Debt Ceiling? We don't need no debt ceiling

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POM
17 May 2023 3:45 pm
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Senate Democrats are asking Biden to stop negotiating with Republicans on a debt ceiling solution and take a route that would get rid of the problem forever

Democrats always find a solution to the problems.

Pressure is building on President Joe Biden to bypass Congress and solve the debt ceiling crisis on his own using the constitution.
  • Senate Democrats are asking Biden to prepare to use the 14th amendment to solve the debt ceiling crisis.
  • The 14th amendment would allow Biden to bypass Congress and declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-democ ... 57123.html
 
 
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ConsRule
17 May 2023 3:58 pm
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POM » 17 May 2023, 3:45 pm » wrote: Senate Democrats are asking Biden to stop negotiating with Republicans on a debt ceiling solution and take a route that would get rid of the problem forever

Democrats always find a solution to the problems.

Pressure is building on President Joe Biden to bypass Congress and solve the debt ceiling crisis on his own using the constitution.
  • Senate Democrats are asking Biden to prepare to use the 14th amendment to solve the debt ceiling crisis.
  • The 14th amendment would allow Biden to bypass Congress and declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-democ ... 57123.html
It most certainly DOES NOT.  The President NEVER has the authority to declare ANYTHING unconstitutional.  That is a matter for the courts. 

There is also significant dispute over the Presidents authority to raise the debt ceiling as that is, at the basic level, authorizing additional spending...and he does not have that Constitutional authority.

Amendment XIV

Section 1.All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2.Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state. 

Section 3.No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4.The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5.The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

 
 
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ConsRule
17 May 2023 4:02 pm
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Remember, the current dispute/negotiation is NOT about the validity of existing debt, it is about the ability to incur additional debt.
 
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Taipan
17 May 2023 4:08 pm
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POM » 17 May 2023, 3:45 pm » wrote: Senate Democrats are asking Biden to stop negotiating with Republicans on a debt ceiling solution and take a route that would get rid of the problem forever

Democrats always find a solution to the problems.

Pressure is building on President Joe Biden to bypass Congress and solve the debt ceiling crisis on his own using the constitution.
  • Senate Democrats are asking Biden to prepare to use the 14th amendment to solve the debt ceiling crisis.
  • The 14th amendment would allow Biden to bypass Congress and declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-democ ... 57123.html

31.7 Trillion National Debt.  Getting worse every day.   No end in sight.
What is the Dem solution?          "Spend more money" !!
This is 1 reason why I have no respect for the Dems.

Everyone....at all levels.....should learn to live within their means.
I am backing McCarthy on this one.
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ConsRule
17 May 2023 4:08 pm
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One more thing, the current debt ceiling was set by legislation passed by both Houses and signed by a President. Stated differently, it is a limit set by law. Show me where, in the US Constitution, the President has the authority to unilaterally change ANY existing law.
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