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In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Why?  because after the fight...

1)  WE NOW KNOW that the Russian military is a JOKE...
2)  NATO knows it's a JOKE, 
3)  The WORLD knows it's a JOKE...

and... We would be CRAZY to:

4)  NOT continue to provide the means for Ukraine to push Russia COMPLETELY OUT of their territory !
5)  NOT then offer Ukraine NATO membership !
6)  NOT encourage other Russian satellite states to LEAVE the Russian "Confederation" !  and
7)  NOT ENCOURAGE the FURTHER dis-integration of Russia, and for OTHER current Russian states (i.e. Ballarus, Georgia, Chechia, and others) to pursue independence !

America's, and the Wests, security is, and always will be, INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL to the strength of a Socialist Russia !
 

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:00 pm

In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Why?  because after the fight...

1)  WE NOW KNOW that the Russian military is a JOKE...
2)  NATO knows it's a JOKE, 
3)  The WORLD knows it's a JOKE...

and... We would be CRAZY to:

4)  NOT continue to provide the means for Ukraine to push Russia COMPLETELY OUT of their territory !
5)  NOT then offer Ukraine NATO membership !
6)  NOT encourage other Russian satellite states to LEAVE the Russian "Confederation" !  and
7)  NOT ENCOURAGE the FURTHER dis-integration of Russia, and for OTHER current Russian states (i.e. Ballarus, Georgia, Chechia, and others) to pursue independence !

America's, and the Wests, security is, and always will be, INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL to the strength of a Socialist Russia !

Some of this stuff is wacky.
Like #6 and #7 seem about the same.
Not to mention they are signaling that you are in favor of another war right after the Ukraine dust up is over.

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:00 pm

In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Is that what you say when a *** gets a free hamburger, dickless retard? It's only chickenfeed?

When the hand is in YOUR pocket, you screech like the bitch your mama raised. But to kill more children in Ukraine, it's your hand in MY pocket, statist ***. 

You wanna help Ukraine, chickenhawk? Get your *** *** over there, instead of cadging MY nation's money, you communist ***. 
 

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:00 pm

In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Why?  because after the fight...

1)  WE NOW KNOW that the Russian military is a JOKE...
2)  NATO knows it's a JOKE, 
3)  The WORLD knows it's a JOKE...

and... We would be CRAZY to:

4)  NOT continue to provide the means for Ukraine to push Russia COMPLETELY OUT of their territory !
5)  NOT then offer Ukraine NATO membership !
6)  NOT encourage other Russian satellite states to LEAVE the Russian "Confederation" !  and
7)  NOT ENCOURAGE the FURTHER dis-integration of Russia, and for OTHER current Russian states (i.e. Ballarus, Georgia, Chechia, and others) to pursue independence !

America's, and the Wests, security is, and always will be, INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL to the strength of a Socialist Russia !

if Russia is such a joke, why you worried about them? toss em aside and fixate on China.

DeezerShoove » 11 May 2023, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 10:37 pm

Some of this stuff is wacky.
Like #6 and #7 seem about the same.
Not to mention they are signaling that you are in favor of another war right after the Ukraine dust up is over.

The point was that there are many Satellite States within the Russian Confederation... SOME that could be a good FIT into NATO ( Bellarus, Georgia and others), and IF they want their independence... supporting them IMMEDIATELY AFTER an embarrassing defeat for Russia ( like I'm expecting this one to become soon)... Would be EXACTLY the BEST time for THEM to ACT !  ...with  the LEAST chance of another war.

I'm not sure if you get it or NOT... but, UNLESS Russia is DEFEATED by someone else... WE ARE going to have fight a war with them (at some point)... as long as they are a Totalitarian Dictatorship, that see US as their MORTAL enemy, THAT will be true... but, AFTER they get TROUNCED by Ukraine... I don't think they'll have ANY inclination or desire to fight ANOTHER nation who wants independence, so soon... and the WEAKER Russia gets, the BETTER it will be for the WORLD... and for US !

AND, if it can be done by Nations like Ukraine... who ONLY want to live as an Independent nation of their own, BUT were ATTACKED by Russia... we will win a GREAT VICTORY for our future security, without America BLOOD, and at a MINIMAL cost !
 

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:00 pm

In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Why?  because after the fight...

1)  WE NOW KNOW that the Russian military is a JOKE...
2)  NATO knows it's a JOKE, 
3)  The WORLD knows it's a JOKE...

and... We would be CRAZY to:

4)  NOT continue to provide the means for Ukraine to push Russia COMPLETELY OUT of their territory !
5)  NOT then offer Ukraine NATO membership !
6)  NOT encourage other Russian satellite states to LEAVE the Russian "Confederation" !  and
7)  NOT ENCOURAGE the FURTHER dis-integration of Russia, and for OTHER current Russian states (i.e. Ballarus, Georgia, Chechia, and others) to pursue independence !

America's, and the Wests, security is, and always will be, INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL to the strength of a Socialist Russia !
 

Rational minds never comprehend compounding results.

Cannonpointer » 11 May 2023, 10:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 10:47 pm

Is that what you say when a *** gets a free hamburger, dickless retard? It's only chickenfeed?

When the hand is in YOUR pocket, you screech like the bitch your mama raised. But to kill more children in Ukraine, it's your hand in MY pocket, statist ***. 

You wanna help Ukraine, chickenhawk? Get your *** *** over there, instead of cadging MY nation's money, you communist ***.

HA!!  You don't get it... Ukraine WANTS their Independence... WHEN Russia invaded, THEY FOUGHT BACK !!  ...and IF THEY WIN, THAT is good for the Free World, Good for America, and BAD for Russia, China, and Iran !!

THAT would be a WIN, WIN, and WIN !!

and COSTS America NO American lives... and only a few Billion $$$...

THINK HARD ****... it will sink in EVENTUALLY !

$170 BILLION is chicken feed....what a dumb ****.

Its the yearly combined military spending of:

-Russia
-Germany
-France

And Russia is grinding NAZI-KRAINE into turd filled coffin meat

ConservativeWave » 12 May 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:10 pm

HA!!  You don't get it... Ukraine WANTS their Independence... WHEN Russia invaded, THEY FOUGHT BACK !!  ...and IF THEY WIN, THAT is good for the Free World, Good for America, and BAD for Russia, China, and Iran !!

THAT would be a WIN, WIN, and WIN !!

and COSTS America NO American lives... and only a few Billion $$$...

THINK HARD ****... it will sink in EVENTUALLY !

Ukraine is a WASH DC SLAVE STATE since 2014.

Russia beat Ukraine 9 mos ago.  Russia is fightin NATO now you **** old retard.

Ukraine exists only and solely as....WASH DC PROXY COFFIN ***    
 

Sumela » 12 May 2023, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:17 pm

Ukraine is a WASH DC SLAVE STATE since 2014.

Russia beat Ukraine 9 mos ago.  Russia is fightin NATO now you **** old retard.

Ukraine exists only and solely as....WASH DC PROXY COFFIN *** :rofl:   :rofl:  
 

Intellectual minds have no sole reference point beyond common beliefs ignoring how evolving works in plain sight pretending contextual souls evolve on a higher plane than ancestors occupying time now.

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2023, 2:00 pm

In the end... the amount of money the U.S. has spent giving Ukraine the ability to FIGHT for their OWN freedom... is CHICKEN-FEED !

Why?  because after the fight...

1)  WE NOW KNOW that the Russian military is a JOKE...
2)  NATO knows it's a JOKE, 
3)  The WORLD knows it's a JOKE...

and... We would be CRAZY to:

4)  NOT continue to provide the means for Ukraine to push Russia COMPLETELY OUT of their territory !
5)  NOT then offer Ukraine NATO membership !
6)  NOT encourage other Russian satellite states to LEAVE the Russian "Confederation" !  and
7)  NOT ENCOURAGE the FURTHER dis-integration of Russia, and for OTHER current Russian states (i.e. Ballarus, Georgia, Chechia, and others) to pursue independence !

America's, and the Wests, security is, and always will be, INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL to the strength of a Socialist Russia !

Belarus is the only Russian satellite state left.
Georgia is independent.
Chechia is not a state, it is a par of the Russian Federation.
Of course the US should support Ukraine independence.
Considering the size and abilitioes of China, the US can no longer dominate the rest of the planet with no allies. The US needs he EU and the UK as allies.
The present Russian government does not even benefit most of the people of Russia

Add to this....only 10% of Russia's military is in Ukraine.

Most of the fighting is being done by Wagner and the Donbas militias/military

Of the 400,000 reservists called up only 100,000 are in Ukraine fighting.

The other 300,000 reservists PLUS the regular RF army of about 1 million are just waiting

for the NATO LGBTQ Army to make a terrible mistake.

           

Xavier_Onassis » 12 May 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:27 pm

Belarus is the only Russian satellite state left.
Georgia is independent.
Chechia is not a state, it is a par of the Russian Federation.
Of course the US should support Ukraine independence.
Considering the size and abilitioes of China, the US can no longer dominate the rest of the planet with no allies. The US needs he EU and the UK as allies.
The present Russian government does not even benefit most of the people of Russia

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Sumela » 12 May 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:32 pm

Add to this....only 10% of Russia's military is in Ukraine.

Most of the fighting is being done by Wagner and the Donbas militias/military

Of the 400,000 reservists called up only 100,000 are in Ukraine fighting.

The other 300,000 reservists PLUS the regular RF army of about 1 million are just waiting

for the NATO LGBTQ Army to make a terrible mistake.

:rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

ever here about sustaining the supply lines for those doing the battles? You really have no concept of how actions and reactions balance as a whole food chain.

Your ability to think is rationed possibilities there is no such thing as eternally separated now and your chromosome brain navigates it 24/7 as uniquely displaced.

ConservativeWave » 12 May 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:10 pm

HA!!  You don't get it... Ukraine WANTS their Independence...

YOU don't get it, welfare breath.

Spend YOUR money on Ukraine - leave MINE and my COUNTRY'S for MY people, you stupid piece of **** welfare queen.

Our treasury is for OUR people - not for Ukrainians, you retarded tool of joe biden and the MIC.

THINK HARD ****...

ConservativeWave » 12 May 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:01 pm

The point was that there are many Satellite States within the Russian Confederation... SOME that could be a good FIT into NATO ( Bellarus, Georgia and others), and IF they want their independence... supporting them IMMEDIATELY AFTER an embarrassing defeat for Russia ( like I'm expecting this one to become soon)... Would be EXACTLY the BEST time for THEM to ACT !  ...with  the LEAST chance of another war.

I'm not sure if you get it or NOT... but, UNLESS Russia is DEFEATED by someone else... WE ARE going to have fight a war with them (at some point)... as long as they are a Totalitarian Dictatorship, that see US as their MORTAL enemy, THAT will be true... but, AFTER they get TROUNCED by Ukraine... I don't think they'll have ANY inclination or desire to fight ANOTHER nation who wants independence, so soon... and the WEAKER Russia gets, the BETTER it will be for the WORLD... and for US !

AND, if it can be done by Nations like Ukraine... who ONLY want to live as an Independent nation of their own, BUT were ATTACKED by Russia... we will win a GREAT VICTORY for our future security, without America BLOOD, and at a MINIMAL cost !

If they can't beat a grassy field full of ill-trained farmers, why are you so worried about it?

Blackrock now owns THIRTY PERCENT of West Ukraine.

Another WASH DC neoliberal investment banker war.

You cucks are so funny!!         
 

Sumela » 12 May 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:16 pm

$170 BILLION is chicken feed....what a dumb ****.

Its the yearly combined military spending of:

-Russia
-Germany
-France

And Russia is grinding NAZI-KRAINE into turd filled coffin meat

Russia and China are TWO birds of a feather... THEY are BOTH totalitarian dictatorships, who want to DOMINATE the WORLD... and WE (America) are their MORTAL enemy !!  We WILL have to fight them... it's ONLY a matter of WHEN !   So... when we do get into a FACE to FACE war with them, it would cost 1000's of TIMES as much money, probably result in World War 3, and be a NUCLEAR war at that... that would kill MILLIONS of people, on BOTH sides, in the process !!

As it is, THIS was supposed to be a "Special Military Operation", that Russia was SUPPOSED to win easily... BUT Instead... THEY are NOW: 1) EMBARRASSED, 2) BATTERED, 3) DEPLETED, and 4) DOUBTING THEMSELVES.... because THEY GOT SPANKED !!  ...SPANKED by Ukraine !! ...with the HELP of the west, but NEVER were western forces actually involved !

WHAT'S MORE... what will happen from here on out, will AGAIN be because of the HEART, and BLOOD, and COURAGE of WHATEVER Countries want to FIGHT for their freedom... and NOT America... and NO American lives need be lost.  BUT... Russia should ALSO KNOW that...  if they DO ever attack us... in FACE to FACE war... WE are a HELL of a lot more CAPABLE, and BAD ***, than the UKRAINIAN Army... and IT WOULD BE... their DEATH warrant !

IF the Russian people are smart... THEY will assassinate Putin, TAKE over power, and CONTINUE the path toward Democracy that THEY, Poland, Romania, and Ukraine started 30 years ago... and GIVE UP the "Russian Empire"... because IT is ALREADY DEAD !!

YOU would have to be a TOTAL DUMB **** to not KNOW it !!

ConservativeWave » 12 May 2023, 4:02 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 4:02 pm

Russia and China are TWO birds of a feather... THEY are BOTH totalitarian dictatorships, who want to DOMINATE the WORLD... and WE (America) are their MORTAL enemy !!  We WILL have to fight them... it's ONLY a matter of WHEN !   So... when we do get into a FACE to FACE war with them, it would cost 1000's of TIMES as much money, probably result in World War 3, and be a NUCLEAR war at that... that would kill MILLIONS of people, on BOTH sides, in the process !!

As it is, THIS was supposed to be a "Special Military Operation", that Russia was SUPPOSED to win easily... BUT Instead... THEY are NOW: 1) EMBARRASSED, 2) BATTERED, 3) DEPLETED, and 4) DOUBTING THEMSELVES.... because THEY GOT SPANKED !!  ...SPANKED by Ukraine !! ...with the HELP of the west, but NEVER were western forces actually involved !

WHAT'S MORE... what will happen from here on out, will AGAIN be because of the HEART, and BLOOD, and COURAGE of WHATEVER Countries want to FIGHT for their freedom... and NOT America... and NO American lives need be lost.  BUT... Russia should ALSO KNOW that...  if they DO ever attack us... in FACE to FACE war... WE are a HELL of a lot more CAPABLE, and BAD ***, than the UKRAINIAN Army... and IT WOULD BE... their DEATH warrant !

IF the Russian people are smart... THEY will assassinate Putin, TAKE over power, and CONTINUE the path toward Democracy that THEY, Poland, Romania, and Ukraine started 30 years ago... and GIVE UP the "Russian Empire"... because IT is ALREADY DEAD !!

YOU would have to be a TOTAL DUMB **** to not KNOW it !!

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ConservativeWave » 12 May 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2023, 1:01 pm

The point was that there are many Satellite States within the Russian Confederation... SOME that could be a good FIT into NATO ( Bellarus, Georgia and others), and IF they want their independence... supporting them IMMEDIATELY AFTER an embarrassing defeat for Russia ( like I'm expecting this one to become soon)... Would be EXACTLY the BEST time for THEM to ACT !  ...with  the LEAST chance of another war.

I'm not sure if you get it or NOT... but, UNLESS Russia is DEFEATED by someone else... WE ARE going to have fight a war with them (at some point)... as long as they are a Totalitarian Dictatorship, that see US as their MORTAL enemy, THAT will be true... but, AFTER they get TROUNCED by Ukraine... I don't think they'll have ANY inclination or desire to fight ANOTHER nation who wants independence, so soon... and the WEAKER Russia gets, the BETTER it will be for the WORLD... and for US !

AND, if it can be done by Nations like Ukraine... who ONLY want to live as an Independent nation of their own, BUT were ATTACKED by Russia... we will win a GREAT VICTORY for our future security, without America BLOOD, and at a MINIMAL cost !

**** NATO and your genocidal, globalist tranny agenda.

Death to the New World Order