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150-year-old stained-glass window reveals Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race (msn.com)


A nearly 150-year-old stained-glass church window that depicts a dark-skinned Jesus Christ interacting with women in New Testament scenes has stirred up questions about race, Rhode Island’s role in the slave trade and the place of women in 19th century New England society.The window installed at the long-closed St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Warren in 1878 is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color that one expert has seen.“This window is unique and highly unusual,” said Virginia Raguin, a professor of humanities emerita at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and an expert on the history of stained-glass art. “I have never seen this iconography for that time.”The 12-foot tall, 5-foot wide window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ. One shows Christ in conversation with Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke. The other shows Christ speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well from the Gospel of John.
The window made by the Henry E. Sharp studio in New York had largely been forgotten until a few years ago when Hadley Arnold and her family bought the 4,000-square-foot (371-square-meter) Greek Revival church building, which opened in 1830 and closed in 2010, to convert into their home.
The window is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color.
 Victoria Johnson, a retired educator who was the first Black woman named principal of a Rhode Island high school, thinks the figures in the glass are most certainly Black. I knew Jesus was black all along."
 
  
 

Punch » 14 May 2023, 10:51 pm » wrote: ↑

14 May 2023, 10:51 pm

Is there a problem? Can't bring yourself to worship a black man, can you? That's on you. Me, I'm an atheist. I couldn't care less.

150-year-old stained-glass window reveals Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race (msn.com)

A nearly 150-year-old stained-glass church window that depicts a dark-skinned Jesus Christ interacting with women in New Testament scenes has stirred up questions about race, Rhode Island’s role in the slave trade and the place of women in 19th century New England society.The window installed at the long-closed St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Warren in 1878 is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color that one expert has seen.“This window is unique and highly unusual,” said Virginia Raguin, a professor of humanities emerita at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and an expert on the history of stained-glass art. “I have never seen this iconography for that time.”The 12-foot tall, 5-foot wide window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ. One shows Christ in conversation with Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke. The other shows Christ speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well from the Gospel of John.
The window made by the Henry E. Sharp studio in New York had largely been forgotten until a few years ago when Hadley Arnold and her family bought the 4,000-square-foot (371-square-meter) Greek Revival church building, which opened in 1830 and closed in 2010, to convert into their home.
The window is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color.
 Victoria Johnson, a retired educator who was the first Black woman named principal of a Rhode Island high school, thinks the figures in the glass are most certainly Black. I knew Jesus was black all along."

Ummmm... 150 years ago, is ONLY about 1850 years AFTER Jesus actually walked the earth... and believing that the people 150 years ago knew ANYTHING about the race of Jesus... is JUST about as smart as thinking that "Global Warming" happened over the last 200 years... when geological evidence PROVES that the EARTH has been warming for the last 22,000 YEARS !!

Is there supposed to be a problem?

I guess it's of interest to those who are into stained glass.
 

Punch » 14 May 2023, 10:51 pm » wrote: ↑

14 May 2023, 10:51 pm

Is there a problem? Can't bring yourself to worship a black man, can you? That's on you. Me, I'm an atheist. I couldn't care less.

150-year-old stained-glass window reveals Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race (msn.com)

A nearly 150-year-old stained-glass church window that depicts a dark-skinned Jesus Christ interacting with women in New Testament scenes has stirred up questions about race, Rhode Island’s role in the slave trade and the place of women in 19th century New England society.The window installed at the long-closed St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Warren in 1878 is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color that one expert has seen.“This window is unique and highly unusual,” said Virginia Raguin, a professor of humanities emerita at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and an expert on the history of stained-glass art. “I have never seen this iconography for that time.”The 12-foot tall, 5-foot wide window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ. One shows Christ in conversation with Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke. The other shows Christ speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well from the Gospel of John.
The window made by the Henry E. Sharp studio in New York had largely been forgotten until a few years ago when Hadley Arnold and her family bought the 4,000-square-foot (371-square-meter) Greek Revival church building, which opened in 1830 and closed in 2010, to convert into their home.
The window is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color.
 Victoria Johnson, a retired educator who was the first Black woman named principal of a Rhode Island high school, thinks the figures in the glass are most certainly Black. I knew Jesus was black all along."

Me and a guy had a conversation about this long ago here...I mentioned that it could be that Jesus had darker skin considering the region he lived in. 

This could really put the leftist elities in a bind. A black man with beautiful values, (no relation to Al Sharpton of course). Actually if Jesus is of darker skin the odds are he would have been brown, not black. But the only thing that really matters is that he is Jesus.

There are some in DC that should be concerned...

"Ninth Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness"

Oh man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDKivqFOgA

 
 

roadkill » 15 May 2023, 4:04 am » wrote: ↑

15 May 2023, 4:04 am

Me and a guy had a conversation about this long ago here...I mentioned that it could be that Jesus had darker skin considering the region he lived in. 

This could really put the leftist elities in a bind. A black man with beautiful values, (no relation to Al Sharpton of course). Actually if Jesus was of darker skin the odds are he would have been brown, not black. But the only thing that really matters is that he is Jesus.

There are some in DC that should be concerned...

"Ninth Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness"

Oh man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDKivqFOgA

My guess is. That's the only color glass they could get their hands on.

But you may be right too. He probably did have darker skin. And i have seen pics of the possibility that he had very dark colored hair.. not the fair skinned - movie type.
 

sootedupCyndi » 15 May 2023, 4:12 am » wrote: ↑

15 May 2023, 4:12 am

My guess is. That's the only color glass they could get their hands on.

But you may be right too. He probably did have darker skin. And i have seen pics of the possibility that he had very dark colored hair.. not the fair skinned - movie type.

Good point...but at the end of the day all that matters is that he is Jesus.
 

If Jesus was real he would look like Osama Bin Laden.
Except Osama knew how to operate an AK 47.

"For centuries, the most common image of Jesus Christ, at least in Western cultures, has been that of a bearded, fair-skinned man with long, wavy, light brown or blond hair and (often) blue eyes. But the Bible doesn’t describe Jesus physically, and all the evidence we do have indicates he probably looked very different from how he has long been portrayed."