Truckee which then goes through Reno.

Lake Mead is expected to exceed full pool later this summer and no "drought" is in existence for California. So you won't hear that caterwauling this summer. Funny how all this "Climate change" never seems to materialize. Latest GLOBAL TEMPERATURE shows a .19 deg C "warmer" than the average temperature over the past 150 years. Or whatever these "global warmers" CLAIM is supposed to be "the normal temperature" happens to be., I am SURE that it's soon to be lowered since that's the ONLY WAY they can get "existential climate change' to appear.

Real-time Global Temperature

 (updated every 1-2 minutes)

57.55°F / 14.19°C

Deviation: 0.35°F / 0.19°C

 Stations processed last hour: 45648Last station processed: Latrobe, United StatesFor source/info see:https://temperature.global

 
 

Beekeeper » 11 May 2023, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:59 pm

Lake Mead is expected to exceed full pool later this summer and no "drought" is in existence for California. So you won't hear that caterwauling this summer. Funny how all this "Climate change" never seems to materialize. Latest GLOBAL TEMPERATURE shows a .19 deg C "warmer" than the average temperature over the past 150 years. Or whatever these "global warmers" CLAIM is supposed to be "the normal temperature" happens to be., I am SURE that it's soon to be lowered since that's the ONLY WAY they can get "existential climate change' to appear.

Lake Mead full?! I cannot believe that prediction.
Not until I see it. That's a LOT of water over and above the regular flow of the dam.

DeezerShoove » 11 May 2023, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 4:44 pm

Lake Mead full?! I cannot believe that prediction.
Not until I see it. That's a LOT of water over and above the regular flow of the dam.

I stand corrected, it will be FILLING instead of dropping. It's improvement over last year where it was at 1040 ft in July.Instead of being at the 183 ft below full pool today.

The Bureau of Reclamation has predicted three possible outcomes for Lake Mead's water levels this summer.Lake Mead's water levels currently stand at 1,050.71 feet as of May 8.

 According to a Maximum Probable Inflow 24 month report released in April 2023, Lake Mead's water levels could rise to 1,060.30 feet by the end of July 2023. This, in other words, is a best-case scenario for the drought-stricken reservoir.

 The Bureau has also released "most probable" inflow predictions, which are more likely, but still see a rise to 1,057.68 feet by the end of July 2023.A stock photo shows Lake Mead and its bathtub rings. The bathtub rings represent where the water used to be. bloodua/Getty
If correct, these numbers will present a completely different situation to last year. By the end of July 2022, Lake Mead was seeing some of its lowest water levels ever. The lake reached a low point of around 1,040 feet. This was due to the extremely dry conditions in the Western U.S. because of the megadrought gripping the region.

 In the worst-case scenario, Lake Mead's water levels will be at around 1,050 feet at the end of July 2023.

https://www.newsweek.com/summer-water-l ... ll-1799117

Beekeeper » 11 May 2023, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:59 pm

Lake Mead is expected to exceed full pool later this summer and no "drought" is in existence for California. So you won't hear that caterwauling this summer. Funny how all this "Climate change" never seems to materialize. Latest GLOBAL TEMPERATURE shows a .19 deg C "warmer" than the average temperature over the past 150 years. Or whatever these "global warmers" CLAIM is supposed to be "the normal temperature" happens to be., I am SURE that it's soon to be lowered since that's the ONLY WAY they can get "existential climate change' to appear.

the drainage basin in and around Lake Mead is not what saw the major snowfall this year. That honor went to the Sierras near Lake Tahoe and the Eastern Sierras near Yosemite. Still, most of CA is out of the drought or close to it. The NE corner did not see the major league snowfall but that is no surprise. 

impartialobserver » 11 May 2023, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 5:15 pm

the drainage basin in and around Lake Mead is not what saw the major snowfall this year. That honor went to the Sierras near Lake Tahoe and the Eastern Sierras near Yosemite. Still, most of CA is out of the drought or close to it. The NE corner did not see the major league snowfall but that is no surprise.

And that is going to reduce the demand on Lake Mead and allow it to fill above it's current level.

Beekeeper » 11 May 2023, 6:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 6:32 pm

And that is going to reduce the demand on Lake Mead and allow it to fill above it's current level.

Not really. The consumers of Lake Mead's surface water are southern utah, central AZ, and the inland empire of Southern California. Those areas did not see the major snowfall this year. So yes, it is filling but this problem will come back next year. It is beyond the scope of the forum but the real issue is the allocations and the complex web of water rights. In short, in most years.. the amount allocated exceeds what recharges the lake.